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OptimusNexus said:
Sorry, I was a little unclear on that. I wasn't refering to it literally cracking a door, but to the example video I'm trying to post being just the beginning of what is possible. In a second when I get this video thing figured out, I'll post of the the ideas I've been thinking about that is kinda what I think you're talking about.
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Oh, I see -- the video is on Vimeo. Your link worked, but I don't think this site supports in-line embedding of that site.

Yeah, that's a neat concept for NFC. In fact, I can see that being a nice way of ordering and paying at the types of restaurants where you stand in line, order, then take your number to a table. A lot of those guys already have the backend MICROS system that would support such a system, but rather than the restaurant providing expensive touchpads to the customer, the customer brings their own hardware. Plus the restaurant can dedicate a bit more space to seating since they won't have to handle the longer queues of customers at peak periods.

Edit: Here's the video you linked to, on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYVl8fDDhbc
 
jerknextdoor said:
I didn't realize this may not be available on the vzw version until yesterday when it was mentioned here. Why is it impossible for one phone/carrier to just ease up and be the best for once?
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Because Verizon has their own competing ISIS payment network. Would be nice if they allowed their users to choose, but guess it won't happen.
 
Anyways, in since this thread is slowing down for a second, I'll continue to expand on my NFC idea. We were playing a game with my family after eating on thanksgiving and how it worked was there was a prompt card that was drawn and everyone writes down their response to the prompt. Then they are all turned into one person who reads them for that round and you go around the circle and guess what response belongs to who. Its a fun game, but the thing that sucked was that you had to reread all the responses all the time because people would forget them when guessing. My idea is to have a Google Tv that has a NFC add on or a future model with it build in be a hub for the game. Players would sync their phones to the GTV with NFC and then each round they would enter their responses into their phones and it would be anonymously displayed on tv to guess. Basically making board games interactive with phones, a tv and the internet. Imagine that apps that would incorporate group activities with a tv and the easy syncing with NFC.
 
OptimusNexus said:
Anyways, in since this thread is slowing down for a second, I'll continue to expand on my NFC idea. We were playing a game with my family after eating on thanksgiving and how it worked was there was a prompt card that was drawn and everyone writes down their response to the prompt. Then they are all turned into one person who reads them for that round and you go around the circle and guess what response belongs to who. Its a fun game, but the thing that sucked was that you had to reread all the responses all the time because people would forget them when guessing. My idea is to have a Google Tv that has a NFC add on or a future model with it build in be a hub for the game. Players would sync their phones to the GTV with NFC and then each round they would enter their responses into their phones and it would be anonymously displayed on tv to guess. Basically making board games interactive with phones, a tv and the internet. Imagine that apps that would incorporate group activities with a tv and the easy syncing with NFC.
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Wouldn't bluetooth or ad-hoc wifi work better? It would be annoying to have to walk up to the TV all of the time.
 
BlueBiker said:
Someone earlier discovered that if you try to install Google Wallet on (Nexus I think) you get an error message that it's not supported on the Verizon carrier. People speculate that devs can find a way to install the app anyway, but I'm not sure it could work w/o Verizon's cooperation.
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I don't think Verizon could maintain this stance for very long. Payments is a whole 'nother industry and there'd be sure to be some sort of anti-trust challenge if the carriers all locked up NFC payment methods other than their own.

But we would be the guinea pigs. One of the pleasures of owning a Nexus device, I suppose?
 
fartsmcgee said:
Wouldn't bluetooth or ad-hoc wifi work better? It would be annoying to have to walk up to the TV all of the time.
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Yes, and in fact that is the way it would work(Wifi or bluetooth). The only thing NFC would do is bring everyone into the same game and "sync" them with the GTV. The problem with stuff like this has been getting people all into the same game without being overly cumbersome. This will be solved with the implementation of NFC
 
speede541 said:
I don't think Verizon could maintain this stance for very long. Payments is a whole 'nother industry and there'd be sure to be some sort of anti-trust challenge if the carriers all locked up NFC payment methods other than their own.

But we would be the guinea pigs. One of the pleasures of owning a Nexus device, I suppose?
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Good questions. First I'd like to see the feds go after eBay's PayPal payment monopoly.
 
OptimusNexus said:
Yes, and in fact that is the way it would work(Wifi or bluetooth). The only this NFC would do is bring everyone into the same game and "sync" them with the GTV. The problem with stuff like this has been getting people all into the same game without being overly cumbersome. This will be solved with the implementation of NFC
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That makes sense. Do you know if NFC can beam to multiple phones at the same time as long as they are all close to each other?
 
fartsmcgee said:
Wouldn't bluetooth or ad-hoc wifi work better? It would be annoying to have to walk up to the TV all of the time.
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It's possible, though one of the current benefits to NFC is the simple swipe -- no pairing required.

Though I do recall reading recently of a Bluetooth standard that would essentially accomplish the same thing, i.e. no pairing, the devices automatically sense the other in proximity and they establish a link with no user input.
 
fartsmcgee said:
That makes sense. Do you know if NFC can beam to multiple phones at the same time as long as they are all close to each other?
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To my knowledge, no its only one at a time. But, in my theoretical app, one person would walk over to the GTV and swipe their phone to perform their sync. Then other people could sync their phones to either the GTV or the first phone that has already joined the game. Once everyone is done joining, you press a done button and start the game.
 
OptimusNexus said:
To my knowledge, no its only one at a time. But, in my theoretical app, one person would walk over to the GTV and swipe their phone to perform their sync. Then other people could sync their phones to either the GTV or the first phone that has already joined the game. Once everyone is done joining, you press a done button and start the game.
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That sounds pretty convenient. How cumbersome is it do get a bunch of people synced with current stuff?
 
Another practical NFC application would be for mass transit.

For starters, I don't ride the bus much, and hate carrying exact change because I never remember what the fare is. So that's one problem solved.

But imagine "tapping in" to whatever you've boarded -- bus, train, light rail, ferry -- and having a route map and/or list of upcoming stops with ETAs automatically pull up (adjusted for by Google Traffic, of course), with real time connections included.

If I have half an hour between the ferry and the train, highlight the nearby coffee shops where I can sit down for a few minutes.
 
fartsmcgee said:
That sounds pretty convenient. How cumbersome is it do get a bunch of people synced with current stuff?
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Depends on a lot of factors, but from a coding and conceptual standpoint it can be a chore and really turn people off to the whole idea. I'll give you an example.

Say you have a bunch of people over to play a game. Everyone wants to play, but some of the older and less tech savvy people don't have the app. So first order of business is helping everyone download the app and set things up on the phone. After this, you have to help them all navigate the menus to the point where you join a game created by a host. Say for this example a number is displayed on the GTV. You have to have all the people get to the part of the app where you enter the number and then get everyone synced and joined into the game. At this point, everyone is probably getting tired of waiting and the experience is somewhat soured before the game has even begun.

Now with NFC, this all becomes much simpler. Everyone with NFC on their phone can just swipe their phone with the GTV or a phone that has joined the game and the app will be automatically downloaded and then the person will be added to the game once the install is complete. Everything is easy and relatively painless... at least in concept
 
Also, think about being able to go to any of your friends houses and being able to swipe your phone against their GTV, TV, Cable box, etc and being able to control the them. (lol I realize this might lead to people to take over each others tv's, but honestly, how many times have you guys gone to one of your friends houses and their doing something and you have to figure out how to run their rig while you wait? Wouldn't it be nice to just swipe and go?)
 
Wow, you're right. The more I think about it, NFC sounds very useful for anything involving synchronization. I can't wait to see what else people come up with. I'm going to sleep now. Good night everybody.
 
To repeat: I'm not contributing any posts just to jack up the count. That would be against site rules, and I wouldn't want bad things to happen.
 
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