***Official HTC Incredible Thread***

[Sigmund Droid]

Bottom line is the Incredible has the goods to kick the iPhone in the stones (and it most likely will). But for now the common person is gonna go after the iPhone if it is available. If Apple wants to increase USA sales big time and try to steal some love from Android it would release it on Verizon. PLUS, that would probably cost them less $$ than chasing after HTC and Android. You have to remember, the average person isn't sick in the head like us Android Forum Members lol

Would I chose the iPhone over the Incredible given what I know about both? That's a good question as both have their pluses and minuses. Because I consider myself an early adopter and prefer to go somewhat against the grain, I would probably choose the Incredible. Not to mention I really don't like Apple's steely grip over what can and cannot be put on the iPhone. No Flash player? C'mon, already!

 

[vzw+google+htc=:)]

You don't understand a thing about patent law, do you? Suppose HTC loses it suit to Apple but is not capable of paying the financial damages. Do you know who then can be sued so they can be recovered? Those that sold the infringing products, i.e. Verizon, AT&T, Sprint and T-mobile. Yes, they would be on the hook if they knowingly sold competing products which infringed against Apple's patents.

The reason consumer products companies like ours are required to indemnify and hold retailers harmless is in the event situations like this arise. Problem is that those agreements are only as good as the vendors ability to pay. If the vendor of record, HTC in this instance, does not have the financial wherewithal to cough up millions in potential damages, rest assured Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile and Sprint do and if they sold infringing product then they would be liable.

The beauty of the N1 is that it is not being sold directly by any of the carriers, so they are off the hook. Should Verizon sell the Incredible and that item found to be among those that infringed against Apple's patents then they could be responsible for financial damages should HTC file for bankruptcy, let's say for suppositions sake, and disappear. It's for this reason I see the big four not wanting to even get near this with a 10' pole and why we're not hearing any news or confirmation from them regarding any new HTC Android phones coming to their networks. Only time will tell, but having experience in an unrelated industry I have some understanding of how these things work.

My theory here is that Steve is trying to scare some people and get Verizon back to the table for the Iphone. Hopefully Verizon will not fall for his trap. These type of lawsuits take forever. Just look at Tivo and Dishnetwork. Has dish even paid Tivo a dime yet. Plus Tivo one that case with hardly any money in the bank.

 

[Kappy]

For tech savvy people like yourselves, you will go after Android. The average person doesn't even know what root is (hell I don't and I am more savvy than the average Joe), let alone Android. All they know is the little green guy and is it pretty/popular.

I feel most average people associate iPhone with iPod, iTunes, and applications. No OS, none of that. They think little black (or white) box I can fondle and make fart noises that sound like T-Pain

 

[v4npro]

Well, if someone actually tried the iPhone at the let's say VZW store then was giving the Incredible, I'm sure they would say the Incredible is a nicer phone and would go with that. iPhone is bleh, all 3 look the same and there really nothing special not to mention you gotta use iTunes with them :/

 

[Montana Man]

You know - until we hear otherwise, hopefully at or by CTIA next week, the source we have with the best credentials is still NKT. Now he had said that his best guess on an Incredible release is 4-6 weeks from roughly the first of March, which was when the Verizon testers were issued the phone. That would put the Incredible in our hands by approximately mid-April. So until we hear from anyone else with NKT's credentials or better, that's the time frame that has my vote thus far!

 

[Mykpfsu]

Who would of thunk HTC would ever be in the news like this. UNREAL! This will be very interesting how this will play out. Google is standing behind HTC but Microsoft who is named in the lawsuit is not doing anything.. strange..

Ok, time for you to stop posting. The lawsuit has not been thrown out and Microsoft was not named in the lawsuit. Some HTC winmo phones were referenced but Microsoft was not named in the lawsuit.

Apple / HTC ITC filing - Engadget Galleries

Apple / HTC Delaware filing - Engadget Galleries

 

[CAJACKSPARROW]

With all this Iphone or Incredible talk there is one big deciding factor that will be the convert for a lot of people.

REMOVABLE BATTERY

I am not saying it will be the end all, however, I have a ton of friends that have the Iphone and all of them complain about that. 95% of them even say that if Verizon had a phone with the same capabilities they would switch to it. Duh duh duhhhhh Incredible!!!

I also bet there will be a lot of douchbaggery of the, well my friends have it so I have to get it but other than that I am not too sure it will hurt android as bad as some may think, but I do think it will make a little dent in androids armor.

 

[Mykpfsu]

Well, if someone actually tried the iPhone at the let's say VZW store then was giving the Incredible, I'm sure they would say the Incredible is a nicer phone and would go with that. iPhone is bleh, all 3 look the same and there really nothing special not to mention you gotta use iTunes with them :/

Depends. Some would like the fact that all the apps on the Iphone are right there for them. I tend to call these types lazy or stupid. Iphones are great for people who do not want to think, or who need a phone to tell them where to get the lowest rent in their city (seriously why did apple advertise that app?).

 

[miniSQ]

Your first comment regarding vzw is obscenely subjective.

i'm not denying that the iphone revolutionized the smartphone industry or that it is a great phone, but lets face it, it has been the same since it has been released, and it is arguably outdated since the emergence of android phones, like the Droid or Nexus One which allow for some customization and aren't just page after page of apps.

There is very little, if anything an iphone can do that android can't do.


boom, roasted.

when did vw start selling the N1? Did i miss the release? You may have a point with the Droid...but something tells me if the driod was THAT great then we wouldn't all be sitting here waiting on the INcredible and N1.

roasted??? hardly....try again...

 

[im a android but thats ok]

IIRC from what NKT said, 1 microSD slot near the side of the battery (similiar to the Droid Eris).

Not sure whats the max it can take, but I don't see why there'd be a limit. If the card exist, shouldn't the phone be able to read it? I mean, afterall, its just storage devices. I may be wrong though, but thats my take on it.

max is 32gb for incredible from what i read. there are limits size wise to what each phone can access from what i understand. phones need a certain amount of processor power, ram, etc. to access large data cards which can drain or brick the phone and or battery.

so a semi-related question about sense ui and android. people either love it or hate it, those that hate claim it takes months to get android updates because of sense ui and possible updates can affect sense ui workings? so are updates ota and how much longer are we expected to wait. for the record i actually like sense ui and unless google comes out with some mind blowing update i could be happy with the sense ui and 2.1.

 

[miniSQ]

I for one pledge NEVER to discuss the iPhone or Apple on this forum again....anyone else???

 

[Sigmund Droid]

Guess what i just found out!! I work for vzw as well and every friday and sat we have early store meetings... Normally its just numbers stuff but this week... wait for it... on friday an HTC will be in the store for the early meeting!!! now I dont want to jump to conclusions but i have been working there for a while and this will be the first time a rep will actually be there for the meeting and not just browsing around the store during regular hours.. could they be there to announce something??? I HOPE SO!!!

Incredible???? even the Nexus would be nice!!!

I wouldn't think they'd show up there to talk about the Nexus. That would be handled by a Google rep. Let's hope it's something good. Something.......Incredibly good!

 

[Steven58]

I for one pledge NEVER to discuss the iPhone or Apple on this forum again....anyone else???

Well, I can't follow suit, because talking about the Incredible will invariably raise comparisons between the two monsters.

 

[Steven58]

I am really hoping for the incredible... but because htc made the nexus.. and i dont think that google has that many reps going around i still think it could be for the nexus... or just some htc bs.... either way im going to pump them for info and see what i can find out!!

wouldn't it be funny if it was to increase sales of the Eris?

 

[miniSQ]

Guess what i just found out!! I work for vzw as well and every friday and sat we have early store meetings... Normally its just numbers stuff but this week... wait for it... on friday an HTC will be in the store for the early meeting!!! now I dont want to jump to conclusions but i have been working there for a while and this will be the first time a rep will actually be there for the meeting and not just browsing around the store during regular hours.. could they be there to announce something??? I HOPE SO!!!

Incredible???? even the Nexus would be nice!!!

Thats the last friday meeting before CTIA.....

just sayin.....

 

[Presto343]

none of that matters. To the normal consumer they are gonna pick the iPhone because it's well established, has tons of accesories, and well... It's an iPhone. We are the exception and I don't think there are enough of us to make a difference. Most normal people arent sitting here reading about this stuff, they are the ones who walk in the store and buy without much research. I think they out number us by a longshot. iPhone on vzw will hurt android more than any law suit.

read my first post on this topic.

 

[Trent Reznor]

With all this Iphone or Incredible talk there is one big deciding factor that will be the convert for a lot of people.

REMOVABLE BATTERY

I am not saying it will be the end all, however, I have a ton of friends that have the Iphone and all of them complain about that. 95% of them even say that if Verizon had a phone with the same capabilities they would switch to it. Duh duh duhhhhh Incredible!!!

I also bet there will be a lot of douchbaggery of the, well my friends have it so I have to get it but other than that I am not too sure it will hurt android as bad as some may think, but I do think it will make a little dent in androids armor.

As an iPhone user let me provide you with my take.

The iPhone was and is a great phone. However, I hate ATT - I have suffered thru 2 years of dropped calls and poor service. Until the release of the N1 there hasn't been an android phone that interested me. IMO - its is the first android phone with the hardware to match (in this case) surpass the iphone.

The N1 is the first phone that has received a lot of sustained attention at mac rumors.

Additionally, I love the idea of an operating system that is open for development. Android's added features and openness + hardware to match = a reason for me to leave my iPhone.

However, for the common iphone user android is still a curiosity. The iphone's OS is so simple to use that non tech people feel comfortable using the phone. Apple also does a great job of marketing its phones to the masses with it's constant commercials ie "it just works".

I am lusting for the incredible right now, but I only learned about it from finding this forum when looking for info on the N1. The incredible sounds like a great phone, but without a BIG marketing campaign it won't dent iPhone sales - even though it might be a better phone.

 

[Steven58]

As an iPhone user let me provide you with my take.

The iPhone was and is a great phone. However, I hate ATT - I have suffered thru 2 years of dropped calls and poor service. Until the release of the N1 there hasn't been an android phone that interested me. IMO - its is the first android phone with the hardware to match (in this case) surpass the iphone.

The N1 is the first phone that has received a lot of sustained attention at mac rumors.

Additionally, I love the idea of an operating system that is open for development. Android's added features and openness + hardware to match = a reason for me to leave my iPhone.

However, for the common iphone user android is still a curiosity. The iphone's OS is so simple to use that non tech people feel comfortable using the phone. Apple also does a great job of marketing its phones to the masses with it's constant commercials ie "it just works".

I am lusting for the incredible right now, but I only learned about it from finding this forum when looking for info on the N1. The incredible sounds like a great phone, but without a BIG marketing campaign it won't dent iPhone sales - even though it might be a better phone.

well said. ty.

 

[CAJACKSPARROW]

As an iPhone user let me provide you with my take.

The iPhone was and is a great phone. However, I hate ATT - I have suffered thru 2 years of dropped calls and poor service. Until the release of the N1 there hasn't been an android phone that interested me. IMO - its is the first android phone with the hardware to match (in this case) surpass the iphone.

The N1 is the first phone that has received a lot of sustained attention at mac rumors.

Additionally, I love the idea of an operating system that is open for development. Android's added features and openness + hardware to match = a reason for me to leave my iPhone.

However, for the common iphone user android is still a curiosity. The iphone's OS is so simple to use that non tech people feel comfortable using the phone. Apple also does a great job of marketing its phones to the masses with it's constant commercials ie "it just works".

I am lusting for the incredible right now, but I only learned about it from finding this forum when looking for info on the N1. The incredible sounds like a great phone, but without a BIG marketing campaign it won't dent iPhone sales - even though it might be a better phone.

Thanks for repeating what I said. All i am getting as is there are A LOT of ppl that have an Iphone and want to get rid of ATT and the phone so bad, its hilarious to me. None have wanted to leave because no phone has really been able to compete. Now there seems to be one on the way. and i hear its Incredible. So even tho it may come to VZW there may be a lot of ppl that get the Incredible, discounting the followers.

I am in no way writing off Apple's phone or their advertising, just saying there people that have the Iphone and have been wanting to get rid of it. more than I think are given credit too. Go big RED!

 

[android_freak]

Guess what i just found out!! I work for vzw as well and every friday and sat we have early store meetings... Normally its just numbers stuff but this week... wait for it... on friday an HTC will be in the store for the early meeting!!! now I dont want to jump to conclusions but i have been working there for a while and this will be the first time a rep will actually be there for the meeting and not just browsing around the store during regular hours.. could they be there to announce something??? I HOPE SO!!!

Incredible???? even the Nexus would be nice!!!

make sure to keep us updated

 

[Mandrew]

It's incredible how people use the same pun over and over again in this thread. It never ceases to amaze me...

 

[Ruben]

It's incredible how people use the same pun over and over again in this thread. It never ceases to amaze me...

Oh my

Anyway, Mr. Store guy, keep is on the loop. I am really hoping it is the Incredible.

Can't wait to go to the store and try it out. Btw, from the looks of the Droid rooting community, I'm sure we'll have some good roms for this one.

 

[bbeelzebub]

Well, I can't follow suit, because talking about the Incredible will invariably raise comparisons between the two monsters.

You obviously meant to say Monster and one very timid kitten.

 

[vzw+google+htc=:)]

Gotta love this video on youtube from ABC TV. Let me see here Disney owns ABC TV and we have Disney and Apple in bed together.

YouTube - The Beast File: Google ('HUNGRY BEAST', ABC TV)

 

[r1dePrkCty]

You obviously meant to say Monster and one very timid kitten.

Yeah seriously, I'm tired of this "timid" nonsense from apple. I'm loving Android right now and can't wait to get my hands on the incredible. Honestly, I dont care about the iphone, just give me a core i7 macbook pro and I'll stop all the complaining.