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What kind of proof are you looking for?

Eyewitness testimony from R. Kelly's grandma?

A note from Epstein's mother?

Maybe Epstein's mother, but only if she has one hand on the Bible. :D

Guys, keep it light, I'm just trying to add some 'counterpoints' to the 1,000s of rumors that just never pan out. I want it as much as anyone, but I'm not setting myself up time after time for disappointment.
 
Maybe Epstein's mother, but only if she has one hand on the Bible. :D

Guys, keep it light, I'm just trying to add some 'counterpoints' to the 1,000s of rumors that just never pan out. I want it as much as anyone, but I'm not setting myself up time after time for disappointment.

but the thousands of rumors you are referencing all were a leaked document with release dates and not a shot of inventory. I agree that it may not happen but an inventory holds a little more water than leaked docs showing a rumored date since we have seen what 10+ of those all switching dates, with this on the other hand sticking to what it originally said. Not saying to take it as 100% proof because with this launch nothing can be taken that way, it just is a little more solid with it not changing and being retracted every other day.
 
Maybe Epstein's mother, but only if she has one hand on the Bible. :D

Guys, keep it light, I'm just trying to add some 'counterpoints' to the 1,000s of rumors that just never pan out. I want it as much as anyone, but I'm not setting myself up time after time for disappointment.

I can't keep it much lighter than references to Welcome Back Kotter and Dave Chappelle. ;)
 
Off-topic CarrierIQ stuff:

Speaking of Phil Nickinson, he just posted a great article that simply lists what CIQ is, what it does, and why it might be an issue. It's a great read for anyone who is somewhat confused or hasn't heard of this stuff until now.

CarrierIQ -- a Q&A
 
That's impossible.

I know it goes against popular thinking, but most theorists are idiots. If they don't understand something, they always assume it's random. That's like a child saying that food just randomly appears on the table, because there's no way that his dad leaving for 8 hours per day has anything to do with it. :eek:

End of mini-rant.

It is not impossible. It is highly improbably.

Let us use a quick argument that can scale. I want a monkey to produce a 10,000 character string. Assume I give the monkey a keyboard with only letters/shift key. Thus, he has 52 choices for each space (each letter and its capital version).

So, the probability of him making the string on any given 10k letter run is
P(10k string == my string) = (1/52)^10000 = (1.923*10^-2)^10000. It is tiny. Almost all calculators will round it down to zero. But in reality it is not zero. So what we are saying is that given 1/P(10k string == my string) tries (again, just very large, NOT infinite), this monkey has a really good chance of coming up with my 10k character string.

Since 1/P(10k string == my string) is large but still < infinity, given infinite monkeys and infinite time (or just one monkey and infinite time, but I think we all like the idea of infinite monkeys :p ), my string will be typed by a random coincidence.

The same scales for the Bibile, Shakespeare, whatever.

-Nkk
 
Off-topic CarrierIQ stuff:

Speaking of Phil Nickinson, he just posted a great article that simply lists what CIQ is, what it does, and why it might be an issue. It's a great read for anyone who is somewhat confused or hasn't heard of this stuff until now.

CarrierIQ -- a Q&A

I saw that article but haven't taken the time to read it. It's been an interesting topic lately.

And now I'm going to try and avoid getting into really deep philosphy about technology and how it's not a privacy issue people would be worried about but tech as a whole, yada-yada.
 
It is not impossible. It is highly improbably.

Let us use a quick argument that can scale. I want a monkey to produce a 10,000 character string. Assume I give the monkey a keyboard with only letters/shift key. Thus, he has 52 choices for each space (each letter and its capital version).

So, the probability of him making the string on any given 10k letter run is
P(10k string == my string) = (1/52)^10000 = (1.923*10^-2)^10000. It is tiny. Almost all calculators will round it down to zero. But in reality it is not zero. So what we are saying is that given 1/P(10k string == my string) tries (again, just very large, NOT infinite), this monkey has a really good chance of coming up with my 10k character string.

Since 1/P(10k string == my string) is large but still < infinity, given infinite monkeys and infinite time (or just one monkey and infinite time, but I think we all like the idea of infinite monkeys :p ), my string will be typed by a random coincidence.

The same scales for the Bibile, Shakespeare, whatever.

-Nkk


nice!

I'm glad someone was able to tackle that from a scientific standpoint, I could only address the philosophical angle. Nicely done. Very impressive.
 
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So has anyone tried calling their local VZW Corporate store to see if they confirm what that guy said about having his 'put aside' for Friday?

I plan to do that later today.
 
Maybe Epstein's mother, but only if she has one hand on the Bible. :D

Guys, keep it light, I'm just trying to add some 'counterpoints' to the 1,000s of rumors that just never pan out. I want it as much as anyone, but I'm not setting myself up time after time for disappointment.

Personally, I would rather be upbeat and optimistic with the stronger rumors and revel in joyous :D anticipation, even knowing that disappointment may follow. For every date that proved wrong there was another to latch onto. For me, that approach is much more fun than constant skepticism and expecting only disappointment. But I understand that some would rather avoid the highs and lows. To each his/her own.:)
 
So has anyone tried calling their local VZW Corporate store to see if they confirm what that guy said about having his 'put aside' for Friday?

I plan to do that later today.

I will be calling about six stores later today when not in earshot of my wife so that I don't have to listen to her whining. :o
 
nice!

I'm glad someone was able to tackle that from a scientific standpoint, I could only address the philosophical angle. Nicely done. Very impressive.

Thanks. I have taken a quantum physics course of two, and if there ever existed statistics that were absurd but somehow correct, it is in quantum phys.

Have you ever tackled quantum with your philosophical perspective? It is hard, but sort of rewarding. Our professor did it in class for one day (sort of a break of all the math day), and it was interesting. We only had 50 min, so we got very little accomplished, but it brought up a lot of good questions.

-Nkk
 
I tend not to buy too much into the rumor mill and try to stay patient but I did call the local corporate Verizon store of where I am on business travel (Melbourne FL) and the gentleman I spoke with stated off the top of his head that "they" expect the phone to be here Friday.

One thing I would note from this is that maybe a few folks have had the same question considering he answered mine almost immediately. Or he is also expecting it.

The usual disclaimer in that Excrement Happens, but it is another notch on the belt for the hopeful.
 
I will be calling about six stores later today when not in earshot of my wife so that I don't have to listen to her whining. :o

Just so you guys know, I went over to AC and read through that thread and nobody was able to get a similar response or confirmation from their stores.

Why am I not surprised? It's just more confirmation of what I've been saying. Hell, even the OP that said he got a phone call seems to be having some doubts and said something like "well if I get there and they don't have a phone for me I better get something out of it".

When I see em, I'll believe it. :rolleyes:
 
So has anyone tried calling their local VZW Corporate store to see if they confirm what that guy said about having his 'put aside' for Friday?

I plan to do that later today.

I called mine....I don't like to play games so I just asked straight out. "Don't know VZW hasn't made anything official yet" is what I got.
 
Maybe Epstein's mother, but only if she has one hand on the Bible. :D

Guys, keep it light, I'm just trying to add some 'counterpoints' to the 1,000s of rumors that just never pan out. I want it as much as anyone, but I'm not setting myself up time after time for disappointment.

Here is why you are getting some push back on your many many "counterpoint" posts recently, you seem convinced that all rumors are false and all sources are fake and IF that is your opinion and you choose not to allow YOURSELF to be disappointed then we support your opinion and position.

But the fact is your "counterpoint" posts are attempting to sway others to join in on your opinion or position, why do you care if others believe all of the rumored release or pre-release dates, why would you care if we believe a source or two based on past creditable information?

Maybe you should take a step back and allow those members their opinion even if they differ from your own. :D
 
Because of touchwiz and with the international versions it has the center button(which looks nothing like what apple has) Did you see the list of changes samsung could make that apple gave them? Apple Offered Some Helpful Suggestions to Samsung for Avoiding Patent Issues
Read that for a good laugh and see how arrogant apple really is.


This is about all that's left over if Samsung follows that list:
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At least until Apple patents 3 vertices in consumer electronics.
 
Here is why you are getting some push back on your many many "counterpoint" posts recently, you seem convinced that all rumors are false and all sources are fake and IF that is your opinion and you choose not to allow YOURSELF to be disappointed then we support your opinion and position.

But the fact is your "counterpoint" posts are attempting to sway others to join in on your opinion or position, why do you care if others believe all of the rumored release or pre-release dates, why would you care if we believe a source or two based on past creditable information?

Maybe you should take a step back and allow those members their opinion even if they differ from your own. :D
EVERYONE needs to take a step back and lighten up! Ken has just ben jaded too many times and he is sceptical. I dont blame him. Its just his opinion. No big deal.:D
 
I saw that article but haven't taken the time to read it. It's been an interesting topic lately.

And now I'm going to try and avoid getting into really deep philosphy about technology and how it's not a privacy issue people would be worried about but tech as a whole, yada-yada.

Totally agree. I mean, I've seen articles where people are all crying foul that "omg, my carrier can see my phone calls?! They can see my text messages?!" Well...no shit. Not only can they see your phone calls, but they will actually MAIL them in a list format to you at the end of every billing cycle! Sometimes people don't think before they say anything...

I will say though that some companies take it a bit too far. The issue isnt with the carrier seeing what you are doing, the issue is how unsecured the logs are kept in the way that almost any app can access them since they are unencrypted with loose permissions. This is also why I left Facebook a few months ago, it just got to be too much to manage and way too open with no way of changing settings. But that's a different topic.
 
EVERYONE needs to take a step back and lighten up! Ken has just ben jaded too many times and he is sceptical. I dont blame him. Its just his opinion. No big deal.:D


As AF Turns, another week in the saga of this thread. If by chance it doesn't show this week we will all wish we were more like Ken and if it does we will all be saying 'Take that Ken, no you can't touch it'.
 
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