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***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

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Well, I think I'm gonna start a new thread about this since a lot of people probably missed this, but earlier, we were having a discussion about USB hosting and we found that, with the right $5 adapter, you can plug any USB storage device into the micro USB port and use it as storage space, thereby removing any need for the cloud for those that don't want to eat up their data. It's not as nice as a built-in SD card slot by any means, but it's not too inconvenient, since you could just carry around an SD card reader or a thumb drive in your pocket and keep all your media on there. It's worth considering.


I already carry two card readers and a thumb drive so adding something for the phone is not a big deal to me.
 
Looks like it's gonna be a great day, Gnexers!

If this phone DOES come out with 32GB memory, we are so hooked up it's almost ridiculous! ICS, HD screen, NFC, all that memory with 1080P video capture. And if this phone is as awesome as we all think it's gonna be, there should be no reason at all to root & ROM it!

All this and the Orionid meteor shower this morning? Not a bad Sunday to wake up to, if I do say so myself... :)

Only reason I rooted and ROM'd is because HTC and Verizon were taking too damn long to get the updates out. With this phone getting the latest and greatest first and probably even before release to ASOP that need it gone.
 
You know if we get a "decent" sized battery I won't even be concerned with underclocking to conserve battery life. TiBU, ROM Manager, SetCPU... all these utilities I paid for will just stay on the Droid. Their purpose has been fulfilled, and I foresee no reason to put them on the Nexus.
 
I was worried about non-removable storage until I realized that I have the same SD card in my OG Droid and have absolutely never taken it out.
 
Aren't the dual cores already independently clocked? Would you really NEED SetCPU? :confused:

Qualcomm's Krait MPCore is the one that allows cores to be independently clocked. Cortex A9 (Exynos, OMAP4, Tegra 2) does not. There's some real debate over which method is better for battery conservation. Raising the clock speed on either core raises the voltage to the chip. This is how multi-core processors conserve battery life. They keep the clock speed as low as necessary and split the load to reduce voltage. So, we'll see if Qualcomm's approach has the effect that they want.

But yea, Nexus doesn't have independently clocked cores.
 
God why is it so early. I need the bears game to come on so I can start with the brews!

Here here! Although the fact that Lovie decided to fly these old guys in on Thursday night, I'm afraid, portends disaster. I don't know what he was thinking.
 
In THAT case, Medion, I may root to install SetCPU - but only if I know it's configured to clock dual cores (is it?). Rooting alone shouldn't affect direct Google updates, and if I can underclock while idle, then the battery should easily last all day.
 
Maybe I just missed it, but I haven't seen anyone address concern about the battery on the LTE model. The LTE model has been said to be thicker, does that mean that it has a bigger battery?

I must admit, I'm concerned about battery life. The RAZR has a smaller screen and a (just barely) bigger battery, I can't imagine ICS saving enough battery to make up for the television on the Nexus' face.

Is that something Stephen could ask the beloved Love Tunnel? if the Verizon LTE version has a larger battery than the HSPA+ version? Seems like it would be as simple as anyone who has a Verizon test model checking under the cover.
 
In THAT case, Medion, I may root to install SetCPU - but only if I know it's configured to clock dual cores (is it?). Rooting alone shouldn't affect direct Google updates, and if I can underclock while idle, then the battery should easily last all day.

FYI, I stopped using SetCPU with Gingerbread. I found that the battery savings with certain profiles was seemingly negated by the fact that SetCPU as a service had to run continuously. Slow wake locks and such. Don't get me wrong, it did extend battery life, but it just wasn't worth the perceived trade-off to me.

Without SetCPU, using a Droid Incredible (CM7.1) I get through a full day on a charge under normal use, and 2-2.5 days of very light use. I don't need SetCPU like I did in the past.
 
Maybe I just missed it, but I haven't seen anyone address concern about the battery on the LTE model. The LTE model has been said to be thicker, does that mean that it has a bigger battery?

I must admit, I'm concerned about battery life. The RAZR has a smaller screen and a (just barely) bigger battery, I can't imagine ICS saving enough battery to make up for the television on the Nexus' face.

Is that something Stephen could ask the beloved Love Tunnel? if the Verizon LTE version has a larger battery than the HSPA+ version? Seems like it would be as simple as anyone who has a Verizon test model checking under the cover.


I could be wrong, but I thought BMX or some inside source out there said that between the Razr and Gal. Nexus that the overall user experience was better on the GN, but battery life was better on the Razr.

I wouldn't be surprised if the battery was the same for both LTE and HSPA+ model.
 
Maybe I just missed it, but I haven't seen anyone address concern about the battery on the LTE model. The LTE model has been said to be thicker, does that mean that it has a bigger battery?

I must admit, I'm concerned about battery life. The RAZR has a smaller screen and a (just barely) bigger battery, I can't imagine ICS saving enough battery to make up for the television on the Nexus' face.

Is that something Stephen could ask the beloved Love Tunnel? if the Verizon LTE version has a larger battery than the HSPA+ version? Seems like it would be as simple as anyone who has a Verizon test model checking under the cover.

The Love Tunnel previously said that his/her device had a larger battery. LTE will suck up more battery, but ICS is supposed to be the first fully optimized OS for dual core, and hopefully that might have some positive impact on power consumption.
 
In THAT case, Medion, I may root to install SetCPU - but only if I know it's configured to clock dual cores (is it?). Rooting alone shouldn't affect direct Google updates, and if I can underclock while idle, then the battery should easily last all day.

I hope that ICS has implemented something like what the RAZR is coming out with (custom-made power management settings). If I can slow it way down between say, the hours of 8am and 12pm, then 1pm to 5pm (work hours), I should only have to charge it at night.
 
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Originally Posted by jimbo1mcm
The Cloud: I hope Nexus/Verizon brings the 32GB. I am disappointed that there is no SD card to increase storage or a bigger initial drive. I am very suspicious of the "cloud". While it seems like a good deal for people with unlimited data, wait a while. When things start getting really busy with high downloads from the cloud, the carriers will give you a choice of data plans, AFTER they stop unlimited data, which I think they will.


From Roosevelt:
Well, I think I'm gonna start a new thread about this since a lot of people probably missed this, but earlier, we were having a discussion about USB hosting and we found that, with the right $5 adapter, you can plug any USB storage device into the micro USB port and use it as storage space, thereby removing any need for the cloud for those that don't want to eat up their data. It's not as nice as a built-in SD card slot by any means, but it's not too inconvenient, since you could just carry around an SD card reader or a thumb drive in your pocket and keep all your media on there. It's worth considering.
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My worry is that people that are grandfathered are going to lose unlimited data. There is absolutely no guarantee of unlimited data in perpetuity. The carriers can limit it whenever they feel like it or when their servers get overloaded or filled up.
 
I hope that ICS has implemented something like what the RAZR is coming out with (custom-made power management settings). If I can slow it way down between say, the hours of 8am and 12pm, then 1pm to 5pm (work hours), I should only have to charge it at night.

Even Froyo (Eclair?) had similar setting to idle the refreshes at night to concerve batt power.

And 1-5pm? Don't break a nail working too hard. :D
 
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Originally Posted by jimbo1mcm
The Cloud: I hope Nexus/Verizon brings the 32GB. I am disappointed that there is no SD card to increase storage or a bigger initial drive. I am very suspicious of the "cloud". While it seems like a good deal for people with unlimited data, wait a while. When things start getting really busy with high downloads from the cloud, the carriers will give you a choice of data plans, AFTER they stop unlimited data, which I think they will.


From Roosevelt:
Well, I think I'm gonna start a new thread about this since a lot of people probably missed this, but earlier, we were having a discussion about USB hosting and we found that, with the right $5 adapter, you can plug any USB storage device into the micro USB port and use it as storage space, thereby removing any need for the cloud for those that don't want to eat up their data. It's not as nice as a built-in SD card slot by any means, but it's not too inconvenient, since you could just carry around an SD card reader or a thumb drive in your pocket and keep all your media on there. It's worth considering.
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From Jimbo1mcm:

My worry is that people that are grandfathered are going to lose unlimited data. There is absolutely no guarantee of unlimited data in perpetuity. The carriers can limit it whenever they feel like it or when their servers get overloaded or filled up.
They are already limiting unlimited plan's with throttling.Or the threat of it.
 
Here here! Although the fact that Lovie decided to fly these old guys in on Thursday night, I'm afraid, portends disaster. I don't know what he was thinking.


Thursday night is plenty of time to recover from the jetlag. New England flew in on a Thursday night last time they played the Bucs in London and smashed them. Flying in late lets you avoid the media and get in a real workout. The day and time that the Bears fly in is the least of their worries. The Bears should win this game if they follow the same gameplan as last week. The Bucs have no pash rush, and on offence without their center will be open to the '3' technique allowing peppers to cause some disruption on the outside.
 
Qualcomm's Krait MPCore is the one that allows cores to be independently clocked. Cortex A9 (Exynos, OMAP4, Tegra 2) does not. There's some real debate over which method is better for battery conservation. Raising the clock speed on either core raises the voltage to the chip. This is how multi-core processors conserve battery life. They keep the clock speed as low as necessary and split the load to reduce voltage. So, we'll see if Qualcomm's approach has the effect that they want.

But yea, Nexus doesn't have independently clocked cores.

Tegra, definitely synchronously clocked cores. Snapdragon S3, definitely clocked asynchronously (will share pics via PM of the cores measurably running at different speeds). The press was ablaze about the Exynos also running asynchronously, perhaps AnandTech may have pictures.

4460, don't know, if it's in their documents, I'll post back.

Sorry if this sounds clipped, posting from phone on the run, no bad tone of voice intended or implied. ;) :)

Edit and ps - the issue here is independent clocking of the CPUs leads to a kernel discipline allowing for higher performance with improved battery life.
 
no bad tone of voice intended or implied.

Snapdragon S3, definitely clocked asynchronously (will share pics via PM of the cores measurably running at different speeds).

I'd be curious to see that, since Qualcomm made it sound as if Krait was getting this "new" feature.

. The press was ablaze about the Exynos also running asynchronously, perhaps AnandTech may have pictures.

4460, don't know, if it's in their documents, I'll post back.

4460 uses a stock Cortex A9, so it can't, it's not an A9 capability. Same with A5 and Exynos, so unless I see it with my own eyes, I'm doubtful.
 
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