creektrails
Newbie
Have this issue about once every two weeks. Not a big deal though since the reboot take all of what? 30 seconds. Not too shabby for a mini computer.
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Would you buy one again (Verizon version)?
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Have this issue about once every two weeks. Not a big deal though since the reboot take all of what? 30 seconds. Not too shabby for a mini computer.
Do iPhones have problems getting updates on Verizon?
RichSz
Not Entitled
I see where you're going with this and agree. However, Apple wears the pants in the mobile family and can do pretty much whatever they want. Google has far less power in that arena and has to play nice with the carriers.
AntimonyER
CHANGED FROM AF ADDICT MIKESTONY
1. There are only two parties, instead of 3 with android.
2. Verizon sold its soul to get the iPhone. No Verizon software pre-loaded at all.
3. Apples development cycle is slower, and less ambitious than Android. So updates are easier.
OfTheDamned
The Friendly Undead
What everyone else said and last time I checked the iOS 5 was downloaded from iTunes. Hard for Verizon to stop or have anything to do with iTunes.
They started it with the Thunderbolt, but didn't advertise it cause it's only available in 4G coverage areas, and at that time there weren't many of them.
Tim K
Android Expert
My guess is that Apple has to get the cdma keys authorized just like Samsung does. However with Apple my guess is that they don't roll out any updates to any iphones until they get the authorization from Verizon.... plus they only update the os once a year on what, 3 total devices? So its ,such easier to manage for both apple and Verizon I would imagine. Or its possible apple rolls out firmware updates separately that cover radios for Verizon.
trophynuts
Extreme Android User
not to mention people aren't starving for updates on Iphones just to get their phone to be a phone.
coreybiller
Lurker
I started out with a Nexus for about a month. I found a good deal on a Razr Maxx on craigslist and bought it. It took about a week for me to go back to my Nexus. The battery on the razr was insane but I missed the multi-tasking of ics and the look and feel of the nexus. It may not be built of Kevlar and aluminium like the razr but it is much more comfortable to hold. The screen on the razr was awful as well. Just my 2 cents. Hope it helps.
Funny this thread pops up when i am asking myself this very question. I would say not on Verizon. I understand I got a new phone the first with ICS and would have issues from the get go, that is expected for any new version of Android it can't be perfect for everyone.
BUT what the heck is up with waiting endlessly for updates? As someone who does not plan on rooting I was under the misguided impression that i would get the Nexus experience i.e. new android version and fast updates direct from Google not this backwards ridiculousness going on with Verizon.
Honestly i should have seen this coming considering the lack of ads for the GNEX on Verizon. I honestly would have waited and if possible left Verizon for a different carrier and gotten the phone then.
BUT what the heck is up with waiting endlessly for updates? As someone who does not plan on rooting I was under the misguided impression that i would get the Nexus experience i.e. new android version and fast updates direct from Google not this backwards ridiculousness going on with Verizon.
Honestly i should have seen this coming considering the lack of ads for the GNEX on Verizon. I honestly would have waited and if possible left Verizon for a different carrier and gotten the phone then.
lennydude
Android Expert
I also was one of those folks that did the waiting game and added to the biggest thread in AF history
I am also one of those folks that returned the phone 4 days after getting it almost in tears. It wouldn't even get a signal at my work of home, 3G, or wifi, nothing
Does anyone have experience or know of anyone who is using the GSM version? My contract with VZW is up and i will never sign another with any carrier. 2 years is insane! After all, it isn't a car for crying out loud!
I want to buy the Gnex from Google and put it on ATT or somewhere else without a contract.
Anyone know about this?
I am also one of those folks that returned the phone 4 days after getting it almost in tears. It wouldn't even get a signal at my work of home, 3G, or wifi, nothing
Does anyone have experience or know of anyone who is using the GSM version? My contract with VZW is up and i will never sign another with any carrier. 2 years is insane! After all, it isn't a car for crying out loud!
I want to buy the Gnex from Google and put it on ATT or somewhere else without a contract.
Anyone know about this?
Tim K
Android Expert
Google's a big company, it's time for them to start exercising their clout and really "own" a Google phone.
Clearly, there's a market for it.
mrspeedmaster
Android Expert
No, I would not buy a Galaxy Nexus (again).
I'd get a GS3. I don't care for "Google experience devices" as my Samsung Galaxy Tab has shown that a Samsung experience device can perform or exceed a "vanilla" Google device.
Plus the battery is beyond horrible. I figure the GS3 has fixed many of these problems.
I'd get a GS3. I don't care for "Google experience devices" as my Samsung Galaxy Tab has shown that a Samsung experience device can perform or exceed a "vanilla" Google device.
Plus the battery is beyond horrible. I figure the GS3 has fixed many of these problems.
jkc120
Android Expert
Don't care for is entirely personal preference and that's totally your opinion and I respect that, so that's a valid reason IMHO, though I'm curious why playing with the phone first didn't make you realize you didn't want vanilla android?
As to the "perform or exceed", I have never owned a non-nexus Samsung device, but I can tell you with absolute certainty that the Motorola and HTC VZW devices I have played with are by NO means close to performance to the Nexus. Granted it's not an apples to apples hardware comparison, but the amount of lag out of the box on the HTC Rezound and Moto RAZR were much worse than the Nexus from the units I've played with. Case in point the notification pull-down on the Rezound is horribly laggy compared to the Nexus (stock) and much more so than a ROM'd Nexus.
I have excellent battery life. I'm not sure if you're doing something differently or just in a bad signal area or what, but I can easily get 2+ hours of screen time and 2 full days of moderate usage out of the phone. It's a big screen and it uses power. I don't see any reason why the SGSIII would be able to reduce the #1 power consumer on the phone - the display.
zerocool79346
Android Expert
I waited approx. 36 hours. I've been running 4.0.4 for nearly 2 months. The deal with this phone, unlike Moto and HTC, it is completely YOUR choice whether or not you wait on them. Wouldn't trade it.
trophynuts
Extreme Android User
If I could go back in time, I would have stuck with my Rezound as opposed to foregoing for the Nexus. Primarily because I had much better data signal and I prefered the camera on the Rezound.
With that said, it comes down to personal preference. I am not knocking the Nexus. I simply don't use it for many of its great stengths such as rooting, romming, developer support, etc. I put more preference than many on the camera quality and I live in a strictly 3G area where the Rezound outperformed the Nexus.
With that said, it comes down to personal preference. I am not knocking the Nexus. I simply don't use it for many of its great stengths such as rooting, romming, developer support, etc. I put more preference than many on the camera quality and I live in a strictly 3G area where the Rezound outperformed the Nexus.
OfTheDamned
The Friendly Undead
I can see the posts to follow after that happens.
"Google is acting like Apple, I'm outta here!"
"What is this the new iPhone?!!? Who does Google think they are?"
"What happened to open source?"
They are different companies with different philosophies about how to do business. Google isn't about to act like that anymore than they are going to force HTC to stop putting sense on the phones. Besides, Google doesn't really want to own a phone. They may do something like that with Motorola later, but unlike Apple they have a bunch of companies that they partner with and really don't want to piss them off. What would Google do if HTC and Samsung decided to drop Android? LG, Sony and Motorola aren't going to pick up that slack.
I'm not sure what Google "owning" a phone would change about the update process on Verizon anyway. Sure they'd own the phone, but they aren't going to buy a carrier too. OTA updates in the US get delayed by carriers not manufacturers or OS developers. As long as they want to do things OTA instead of through a system like iTunes or Kies you will see these delays in the US. Even if they decided to change everything and make updates downloadable from the play store, it won't change the fact that Verizon is in control of the CDMA and LTE parts of the phone. The firmware for the radios has to go through them. They have to test it. Did you see what happened to the last update where that didn't happen? GSM users started having radio trouble and a second update had to be sent out. You think people get upset about updates now? Wait until one total fubars the phone's connection and see how upset they get.
trophynuts
Extreme Android User
That is a good point OTD
If your HTC and all of a sudden you see Google saying "hey we're making our own phones now blah blah and they're the best" i would take offense to that as HTC.
If your HTC and all of a sudden you see Google saying "hey we're making our own phones now blah blah and they're the best" i would take offense to that as HTC.
Riverpilot
Member
Actually, I do blame both parties equally. Google needs to man up and take control of a supposed pure google phone. This is where Apple is miles (years?) ahead of google, and most likely will always be. Even on the GSM nexus phones, updates haven't been coming out as quickly as they were hinting at. If I could remember where I read/saw it, I would almost say they were touting monthly if not weekly updates. Meh... doesn't matter. Google has completely screwed up on this. :captain:
As for future phones? I'm done with nexus phones. I'm even to the point of looking at an iphone. :shivers:
If they can come out with a 4.2" phone, ya... I'd think about switching. Especially now that updates are OTA.
OfTheDamned
The Friendly Undead
Actually, I do blame both parties equally. Google needs to man up and take control of a supposed pure google phone. This is where Apple is miles (years?) ahead of google, and most likely will always be. Even on the GSM nexus phones, updates haven't been coming out as quickly as they were hinting at. If I could remember where I read/saw it, I would almost say they were touting monthly if not weekly updates. Meh... doesn't matter. Google has completely screwed up on this. :captain:
As for future phones? I'm done with nexus phones. I'm even to the point of looking at an iphone. :shivers:
That's the thing though, is it a pure Google phone? It has Samsung and Verizon written all over it. Mine doesn't even have Google written anywhere on it. Developer phone? Yes. Pure Google? I'm not sure I'd call it that. Google experience? Yes, I'd say that.
The monthly update myth is just that, a myth. I'm not doubting that you read it someplace, but Google hasn't ever come out touting update times to my recollection. I don't remember a phone ever getting updates that quickly, especially here in the US. People need to get the CM nightly concept out of their head. Even if they did plan to update once a month, would you want something that is broken?
As far as updates go for Apple, they release about one a year with the exception of maintenance stuff. Even then, they typically aren't dealing with CDMA firmware and nothing involving LTE. That said, if you'd be happier with an iPhone I'd say go for it.
Demache
Android Expert
Actually, I do blame both parties equally. Google needs to man up and take control of a supposed pure google phone. This is where Apple is miles (years?) ahead of google, and most likely will always be. Even on the GSM nexus phones, updates haven't been coming out as quickly as they were hinting at. If I could remember where I read/saw it, I would almost say they were touting monthly if not weekly updates. Meh... doesn't matter. Google has completely screwed up on this. :captain:
As for future phones? I'm done with nexus phones. I'm even to the point of looking at an iphone. :shivers:
My intent on buying a Nexus is that I can safely say that I will never worry about Verizon or Samsung disabling my ability to root and use the device as I please, which is not the case on other phone, where manufacturers often lock bootloaders and otherwise break such support. And that's it. I didn't expect updates to come any faster (just that they weren't loaded with bloat).
Also, if you want regular consistent updates, why not go root? Devs are often very dedicated to their work and since there are no such thing as carrier or manufacturer checks, or OTA updates, you get the updates right away as soon as the dev feels they are ready for release. And in those cases, you get the monthly and even weekly updates you are looking for.
Of course, you will probably say "why should I need to root?" and that's a fair argument. But lets be honest here, only a handful of Android devices actually even have official ICS support believe it or not. That's after 6 months since the Nexus was released. The devices that aren't supported by ICS? You need to root and flash an ICS ROM. Sometimes you got to be a little more active in getting your way.
red66charger
Android Expert
^^^^ and there's that...
zerocool79346
Android Expert
I'm not really sure how that makes any difference. It was absolutely identical to the original OTA that went out to the GSM Nexus, right down to the build number. The only thing the next update after it patched was a radio issue with the GSM phone, thus I've basically been running the "official" 4.0.4 since early-mid February. My original point still stands, I've ran 4.0.3 since December because I have that choice, a choice I wouldn't have on a Motorola or HTC phone.
Mark my words, outside of the Nexus and possibly the GS3 (depends on how hard Verizon strong arms Samsung, if they even carry it) you will not see another S-OFF device on Verizon. And no the Rezound doesn't count, either with the HTC method (fake S-OFF) or the new ridiculous hardware method.