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***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

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People keep saying that Verizon has done nothing wrong. If by "wrong", you mean something "morally wrong", or if you mean "against the rules", then I agree with you, Verizon has done nothing wrong.

However, I would definitely say that they have been unreasonable. I have been a paying customer for 10+ years (holy sh#@ I can't believe it has been that long). Not that that really means anything, but you think they would do their best to take care of such a loyal customer.

For example, consider the following scenario:

You ask your friend if s/he would like to get dinner this week. S/he tells you that s/he can, but s/he has a very busy week. On Tuesday, you realize that you will be free for dinner on Friday. You want until Friday morning to tell your friend.

Did you do something wrong? Of course not.

Were you unreasonable letting your friend, who said they were very busy, know the morning of the day you could go to dinner, that that would be the day (even though you knew days in advance)? I would argue yes.

Just wanted to throw that out their.

Do I believe Verizon has done something wrong? Again, it depends how you define "wrong". Do I believe Verizon has been unreasonable? Yes.
 
statepenn03 said:
I'm assuming there's at least a few people here that have 4G/LTE phones right? Can you confirm or deny the LTE problems in your area? Could engadget/droid-life/phandroid/someone start a poll to see how many people might be affected so we can get an idea of how widespread the issue is?
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I am in Northern VA. I lost 4g yesterday in the late afternoon/early evening here on my TB. Still don't have it now..
 
thenew3 said:
Ok here's an experiment I just did to test 4G issues.

History: My bionic lost 4G connection late last night, and has spotty 3G connection. voice calls work fine. Phone is a personal phone, purchased on 9/8 in Centra CA.
My Samsung 4G mifi has a solid 4G connection sitting next to my bionic. Device was purchased early this year on a corporate account in Central Texas.

Experiment: swap sim cards!
So I took the sim card from the mifi and installed it in my bionic, booted up, bam, within seconds, strong 4G connection. ran a bunch of speed tests, and loaded up a bunch of web sites, updated about a dozen apps. no problems for the 10 minutes I let it run.
Next, took the SIM that came with my bionic and installed it in the samsung mifi, powered it up, no 3g or 4g, searching constantly, over a 10 minute period it was able to get onto 3g for a short periods of time (20 seconds or so) a few times, but couldn't maintain connection.

Next put the SIM that came with the samsung back in it. Instant 4G connection.
Put the SIM that came with my bionic back in the bionic, no data signal, voice works fine.

So it sounds like there are some really strange 4G issues (seems to be tied to particular sim card(s)?

Just thought it was interesting enough to share.
BTW in the few minutes it took me to type this, my bionic has gone from no data to 1x to 3g and back to no data about a dozen times.
the samsung mifi still shows strong 4G connection.
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Yes. I already stated this in my earlier post.

It is not a galaxy issue. It's a sim card issue.
 
They are holding off the release so they can go through this thread and fire the people at the locations given out here in this thread from everyone calling and bugging the CSRs for information. Considering the big V never announced it the employees with loose lips could be in trouble.
 
akellar said:
You can't pick and chose which rumors you want to believe. Everything we have so far is rumor or information from a CSR. Which is the same place that the delay information is coming from. If you believed the 9th why would you not believe that it's now delayed? Same source for both. The same store reps that were saying the 9th are now saying it won't be the 9th and they don't know when.
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I know this is not what you meant, but the first thing that popped into my head when I read this was "great...since I believed GNex rumors, now I have to believe Hitler lives in the New York sewers along with an army of mutant alligators".

:rolleyes:

-Nkk
 
JRowMe said:
where's this info that the nexus has lte issues coming from?
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No info - just a rumor explosion that spread across various forums, feeding back and forth.

Had there been an LTE issue with the VZW version of the Nexus, that would have been tweeted by the various sources who have been testing them long ago.

Didn't happen - Nexus has no LTE issues, mark my words on that. ;) :)
 
TKEnzy said:
Not sure if this has been posted or not, but Verizon is finally starting to get negative press outside of the tech community for this launch fiasco. Ad Age recently published an article about how the secrecy around the launch is hurting their brand, customer loyalty, image, things like that. It's good to see other industries piling on - maybe with more people taking on the cause Verizon will come to their senses and at least break silence.

How Verizon Wireless Is Alienating The High-Income, Tech-Savvy Consumer It Worked So Hard to Attract | DigitalNext: A Blog on Emerging Media and Technology - Advertising Age

BTW - next week now? Really? And LTE issues? This keeps getting better and better.
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Im high-income and tech-savy? Good to know.

And at this point, without any official confirmation other than before the end of the year, we will be lucky if it comes out next week.
 
nkk said:
I know this is not what you meant, but the first thing that popped into my head when I read this was "great...since I believed GNex rumors, now I have to believe Hitler lives in the New York sewers along with an army of mutant alligators".

:rolleyes:

-Nkk
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Not true. It's DC, not NY.
 
tluley51 said:
Droid Life
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not sure how that says the lte problems are device specific to the nexus...?
seems like it's saying there's an outage on vzw's network...
which again would be carrier related.

but my post wasn't talking about this, I was saying if it wasn't this and there was a major problem in the phone how could vzw not see this after testing for so long?
 
vandyman said:
Like I said, LTE rumors were BS.
VZW has other phones that will have the same problems as the Nexus on LTE.
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I will respectfully disagree. Releasing another phone(s) after pushing so many 4g's recently and discovering some potentially big issues in their 'best network' tarnishes their whole image. This is their slogan afterall, 'most reliable, world's largest' and the such over the last year or so. Anything that shows otherwise tarnishes their image. Bionic and Razor have confirmed issues w/ 4g/3g but those phones were released and more then likely leading to issues being discovered.

We can all agree any negative press that tarnishes VZW image is promptly replied to so it stands to reason them trying to keep a cap on any potential issue. This 4G issue overshadows any 'missed' release date of the GN and you can bet your lunch money the 4G is dominating the exec office conversations today.

Who knows what happened. Maybe they pushed updates to their LTE system in the last few days thinking it would solve the problems they have been experiencing after all that is a lot easier to do then have Moto, HTC, and Samsung write radio fixes for each of their pieces of hardware.

I am just saying to say the LTE issue is not the reason for delay is more of a jump then what I am saying 'the LTE is the delay'.
 
I know I'm probably late to the party, but FWIW, I just spoke with the corporate store where I have the appointment this week to get my GN. He said it was definitely scheduled for release for the 9th, but was delayed for an undetermined amount of time.
 
EarlyMon said:
No info - just a rumor explosion that spread across various forums, feeding back and forth.

Had there been an LTE issue with the VZW version of the Nexus, that would have been tweeted by the various sources who have been testing them long ago.

Didn't happen - Nexus has no LTE issues, mark my words on that. ;) :)
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exactly, no idea where the guy replying to my post is getting that conclusion...
 
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