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***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

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I keep saying this, but I'll say it again. People need to take a step back, and take a deep breath. This paranoia is not healthy.

Regardless of what features you'll be sorely missing, let's be honest, if you're posting in this thread, you'll probably be buying the phone.
And when we do buy the phone, we'll all be happy. Even if the lower end of the rumored specs are correct, it would be the best device on the market, both in terms of hardware and software.
Keeping that in mind, let's all just relax, share interesting tidbits when we find them, and in general not go into a frenzy over small details.
I'm going to sleep, y'all :rolleyes:.

Edit: Just read over this again. Hate to sound so elitist, but seriously people. The phone will be good, just accept it :D
 
cereal killer said:
No idea but I don't buy any of it Steven :)

Too many people are contradicting one another. I'll stick with 1.5GHZ for the time being until I'm convinced otherwise.

Like I said tomorow some other blog will write an article with their "reliable source" telling them it's a Qualcomm.
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Wait is not a Qualcomm???? :P Thank you Steve for the work you have been doing.
 
Steven58 said:
Someone explain to me why if my source played with a 1.5 ghz phone, we are now believing it to be 1.2 ghz?
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Don't you know, latest rumors always win.

:D

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Mate01 said:
Good insight, but surely the Nexus will be a huge seller for Verizon!
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I know people won't like this but I think it needs to be said.


If the phone even makes it to Verizon. Remember the Nexus 1 that was supposed to hit the big red and never did.

Nexus One Phone - Choose a phone

I hope that the marketing issues don't cause any trouble. My INC broke and now i'm back to a clam shell.
 
Does it really matter if it's 1.2ghz or 1.5ghz?

The OMAP 4460 was designed to run at 1.5ghz. Therefore, it's more than capable of running at that speed.

If the Nexus came underclocked, I'd simply overclock it if it mattered that much to me. If it really is a 4460, then it'd be stable at 1.5. We could probably push that thing to 2.0ghz+ if we really wanted to.



The only thing that slightly bugs me is the outdated GPU. Any known way of improving graphics performance in the modding community?

EDIT: It seems like the iPhone 4 had the PowerVR SGX535, but gaming was still heavily marketed by Apple, and my experience with games on the iP4 has been nothing but positive. Therefore, am I naive to assume that the optimization with ICS will matter a hell of a lot more than a bigger peni--errr I mean better GPU?
 
Perhaps as we're sifting thru all of this material, we could make health recommendations ......I will go first. IF, you have NOT had a chance to read EVERYTHING you've missed all day......it is NOT a good idea to sit on the john as you re-cap. I fear I am permanently embossed with my porcelain throne. Good night children.
 
nj02vette said:
I'm OK with that, because the vanilla OS, faster updates and unlocked bootloader, coupled with ICS on Verizon makes this a phone worth looking at.
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That sounds about perfect to me!

My neighbor has a brand new Sprint SGS2. Drool worthy KILLER phone except that Sprint's network sucks in an area where their map shows perfect 3G & 4G.

My OG Droid smokes his KILLER phone in anything requiring mobile connectivity.

To be fair, another neighbor has the AT&T SGS2 and has great network connectivity. I just refuse to move to AT&T and loose my unlimited data plan on VZW.
 
iSyntac said:
Siri's definitely got potential. Although I'd probably only use it for the entertainment factor. Saw this pic today. Absolutely cracked me up. =P

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Yes hilarious, but the person who programmed this should look at some ink blots.
 
TheRoosevelt said:
I keep saying this, but I'll say it again. People need to take a step back, and take a deep breath. This paranoia is not healthy.

Regardless of what features you'll be sorely missing, let's be honest, if you're posting in this thread, you'll probably be buying the phone.
And when we do buy the phone, we'll all be happy. Even if the lower end of the rumored specs are correct, it would be the best device on the market, both in terms of hardware and software.
Keeping that in mind, let's all just relax, share interesting tidbits when we find them, and in general not go into a frenzy over small details.
I'm going to sleep, y'all :rolleyes:.

Edit: Just read over this again. Hate to sound so elitist, but seriously people. The phone will be good, just accept it :D
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With that being said, and the device does come in at the lower end of the rumor scale, what would your next choice in phone be?
 
Drew66 said:
I hope you are right!
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Beyond hope or common sense comes marketing sense.

By this summer, the heat was on over clock vs battery vs brand performance.

Only a marketing ostrich would have chosen 1.2 GHz to follow the pack.

Half a brain would choose the higher clock and bank on the superior and sleek software stack.

Presuming that Team Android at Google is way, ever so way, smarter than me, I submit that the only choice would be 1.5 GHz, for your pleasure.
 
nj02vette said:
Actually, I'm not sure the nexus line ever had the best hardware, or was very quickly eclipsed.

The point of the Nexus line is that it's a hardware point for Google to design thier new OS version. That's pretty much it. Original Nexus didn't have revolutionary specs, the Nexus S didn't, and neither will the Prime.

I'm OK with that, because the vanilla OS, faster updates and unlocked bootloader, coupled with ICS on Verizon makes this a phone worth looking at.
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Fair enough, I just thought that was the idea to show everyone what android could do. Not just the OS but the OS with hardware.
 
WalmartSecurity said:
The only thing that slightly bugs me is the outdated GPU. Any known way of improving graphics performance in the modding community?

EDIT: It seems like the iPhone 4 had the PowerVR SGX535, but gaming was still heavily marketed by Apple, and my experience with games on the iP4 has been nothing but positive. Therefore, am I naive to assume that the optimization with ICS will matter a hell of a lot more than a bigger peni--errr I mean better GPU?
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The GPU being overclocked so much seems like it would add a good amount of performance gains.
 
cereal killer said:
Here's a question..if there are so many "reliable sources" why do they all contradict each other? :)

Winner gets a cookie
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I like cookies....

Could the real truth be there are only a few reliable sources? Just like the game telephone; I say one thing to you. You tell your neighbor something with a little twist and so it goes......
 
Mach Droid said:
With that being said, and the device does come in at the lower end of the rumor scale, what would your next choice in phone be?
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The Prime, definitely. I practice what I preach :p
The only reasonable alternative would be the vigor, and I'm wary of getting an HTC phone after the TB debacle. Not to mention ICS is still a huge advantage in my view.
 
Back to processor talk (I know I know we heard enough). but really.
Have any of you seen the blackberry playbook in use? I ask because it uses a 4430 at 1ghz and NOTHING can slow that thing down. and it's running at almost HD resolution (600 x 1024). The browser is what most impressed me. and that's clocked 50% lower than the prime!
Just goes to show you what software optimization can do.
Here's hoping ICS will have awesome opotimization
 
arite guys, i know this forum is fast moving, but i would appreciate a response if anyone knows.

1. will this phone have wifi direct? pretty cool feature on the gsII and it would be nice to see on the Prime.

2. how will gaming performance compare to the gsII assuming we get the 4460?

3. gaming performance compared to bionic

3. (I know its early) Do we know if the GsIII gunna hit verizon and if so, when?

5. epic touch 4g, vs verizon galaxy nexus (based on current specs)

6. get this phone or wait for gsIII?

answer any of the above :)
Thanks in advance guys appreciate response...

im new to this site, but just watned to say its the best tech forum around!!
 
Sandroidfan said:
I'm fine with OMAP 4460. But I just don't get where 1.2Ghz clock speed came back from other than BGR.:confused:
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I believe it was the Archos G9 that was originally spec'ed to have 4460, but at the last minute they changed to a 1.2GHz 4430 or 4460 w/plans to offer 1.5GHz 4460 when it becomes available.

WalmartSecurity said:
The OMAP 4460 was designed to run at 1.5ghz. Therefore, it's more than capable of running at that speed.
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Sorry, that's foolish. Lots of products fail to meet their design targets (reliability and yields in this case), and 4460 may need more refinement of the design and/or fabrication process before it's ready.

WalmartSecurity said:
If the Nexus came underclocked, I'd simply overclock it if it mattered that much to me. If it really is a 4460, then it'd be stable at 1.5. We could probably push that thing to 2.0ghz+ if we really wanted to.
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Totally wrong. A chip is stable when the manufacturer releases it for sale with official specs. If you buy a chip originally designed for 1.5GHz but sold as 1.2GHz, then you're guaranteed 1.2GHz, period. You can take your chances and it may well successfully overclock to 1.5GHz or higher, but the risk is solely your own.
 
cereal killer said:
Here's a question..if there are so many "reliable sources" why do they all contradict each other? :)

Winner gets a cookie
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Obviously there are a lot of rumor mongers and speculators, but there are some who definately have the inside track. BMX, P3, etc.

So if they really do have inside information, why is it sometimes wrong???

The answer to your original question quite simply comes down to......maybe they're telling the truth........from a certain point of view (in Obiwon Kenobi voice).

For example,
I believe P3 has a development phone, or has access to one. However, it most likely is not a production model. My speculation is that the SoC on the development platform has the OMAP 4430, clocked to 1.2GHz. Or perhaps it's an early yeild of the 4460. That's further reinforced by some of the production delays in the 4460. Since these are fully pin and driver compliant, it's an easy parts list change for production models.

So again, what prototype phones exist very well may be be clocked to 1.2GHz. So those people are telling the truth, as far as thier NDAs or CYAs(:D) will allow. But they're also not privy to last minute changes, executive decisions, or other inside info. All they can say is what's in thier hands, and I believe they've done that. But as to the final product, I don't think they can say definitively, either way.
 
BlueBiker said:
Sorry, that's foolish. Lots of products fail to meet their design targets (reliability and yields in this case), and 4460 may need more refinement of the design and/or fabrication process before it's ready.



Totally wrong. A chip is stable when the manufacturer releases it for sale with official specs. If you buy a chip originally designed for 1.5GHz but sold as 1.2GHz, then you're guaranteed 1.2GHz, period. You can take your chances and it may well successfully overclock to 1.5GHz or higher, but the risk is solely your own.
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My bad, you're right. But I was under the impression that Steven's source had used the Nexus clocked in at 1.5gHz without hiccups.

My guess is that IF it does come underclocked at 1.2gHz, it'd be more for battery concerns than stability issues, no?
 
BlueBiker said:
Totally wrong. A chip is stable when the manufacturer releases it for sale with official specs. If you buy a chip originally designed for 1.5GHz but sold as 1.2GHz, then you're guaranteed 1.2GHz, period. You can take your chances and it may well successfully overclock to 1.5GHz or higher, but the risk is solely your own.
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I agree in theory......but Ti does sell the OMAP 4460 as a 1.5GHz device. Go download the datasheet for yourself. No mention at all about 1.2GHz.

For giggles, my EE coworker/friend who is also interested in the Prime called up Ti to inquire about purchasing the OMAP 4460. Got spooked by some of the delay reports. We got quoted lot prices and delivery dates. There were no issues.

Trust me, there is no problem running this chip at 1.5GHz. If there was, thier datasheets would have been updated by now. Chip has been available for months now.
 
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