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bcltoys
Android Enthusiast
Sorry let me reword that 3g throttling I'm 25 miles outside of 4g so throttling on 4g is not going to happen. I don't think there throttling 4g. Yet
gapi
Android Expert
Oooh! What went around is coming around!
gapi
Android Expert
I will definitely be trying that setup if not just out of curiosity.
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HanSolo
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What did you say, Guppy?
(for the record, if this name twisting eventually gets out of hand, I want everyone to remember that I was the victim!)
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HanSolo
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Ah, ok I see. I assumed you were talking about 4G. Don't know why I assumed that.
nj02vette
Android Expert
That's debatable. But from the article in Technobuffalo two weeks ago:
If you're going through 60GB in 13 days, you are indeed abusing it and you're making it tough on the rest of us who hope to enjoy unlimited data indefinitely. Also, that many GB (especially the 120 in 10 days) means that you're definitely downloading huge illegal torrents 24/7. If you're doing that, you probably deserve to get kicked off Verizon permanently, not just have your speed throttled for a billing cycle.
When NE beat the Bucs, the Bucs were 0-6 and the Patriots were on their way to the playoffs. I think jet lag will play a huge role. Don't be surprised if there's 40 points scored in this game, and the Bears only get 13 of them.
Well, 60GB can be 20ish hours of HD video. Is it so inconceivable that someone would want to stream 1 two hour HD movie a day?
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HanSolo
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Great point, hadn't thought of that. I think the 120GB in 10 days, though, is definitely suspicious.
I know that illegal torrent downloading is a very common practice. I just don't agree with it and it's a huge pet peeve.
What did you say, Guppy?
(for the record, if this name twisting eventually gets out of hand, I want everyone to remember that I was the victim!)
Absolutely, completely and totally noted.
Filed under ringleader, cross-referenced to enabling.
Got it!
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So long as it's all polite, good-natured and respectful, that's the thing.
We surely don't want things getting out of hands.
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HanSolo
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Absolutely, completely and totally noted.
Filed under ringleader, cross-referenced to enabling.
Got it!
literal laugh out loud
burntorangefan
Android Enthusiast
Mods, feel free to move if this doesn't belong in this thread...
So I'm doing research on NFC, vendor availability and the like and I stumbled across this article:
Non-Sprint Nexus S Users Access Google Wallet App, Sans Security | News & Opinion | PCMag.com
which makes me quite reticent to install custom ROMs if using NFC...which would sort of take away the whole unlocked bootloader for ROMs discussion. All of that predicated, of course, on widespread NFC availability...or if you were planning on using it in the first place (which I'm kind of stoked about).
At any rate, just weighing options between GN and RAZR and IF NFC becomes commonplace in the next year or so, custom ROMs would necessarily go bye bye for me!
So I'm doing research on NFC, vendor availability and the like and I stumbled across this article:
Non-Sprint Nexus S Users Access Google Wallet App, Sans Security | News & Opinion | PCMag.com
which makes me quite reticent to install custom ROMs if using NFC...which would sort of take away the whole unlocked bootloader for ROMs discussion. All of that predicated, of course, on widespread NFC availability...or if you were planning on using it in the first place (which I'm kind of stoked about).
At any rate, just weighing options between GN and RAZR and IF NFC becomes commonplace in the next year or so, custom ROMs would necessarily go bye bye for me!
nj02vette
Android Expert
I do agree in theory. Those who tether and abuse the bandwidth will ruin it (have ruined it) for the rest of us. However, the carriers need to be a little more descriminating with thier data. They can tell if the traffic is P2P or tethered, and throttle it. Comast does that right now, as an example. But with all sorts of multimedia happening through the cloud, that can eat up bandwidth very quickly with perfectly legal data.
I also think its BS if you don't have unlimited data for them to charge extra for tethering. If you are paying for 2GB, shouldn't matter how you use it.
nj02vette
Android Expert
This is why I highly advocate the practice of using a pre-paid credit card for such transactions, or virtual card numbers which some banks are providing now. If your pre-paid card information is hacked, then it's not that big a deal, and no personal information is compromised. If you hook in into your banking account and give them your lifes history, then results could not be so good.
Maybe I'm being overly cautious, but that's the way I handle most online transactions.
And it was at the point of remembering the ugly side of past tethering arguments that mod staff collectively felt a disturbance in the Force.
Carry on, please agree silently in advance to keep it nicely cool.
Carry on, please agree silently in advance to keep it nicely cool.
Medion
Android Expert
They got sued, settled, and stopped. They don't throttle P2P anymore. ISPs want to do it, but they're waiting on the net neutrality suit to flesh out before trying to find ways around it.
FYI, the P2P throttling in Canada is still ongoing, but is being brought to light by nerds. Blizzard's patching software for World of Warcraft is literally bittorrent. We used to call it Blizztorrent because of how slow it was. ISPs are scrambling to hide that they are throttling P2P by un-throttling World of Warcraft, but some just happened to get caught. (cough) Rogers (/cough)
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HanSolo
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Agree 100% with everything you said. The extra tethering charge is a HUGE point of contention between my sister and me. She insists that unlimited data is for "one device only", and that excludes tablets, laptops, tivo, etc. Which I guess is technically true. But my point is if I'm going to be using the laptop in lieu of the phone, but downloading the same material (no torrents, just web browsing and streaming), then it shouldn't matter. It's gotten quite heated at times. Neither of us will budge.
BLD
Android Enthusiast
Actually I believe Comcast stopped doing that. And this concept actually violates Net Neutrality which the FCC just ruled in favor of and our benevolent (insert sarcastic laugh here) Verizon is trying to get overturned.
Descriminating against different types of internet traffic sounds all fine and dandy until they start using it to restrict something that affects you. Don't think for a minute Verizon wouldn't restrict something like Netflix to allow more bandwidth to their own VCast streaming. That kind of thing is why the whole Net Neutrality movement came about in the first place.
burntorangefan
Android Enthusiast
A very good point. I guess you could load a prepaid card over and over like I do my Starbucks card, so at least theft would be limited to the amount on the prepaid card. Or with adequate encryption, could always just stop flashing custom ROMs and rock the base vanilla ICS pushed directly from Google and be happy with it!
rushmore
Extreme Android User
Well, 60GB can be 20ish hours of HD video. Is it so inconceivable that someone would want to stream 1 two hour HD movie a day?
T-Rex Toy Story voice dude
gapi
Android Expert
Medion
Android Expert
I respect all views, but here's my view on tethering. Unlimited data is for one device only. The price for unlimited plans was based largely on what device was going to use them, IE, AT&T's $15 for feature phones, $30 for smartphones, and $50 for laptops (the latter of which was never unlimited, I believe), simply because they didn't expect someone with a Nokia E71x to consume 40GB of data. However, bandwidth usage is growing, and carriers are realizing just how shortsighted they were.
However, there is no excuse, IMO, for tethering plans on tiered data. Absolutely no excuse. You're literally paying for a block of data, and then pay extra when you go over. There should be no per device fee either. Hell, they should be the same for a family plan, $30 for 2GB (Verizon) and $10/GB overage. Believe me, if I tether and hit 4GB, I'll pay for that 4GB!
All of this is hypocritical on my part though, as I have a $10 unlimited grandfathered data plan from Verizon, and I tether for free. To my credit, I try to be responsible. My average monthly usage since singing up is about 1GB, give or take, and I've only ever gone over 2GB once.
huskerkate
Android Enthusiast
true, that has been said.
Not to mention VZW essentially agreed to allow open device use on LTE when they won the spectrum for that. So you are supposed to be able to buy any random device that does WHATEVER with the data and stick a SIM in it and go at it. To me that includes a smartphone that has tether capability you have enabled some way.
They have used lots of PR on openness and general lobbying with the FCC to keep them off their back while they operate as they always did. Not sure I agree with ANY of how the FCC regulates all this stuff, but it is how it is. There really probably needs to be some variety of deregulation to bring more competition, but the more I try and brainstorm what would work best the more it seems it would be a big fiasco no matter what you did. That and companies like Verizon have invested a lot in their network. Just seems that there could be a lot more efficiency in how these companies operate that could turn into way better pricing schemes than we get. Their profit margins really aren't outta hand or anything. Almost wonder if their insistence on not being dumb pipes is a lot of the problem and that a lot of the nonsense lots of us don't want end up losing money in the grand scheme, but budgets are somehow quarantined to make it seem it all makes sense to develop something like VZW Navigator(who still pays for that?). And their brick and mortar stores, how many of those turn profits, and how many are to simply have that local support presence many of us customers could care less about if it meant we got cheaper bills.
gapi
Android Expert
If everyone suddenly had a change of heart and stopped tethering out of contract nothing would change.
If no one had ever tethered out of contract nothing would change.
Verizon would still keep adjusting plans to raise their income in any way they can.
We are in "The good ole days" now.
To blame the loss of unlimited data plans on the tether boys and girls is false. Its just an excuse for Verizon to feel warm and fuzzy about doing it.
If no one had ever tethered out of contract nothing would change.
Verizon would still keep adjusting plans to raise their income in any way they can.
We are in "The good ole days" now.
To blame the loss of unlimited data plans on the tether boys and girls is false. Its just an excuse for Verizon to feel warm and fuzzy about doing it.
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