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***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

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Good Morning Gnexers!

Well, the Chief was in class all day yesterday UGH and I missed a whole bunch of posts!

SO whats new besides Google Wallet being the delay? :confused:

Not that I care about it... there's only a handful of gas stations anywhere around me that use that payment system and I don't use them :rolleyes:

TIA

Not mucho. A nice shot of a case of GN's behind a glass case in a store is about it.

As for the wallet, you bring up a point with me with the gas stations. I would have to choose if I want to dig out my wallet and card or pull my phone from the cradle and bang it against the pump.

As for the Google boys video commercial for Gwallet where they toss the wallet out the window as to make a suggestion it will no longer be needed...... Gwallet will not work if and when I need to show my Drivers or PI license, Carry permits and ...........

We Wait.........
 
WRT reception, I feel the bars report low. The GNex seems to have reception on par with the OG Droid despite seldom reporting more than 2 bars. I live in a rural area and drive thru farm land, so I guess I'd say its fine in weaker areas.

I think the camera is fine. It won't replace a real camera, but I don't think its realistic to expect it to. It's leagues better than the OG. Leagues.

GPS is outstanding. More accurate and faster lock than the OG.

THE PHONE GETS HOT. I think this is gonna be a source for much complaints from casual users. I'm quite used to it coming from a highly overclocked OG, but many people are not. The screen dissipates at least half the total heat, which is new to me. I think the major contributor is the 4G radio.

What area of the country do you live in? (farmland is why I ask)
 
lol now everyone is worrying about updates?!

Yes, and I think with good reason. In the past, everyone has gotten Nexus updates all at the same time. One of the reasons a lot of people were excited about this device is that it would give them the most cutting-edge Android perpetually, out of the box. Yes, you could root and unlock it, but you could already do that with many device (albeit with more effort). This would give you updates as they arrived, straight from Google. At least, even if never explicitly stated by Google, that was the tradition.

As your cited article pointed out, this likely did involve some behind-the-scenes testing. So, no, the updates didn't bypass the carriers per se; the carriers just didn't really get the way. Because the carriers interfered so little that it didn't matter, I think most people didn't think they were involved at all. Maybe that was naive of them, but it was likely the case. This, however, is Verizon. As Motorola recently told us, they notoriously take 2-3 months to approve any update to any device. Google isn't going to wait that long. They are going to release the GSM update, and then let VZW continue testing the LTE version. That is going to leave buyers of the Nexus with a version of Android that is at least 2 months behind the cutting edge, which was the main reason a lot of us wanted this device, despite knowing that quad-core is just around the corner. So, with an article containing a quote that indicates that not only are we likely to get delayed, but even some GSM owners are getting delayed as well... is it reasonable for us to get upset that the straight-from-Google update tradition is now gone? I think so.

TL;DR: Updates were one of the main reasons a lot of us wanted this phone, and at least for stock, that seems to be slipping away. I think that's a reasonable thing to get upset about.
 
Hey Cggorman, congrats on getting a Nexus early! I was wondering which area of the U.S. you were able to snag one if you don't mind telling. Thanks in advance
 
In jersey we don't pump our own gas, (let's get the joke out of the way: We pump our fists) so I definitely do not want the gas station worker to be putting those mechanic hands on my GN!!!
Not mucho. A nice shot of a case of GN's behind a glass case in a store is about it.

As for the wallet, you bring up a point with me with the gas stations. I would have to choose if I want to dig out my wallet and card or pull my phone from the cradle and bang it against the pump.

As for the Google boys video commercial for Gwallet where they toss the wallet out the window as to make a suggestion it will no longer be needed...... Gwallet will not work if and when I need to show my Drivers or PI license, Carry permits and ...........

We Wait.........
 
TL;DR: Updates were one of the main reasons a lot of us wanted this phone, and at least for stock, that seems to be slipping away. I think that's a reasonable thing to get upset about.

Then you should lean heavily on the Devs, all they have to do is compile the update and see what changed and make their own update for the phone, regardless of GSM or CDMA-LTE.

Now we are just mourning spilled milk.
 
If your friend can pick you up a $10 Costco gift card before the 15th, you can use that like a "guest pass" if you use it to pay for part of the total at the register.

At least that's how they did it a few months ago, according to a friend. It's worth a shot, probably.


I inquired extensively and with explicitly about a guest pass at my local Costco yesterday and you cannot buy anything unless you are signed up......

You can walk around and look but have to sign up as a member to purchase. The register will not ring you up unless you have a membership card. Period. You cannot use the gift card like a guest pass. It's just an incentive for you to sign up. Sign up today and get $10.00 off.
 
Would you please elaborate? I keep reading things along this line and it makes me wonder if this is even the best choice for me. I'm NOT a tech person. I can't tell you how many times dh has had to help me out with my computer. He's not a phone guy has never helped me with my DX, although I've never really needed any help. But is the GN going to be harder for people like me to use? He would never let me hear the end of it if I bought it and couldn't figure out how to use it. Do you think the Rezound is a better choice for the average consumer?

I think the ReZound or even the (shudder) Razr is a better choice for a non-tech user. Please understand, the Nexus (all of them) are Pure Google experieince, you don't have apps that hold your hand like on most phones (yes I know, bloat, bloat).

Think of it this way - if you were going to buy a new computer, would you want Windows 7 on it, or the newest, bleeding edge version of Windows 8 which you've never seen? Of course a computer nerd wants the latest and the greatest - figuring out the new software and learning how to use is part of the fun!!!

For a normal person, who wants, new, fast easy, and it just works....... bleeding edge ain't so great! This is the FIRST phone with the new version of Android. The phone has no buttons on it at all. Here is an example:

When you are at the home screen, and want to go into settings, you do this:

Hit the MENU button
Choose settings
Change whatever you need to change.

It was like that in Android 1.6, 2.0, 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, etc, etc - you hit that sequence without even THINKING about it.

You CANT do that in ICS and on the Nexus - there is no menu button - the way you interface with the phone is DIFFERENT now......

Is it better? Is it worse? Google thinks it's better, that's why they changed it, but the bottom line is, you will be learing a new way of interacting with your phone.

For some people, that IS the biggest selling point! For others, it wil be a huge PITA.

I'm not trying to scare you away from the Nexus, just know going in that its gonna be a like a new car, and when you go to hit the cruise control, you are gonna accidentally turn on the windshield wipers a few times before you learn the new layout and controls........

Hope this helps you decide.
 
It isn't illegal per say, but it does violate some FCC regs to lock the phone. The loop hole for any carrier is that they must maintain a level of "reasonable" network management..

How do you quantify "reasonable" in this situation.. Well thats up to the lawyers..

I think you're referring to the C-block (LTE) spectrum auction rules on open network access. All those say is that VZW can't block or restrict an app from running on the network. Most literally, this would mean that they can't perform network packet filtering based on originating app. It remains to be seen whether or not that will be interpreted figuratively as well (e.g., strong-arming Google to remove Wallet as terms for accepting the Nexus).

These only apply to Verizon themselves, as the carrier. If the manufacturer wants to build a phone with a locked bootloader (i.e., if they want to build the phone in such a way that it only allows one version of the OS on-board), then they are free to do so. They didn't buy the C-block spectrum, and are thus not bound by the auction rules.
 
]I think the ReZound or even the (shudder) Razr is a better choice for a non-tech user. Please understand, the Nexus (all of them) are Pure Google experieince, you don't have apps that hold your hand like on most phones (yes I know, bloat, bloat).

Think of it this way - if you were going to buy a new computer, would you want Windows 7 on it, or the newest, bleeding edge version of Windows 8 which you've never seen? Of course a computer nerd wants the latest and the greatest - figuring out the new software and learning how to use is part of the fun!!!

For a normal person, who wants, new, fast easy, and it just works....... bleeding edge ain't so great! This is the FIRST phone with the new version of Android. The phone has no buttons on it at all. Here is an example:

When you are at the home screen, and want to go into settings, you do this:

Hit the MENU button
Choose settings
Change whatever you need to change.

It was like that in Android 1.6, 2.0, 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, etc, etc - you hit that sequence without even THINKING about it.

You CANT do that in ICS and on the Nexus - there is no menu button - the way you interface with the phone is DIFFERENT now......

Is it better? Is it worse? Google thinks it's better, that's why they changed it, but the bottom line is, you will be learing a new way of interacting with your phone.

For some people, that IS the biggest selling point! For others, it wil be a huge PITA[/spoiler].

I'm not trying to scare you away from the Nexus, just know going in that its gonna be a like a new car, and when you go to hit the cruise control, you are gonna accidentally turn on the windshield wipers a few times before you learn the new layout and controls........

Hope this helps you decide.

I love your analogy!
 
WRT reception, I feel the bars report low. The GNex seems to have reception on par with the OG Droid despite seldom reporting more than 2 bars. I live in a rural area and drive thru farm land, so I guess I'd say its fine in weaker areas.

I think the camera is fine. It won't replace a real camera, but I don't think its realistic to expect it to. It's leagues better than the OG. Leagues.

GPS is outstanding. More accurate and faster lock than the OG.

THE PHONE GETS HOT. I think this is gonna be a source for much complaints from casual users. I'm quite used to it coming from a highly overclocked OG, but many people are not. The screen dissipates at least half the total heat, which is new to me. I think the major contributor is the 4G radio.

Are you on 4g though? Saying farm land just curious if u get 4g and wondering about 4g radio...

And by hot can you get temp? How hot is it? my rezound is constantly in the 115's and have reached 140 before.

Thanks. Just really wanna no if 4g radio is good. The rezounds is excellent
 
Well, since i got a welcome email from both verizon and google, i guess i might as well come out of hiding....
I'm the lucky guy that got a non-corp store to sell him a GNex.

Thanks!

I know I will see soon enough but your thought on the volume levels of the external speaker with ring tones and speaker phone PleasE?
 
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