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***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

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PowerCosmic said:
I'm suggesting that people make educated decisions. It's a bit reductive to refer to this as simply the "waiting game". Qualcomm, for instance, is set to release their Krait processor in the first half of 2012. So we're talking anywhere from ~2 months (unlikely) to 8 months (again, unlikely). Realistically, an android phone utilizing the Krait processor would probably be released somewhere in between. With all of the benefits of a a processor node almost half the size of current processors, it would be well worth the wait.

Times are getting tougher and I think it's valuable for everyone to be educated about this kind of thing before dropping ~$300 on antiquated hardware. I'm not promoting the waiting game. I'm promoting longer-term decision making.
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I'll buy into "longer-term decision making", but as I've said before, purchasing a phone is a personal decision. What may be right for me may not be right for you. For me, the Gnex has everything that I'm looking for and then some. There is nothing I see on the horizon (by the end of the year) that will come with stock ICS out of the box. Everyone's situation is different. I (and I assume many others) am not willing to wait for something better to come out in the first half of 2012. I'm ready for a new phone now and the Gnex will fit my needs for the next 1-2 years. At the end of the day, it's our money and we should buy what makes us happy whether that's the Gnex or some other device that will be out next year.
 
UBRocked said:
True...there are always other options. That's Android's best feature!

I know that people in this thread are nervous and excited so don't think I'm down playing the GNex but...

IF (damn, that's a big IF) other manufacturers will leave ICS alone, you may have many (and possibly better) hardware options in early 2012 that will offer fast updates and a stock ICS experience. Sucks having to wait if you are eligible for a new phone now but there will be tons of options soon enough.
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Ok, then you will have better hardware... but you will have to wait for Android updates depending from manufacturer? With Nexus phone youre depending on Google so sure you will get them.
 
Heck I haven't even seen the LTE version yet. All I know is that the specs are different.

Whatever that means......

Yes I'm afraid I'm clueless lol
 
Good nite folks.. just wanna say thank you for your participation thus far. We had a blow out party over over 360 peeps in the chatroom, watching the stream. It was a blast. I'll be back here to chat tomorrow.

Steven
 
theineffablebob said:
Google said it's coming to the US on LTE in November.

Will AT&T have LTE in November? No. Therefore it is coming to Verizon.
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Not so specificly they did not. Just pointed out there will be LTE and HSDPA ready for any carrier demanding whichever.

It's pretty firm it was developed on VZW LTE, but that means nothing if'n VZW has had their ego stompted by the Goog.
 
SharpdressedZZ said:
Ok, then you will have better hardware... but you will have to wait for Android updates depending from manufacturer? With Nexus phone youre depending on Google so sure you will get them.
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Well, the majority of people will be relying on the manufacturer...I will be depending on the awesome Dev community. ;)

Believe me, I completely understand your point and it is certainly valid. I've never had a Nexus phone and I would love to have one. But consider the following:

I had the Moto Droid running GB when it NEVER officially got updated to it. I had the Samsung Fascinate running 2.2 and 2.3 when Samsung was royally screwing over those users and not updating the software. I now have the Thunderbolt running GB when the LONG awaited update from HTC still hasn't been completely delivered as the update was pulled back. The same is true for countless other devices.

So for us rooters, we will have options but those options are restricted when manufacturers lock down the phones and/or put on their skins (cause it makes AOSP ROMs harder to build). Having a vanilla Google OS (or close to vanilla which would include bloatware and maybe some simple theming...not a full skin) helps the cause. If CyanogenMod is fairly easy to port over, or if other AOSP ROMs are possible then updates should be speedy. The Nexus S will officially get ICS sometime after the Galaxy Nexus is released but there will be phones running it unofficially prior to that and the Nexus S will of course...but many other phones that will not get updated "officially" will have new life as well.

Thus the reason we don't like locked bootloaders. if manufacturers are going abandon their fairly recent phones and decline to update them because of cost, then at the very least you should give us the keys...and make no mistake, HTC is full of crap with this statement. It's all about the benjamins baby!

Sorry for the somewhat long and somewhat off-topic post but I feel that many people do not know why we complain about locked bootloaders and custom skins. The manufacturers want to sell their NEW phones and not waste time updating their older phones that are still relevant...which is a huge disadvantage to the Android platform...too many phones and not enough manufacturer support.
 
PowerCosmic said:
I'm suggesting that people make educated decisions. It's a bit reductive to refer to this as simply the "waiting game". Qualcomm, for instance, is set to release their Krait processor in the first half of 2012. So we're talking anywhere from ~2 months (unlikely) to 8 months (again, unlikely). Realistically, an android phone utilizing the Krait processor would probably be released somewhere in between. With all of the benefits of a a processor node almost half the size of current processors, it would be well worth the wait.

Times are getting tougher and I think it's valuable for everyone to be educated about this kind of thing before dropping ~$300 on antiquated hardware. I'm not promoting the waiting game. I'm promoting longer-term decision making.
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But you are then insinuating people aren't making an educated decision because they are jumping at the Galaxy Nexus? They obviously were overhyped by some glorious specs and that was brought down to reality. Yet, a large portion still love the phone for what it is. Sure, others or myself could wait for Krait... and sure, I can see the benefits.

But how can you guarantee there will be another phone with ICS in the near future? How can you guarantee that it will be a balanced, powerful phone like the Galaxy Nexus? How can you guarantee all these features with this phone will be on an upcoming phone in early 2012? Better yet, a stock reference ICS experience? I have no worries about the Galaxy Nexus because I -know- it will be a flagship phone that is supported by Google/Samsung without being relegated to some forgotten corner of the android non-update universe.

So yea, I and probably others are taking everything well enough into consideration; perhaps I do moreso because I don't have the option of a subsidized phone, so I'll be shelling out a lot more than $300.

In the end, it's a waiting game based off preferences, not absolute reasoning.
 
PowerCosmic said:
I'm suggesting that people make educated decisions. It's a bit reductive to refer to this as simply the "waiting game". Qualcomm, for instance, is set to release their Krait processor in the first half of 2012. So we're talking anywhere from ~2 months (unlikely) to 8 months (again, unlikely). Realistically, an android phone utilizing the Krait processor would probably be released somewhere in between. With all of the benefits of a a processor node almost half the size of current processors, it would be well worth the wait.

Times are getting tougher and I think it's valuable for everyone to be educated about this kind of thing before dropping ~$300 on antiquated hardware. I'm not promoting the waiting game. I'm promoting longer-term decision making.
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Then again however your only thinking into the future far enough based on these specifications. Its only right to assume that something else will eventually release within the same specified time period that will adequately topple what your describing now. Thus in my opinion resulting in a person paying attention to what may be the wrong things, or simply playing "the waiting game". This sort of thing can go on forever. I definitely understand the principle your trying to imply though.

Being honest, a person might say the nexus primes specs are a tad bit behind the curve in comparison to what may be out there in a few months, and that these devices will be x times faster/more efficient ect. ect. But really waiting around for an unknown ETA I don't think is the solution personally.

I think a better remedy would be to settle for whats best now, then sell/trade and pay the difference for whats available later.

:cool:
 
likebutta said:
But you are then insinuating people aren't making an educated decision because they are jumping at the Galaxy Nexus? They obviously were overhyped by some glorious specs and that was brought down to reality. Yet, a large portion still love the phone for what it is. Sure, others or myself could wait for Krait... and sure, I can see the benefits.

But how can you guarantee there will be another phone with ICS in the near future? How can you guarantee that it will be a balanced, powerful phone like the Galaxy Nexus? How can you guarantee all these features with this phone will be on an upcoming phone in early 2012? Better yet, a stock reference ICS experience? I have no worries about the Galaxy Nexus because I -know- it will be a flagship phone that is supported by Google/Samsung without being relegated to some forgotten corner of the android non-update universe.

So yea, I and probably others are taking everything well enough into consideration; perhaps I do moreso because I don't have the option of a subsidized phone, so I'll be shelling out a lot more than $300.

In the end, it's a waiting game based off preferences, not absolute reasoning.
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Ynomrah said:
Then again however your only thinking into the future far enough based on these specifications. Its only right to assume that something else will eventually release within the same specified time period that will adequately topple what your describing now. Thus in my opinion resulting in a person paying attention to what may be the wrong things, or simply playing "the waiting game". This sort of thing can go on forever. I definitely understand the principle your trying to imply though.

Being honest, a person might say the nexus primes specs are a tad bit behind the curve in comparison to what may be out there in a few months, and that these devices will be x times faster/more efficient ect. ect. But really waiting around for an unknown ETA I don't think is the solution personally.

I think a better remedy would be to settle for whats best now, then sell/trade and pay the difference for whats available later.

:cool:
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I'm going to say this for the people that aren't sure what to do. Upgrading to the Galaxy Nexus is NOT a mistake IMO. The phone will be relevant for quite some time and while the specs will not WOW you, the seamless integration of ICS, matched with very respectable specs is a very positive combination.

This is not like the situation with the Droid Bionic. Many Bionic users are having buyers remorse right now and have every right to be upset with Motorola and Verizon. Galaxy Nexus users will not find themselves in that situation.
 
Ynomrah said:
Then again however your only thinking into the future far enough based on these specifications. Its only right to assume that something else will eventually release within the same specified time period that will adequately topple what your describing now. Thus in my opinion resulting in a person paying attention to what may be the wrong things, or simply playing "the waiting game". This sort of thing can go on forever. I definitely understand the principle your trying to imply though.

Being honest, a person might say the nexus primes specs are a tad bit behind the curve in comparison to what may be out there in a few months, and that these devices will be x times faster/more efficient ect. ect. But really waiting around for an unknown ETA I don't think is the solution personally.

I think a better remedy would be to settle for whats best now, then sell/trade and pay the difference for whats available later.

:cool:
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Another point to make is the carrier. There's no doubt that better phones will be coming soon. The problem is with verizons track record, we won't be getting any of those better phones. Sure if I wasn't on Verizon I MIGHT consider a pass on the gnex but since we don't get the same phone selection the gnex is literally a dream come true for those of us who know what I'm talking about
 
Sorry to change the subject but one thing jumped out to me and I was wondering if any of you noticed. When the guy was talking about phone depth, he gave dimensions and specifically said, "for the HSPA+ model". So does this mean that we may see a larger size (or smaller) on the LTE model?
 
alprazolam said:
Sorry to change the subject but one thing jumped out to me and I was wondering if any of you noticed. When the guy was talking about phone depth, he gave dimensions and specifically said, "for the HSPA+ model". So does this mean that we may see a larger size (or smaller) on the LTE model?
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Oh I'd say it's definitely going to be thicker on the LTE model. Probably not by much but the LTE radios are bigger than the HSPA+ radios. But if it is 9.00mm instead of 8.84mm...that's not a considerable difference but for the presentation, they were going with the slimmest number because it sounds better.
 
Impressions after READING various reviews( and youtubes ). First, I don't consider myself an Apple fanboi. My last phone was a Droid X with an extended battery. My wife currently uses a Droid Pro, so I keep up with Android. I currently have an Iphone 4 with IOS 5 installed. I moved to the Iphone 4 from the Droid X because I wanted a leap in technology and user experience. I have been very satisfied with my IP4. I have it in a Mophie Juice Pack Air case, so I have effectively about 2800maH at my disposal. I really looked closely at the unveiling of the RAZR and the Nexus. Obviously, the Nexus is superior to the RAZR in my opinion. ICS seems quite good. My problem is that I do not see the leap in user experience and technology that would lead me to switch to the Nexus. A 1750 maH battery( I believe the NFC chip is built into the battery, so extended batteries might be slow to come on the horizon), seems a step backwards for me. Certainly LTE is an advantage for someone who needs it. I currently have access to a reasonably fast wi-fi ( about 15 down, 2 up ) that satisfies my needs about 80% of the time. If a person has a Droid, this upgrade will be meaningful and might lead many people to buy the Nexus. The 4.65 inch screen with HD is very good, but it is being presented in a 4.3 inch format most of the time. The problem seems to be that the 28nm processor technology is coming very quickly and that will allow for a much better user experience and battery life. I was really interested in the Nexus, but, for me, I will wait until next summer to see what is out there to give me the leap that I am looking for.
 
UBRocked said:
Oh I'd say it's definitely going to be thicker on the LTE model. Probably not by much but the LTE radios are bigger than the HSPA+ radios. But if it is 9.00mm instead of 8.84mm...that's not a considerable difference but for the presentation, they were going with the slimmest number because it sounds better.
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Those are my thoughts. I just wondered if others were hanging on to every freaking word like myself. LOL.

Also, the whole face recognition thing. It surprises me that the presenters tend to use live demo's throughout an unveiling. One instance is that clearly the face recognition is not ready for prime time. I'm sure that Google knows that and I'm surprised they didn't pre-record some demo for that feature. I think it's really transparent to let the woes of live technology take it's course though.
 
Good commentary jimbo1mcm. I have become impatient with my Droid X and am ready to drop the dough. I will always find a way to upgrade on at least a yearly basis so I don't worry about missing out on next year's innovations. Enjoy your eye fone! :D
 
I would think the one of the bigger questions to ask would be, what GPU is it running and at what speed? Is it the SGX540 running at 384 mhz is it at a lower clock speed because the CPU is running at 1.2 vs 1.5? If we can stably overclock the CPU will that increase the clock speed of the GPU, if the clock speeds are tied together? Could that potential speed bump enhance performance of the phone?
 
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