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***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

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BlueBiker said:
Okay 'Vette, what's the story? Does your EE coworker/friend retract the claim, or should we believe that 1.5GHz is available in quantity but Nexus uses a slower chip for the battery savings?
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There is nothing preventing the chip from running at 1.5GHz. We actually may select it for a mobile product we are designing.

It could be that they intentionally underclocked it for battery performance. Which is actually somewhat good news, that you could overclock when necessary.
 
nj02vette said:
It could be that they intentionally underclocked it for battery performance. Which is actually somewhat good news, that you could overclock when necessary.
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Right, then it would've been even better news if it'd been released at 1.0GHz!

You're just a glass-half-full kinda person, eh? :rolleyes:
 
Guys lets cheer up a little and just wait it out. We'll know soon enough if the device is on VZ or not. It will make it to the USA one way or the other.
 
BlueBiker said:
Okay 'Vette, what's the story? Does your EE coworker/friend retract the claim, or should we believe that 1.5GHz is available in quantity but Nexus uses a slower chip for the battery savings?
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nj02vette was clear - going by info passed along by TI rep.

And a local rep is not going to quote past the company line for quantity deals until quantity deals are on the table.

If you ask if the chip does 1.5 as stated, you'll be told yes and you'll be sold what you asked for.

If you're Samsung and Google, you sit at a bigger table, not a local rep.

And there are many ways to fill a 1.2 order - widen acceptance criteria for yields is a very good way - or if there are no yield issues, just underclock the 1.5 copies.

Availability of actual quantities from TI along with meaningful yield statistics - not the easiest info to get outside of the industry, but it happens from time to time.

edit and ps - ninja'd by nj02vette! :)
 
BlueBiker said:
Right, then it would've been even better news if it'd been released at 1.0GHz!

You're just a glass-half-full kinda person, eh? :rolleyes:
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Design is all about compromises. Acceptable speed with acceptable battery life. Those are opposing goals. You pick the sweet spot in the middle. I'm just guessing that 1.2GHz fit the bill, but it's just that, a guess.

Personally, I'd rather have a thicker device with larger battery and 1.5GHz. Make no mistake, I'm bummed out on the announcement. No glass half-full here.

So much so, while I was certain that this was my next phone, now I'm not so sure. One thing is certain, if there is any buggy hardware, it's a showstopper. I'm not dealing with that again.
 
I'm really hoping that facebook page gets pegged by americans wanting the Nexus on other carriers. Then maybe Samoogle will put it out to more carriers than just VZW. Vote early and often people.
 
EarlyMon said:
nj02vette was clear - going by info passed along by TI rep.

And a local rep is not going to quote past the company line for quantity deals until quantity deals are on the table.

If you ask if the chip does 1.5 as stated, you'll be told yes and you'll be sold what you asked for.

If you're Samsung and Google, you sit at a bigger table, not a local rep.

And there are many ways to fill a 1.2 order - widen acceptance criteria for yields is a very good way - or if there are no yield issues, just underclock the 1.5 copies.

Availability of actual quantities from TI along with meaningful yield statistics - not the easiest info to get outside of the industry, but it happens from time to time.
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Exactly right. There could be mfr issues that are forcing bad yeilds. So they binned them.

The information I got, however, indicated no binning. It could run 1.5GHz all day long. We are a volume customer, just not Moto/Samsung type volume. We are getting samples in a few days.
 
matt999000 said:
Guys lets cheer up a little and just wait it out. We'll know soon enough if the device is on VZ or not. It will make it to the USA one way or the other.
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LOL, this thread is all about speculating and not waiting. If it was, we'd have a line of people behind Stephen58 patiently waiting. Instead we got over 13k posts all on rumor and innuendo.
 
nj02vette said:
LOL, this thread is all about speculating and not waiting. If it was, we'd have a line of people behind Stephen58 patiently waiting. Instead we got over 13k posts all on rumor and innuendo.
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LOL, true I'm all for speculation but why speculate the phone is not coming out :(. Maybe it just makes me sad to think it wont make it here.
 
nj02vette said:
Exactly right. There could be mfr issues that are forcing bad yeilds. So they binned them.

The information I got, however, indicated no binning. It could run 1.5GHz all day long. We are a volume customer, just not Moto/Samsung type volume. We are getting samples in a few days.
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There may be no speed binning but are power binning though correct?? Or there could atleast be power binning for those that need to hit certain power levels.

Not that that matters if they can't deliver Moto or Samsung level volumes at 1.5ghz with the powers they want at that speed to actually ship with it.
 
nj02vette said:
Design is all about compromises. Acceptable speed with acceptable battery life. Those are opposing goals. You pick the sweet spot in the middle. I'm just guessing that 1.2GHz fit the bill, but it's just that, a guess.

Personally, I'd rather have a thicker device with larger battery and 1.5GHz. Make no mistake, I'm bummed out on the announcement. No glass half-full here.

So much so, while I was certain that this was my next phone, now I'm not so sure. One thing is certain, if there is any buggy hardware, it's a showstopper. I'm not dealing with that again.
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Those are all good points, as were Early's. I'm just grumbling here. I'd love 1.5 w/thicker/larger battery too, but I understand they're competing in a market that demands thinness.

ICS. HD screen. Fantastic camera. 1.2GHz dual-A9. This really is a helluva nice phone, and I'm not inclined to believe that 4G problems will delay it on VZW.
 
Knips178 said:
I'm really hoping that facebook page gets pegged by americans wanting the Nexus on other carriers. Then maybe Samoogle will put it out to more carriers than just VZW. Vote early and often people.
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You don't fully understand the situation. When deals are worked out (prob over a year ago I might add), carriers PAY for the ability to have handsets exclusive. This isn't for Google/Samsung to decide. There's already contracts in place and deals made.
 
nj02vette said:
Exactly right. There could be mfr issues that are forcing bad yeilds. So they binned them.

The information I got, however, indicated no binning. It could run 1.5GHz all day long. We are a volume customer, just not Moto/Samsung type volume. We are getting samples in a few days.
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I believe this very discussion is where you and I met here. :)
 
BlueBiker said:
Those are all good points, as were Early's. I'm just grumbling here. I'd love 1.5 w/thicker/larger battery too, but I understand they're competing in a market that demands thinness.

ICS. HD screen. Fantastic camera. 1.2GHz dual-A9. This really is a helluva nice phone, and I'm not inclined to believe that 4G problems will delay it on VZW.
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That's why I'm still holding onto that slim sliver of hope that "the specs for the LTE version may be different".

We know it's thicker. Can they put a thicker battery and 1.5GHz clocked processor in too?

I already know that's not happening, but I'm holding on to what slim chance it may be.
 
Im new to the whole android thing and especially google phones,

but doesnt google always sell unlocked versions anways? I am waiting for the ATT version as my upgrade is in november. We know its GSM so whats the big deal, cant I buy it anyways?

Ill just use my upgrade for a 4s , sell that for 650 and pay off the galaxy nexus.

Or am I just an idiot?
 
BlueBiker said:
Those are all good points, as were Early's. I'm just grumbling here. I'd love 1.5 w/thicker/larger battery too, but I understand they're competing in a market that demands thinness.

ICS. HD screen. Fantastic camera. 1.2GHz dual-A9. This really is a helluva nice phone, and I'm not inclined to believe that 4G problems will delay it on VZW.
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As long as this is a mostly unlocked device and Sammy or aftermarket peeps do extended battery I am figger'n you will get your wish on this one. A lot of these could be good for 2ghz at reasonable brick battery power draw levels for all we know.

My OG Droid was a 550ghz phone most ran at 800-1200 once overclocking was available. I think maybe later official Moto ROMs might have even increased base clock speed to 800mhz if I am not mistaken as all the developer builds did. I have hardly ever run my OG Droid at stock speed even with standard battery.
 
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