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Root Some thoughts re kernels and roms

H

horsecharles

Android Expert
1. Just flashed Kanaida Homeles Kernel v1.3over MTM's BrokenOut 1.1 Rom
and this is so far(few hours) the fastest responsiveness combo i've seen-- it's so impressive that I'm starting this thread mostly for that reason-- i have hundreds of apps and the phone responds faster than when brand new.

(FYI running 360 Launcher 3.2 mostly, the only other one installed is ADW.)

Logic would seemingly contradict this result, even that they would coexist with each other...but there you go.
I stumbled upon this by accident.
I've been running MTM's BrokenOut that comes included w/ Blitzkrieg Kernel .
I have absolutely no complaints with it; just that i heavily use phone for work, it tends to overheat...so drawn to the positive results posted re Homeless.
Like many, i couldn't get the most sensible combo: Rom #2 and it to play nice together-- would just hang interminably at boot, then force close.

And no snub of PG creations either, been running them a long time on on ZVB & C prior.

But now, for work purposes i need the smartphone to act more like a dumbphone-- screen touch to respond as fast as button touch, lower temperature, longer battery life. In reality a smartphone is not meant to be used in a high volume / dispatch work environment.

2. Speaking of recovery, say:
you cavalierly didn't backup just before flashing(9 times out of 10 not needed eventually),
or if you're like me and use the phone for work, don't want to risk losing even one app, text, contact, call history(even though redundant auto backups to cloud, external, etc. constantly run)...
there's little to lose by just overflashing previous rom first...you always have option to restore most recent backup.

The downside is little glitches can pop up at times w/ things like 4g, busybox, superuser, root, etc...may have to reapply/reinstall all these...plus...opening Titanium Backup and going into Restore "w/o actually running it" -- as it helps at times fix things-- it immediately detects and fixes errors with root, which in turn can make disappear the other recently-developing errors with lte data & superuser.

But even then, the errors could be due to other things-- SuperUser can't just be set to auto grant permission along with disabling notifications, as then it will still deny a lot of processes(even ones it previously allowed prior to rom update or restore),
a BusyBox update(if you've got it set to autoupdate, subsequent upgrades change location and/or alter system files),
i've been experimenting with XDA's AutoData , which could be guilty party, although I recommend you give it a look over.


In conclusion-- phone temp is so, so much cooler now(before it would be very hot to the touch, esp, when charging, now it hardly ever begins to even get warm; a huge improvement...add to this the unexpected bonus of such fast responsiveness.
The latter could be due to wiping caches during flashing process...but i've added a half dozen new apps immediately after, and it's running like a champ.

3. Wish List Project: comparison of contents of the major roms / kernels.
 
I'm curious, 360 launcher has enough windows to hold "hundreds" of apps?

I've never once needed hundreds of apps so i wouldn't know. Hell they all could for all i know, I'm just curious.

Also out of curiosity, i would love to see a screen of your running apps just to see how many are running at any given time.

I can barely think of 20 apps that would be deemed useful for me, so hundreds of apps leaves me curious as to why?
 
Fuzzy13 said:
I'm curious, 360 launcher has enough windows to hold "hundreds" of apps?

I've never once needed hundreds of apps so i wouldn't know. Hell they all could for all i know, I'm just curious.

Also out of curiosity, i would love to see a screen of your running apps just to see how many are running at any given time.

I can barely think of 20 apps that would be deemed useful for me, so hundreds of apps leaves me curious as to why?
Click to expand...

A little hectic here, give me a little time..I'm not a pack rat, but the same applies with one's computer...although off the bat I can think of more than 20 "categories" of apps alone...and maybe at least 20 main ongoing ones.
and within each category rarely one single app holds all desired functions...
And I'm always sampling new stuff...

I'll post a list, if u know easy way to generate text list of installed apps, and that'd be one more app...lol

PS hdmi a no go with this combo....

Sent from my LG-MS910 using Tapatalk 2 Beta-6
 
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SMS Backup & Restore

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SoundCloud

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SoundHound

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Speech Synthesis Data Ins...

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Speed Test

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Spirit Level Plus

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SSHTunnel

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Staples
 
Hope it works...

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A. i apologize for that lengthy list...

and i haven't reinstalled banking / budget apps yet....

i need to spend a day paring redundancies, although many redundants do have complementary features OR are still being evaluated vis a vis competitors.

B. 360 seems to create additional screen when one fills up, but:

1. i'm no expert
2. i originally had settings to not auto-create home shortcut upon install
3. most apps installed ' before' 360 came on scene...
4. don't care for all shortcuts to be listed...

I like that it has the smallest footprint + is the snappiest home screen i've ever tried...w/o being a tiny, feature-lacking entity....

C. Just flashed over Blitzkrieg in order to get Hdmi back....
the temperature difference is immediately noticeable-- just charging, the phone gets very hot...screen turned off...data toggled off...
 
Whatever's in that Homeless Kernel is fantastic for keeping phone cool n extending battery life.

Too bad no hdmi, the only drawback.
 
horsecharles said:
Whatever's in that Homeless Kernel is fantastic for keeping phone cool n extending battery life.

Too bad no hdmi, the only drawback.
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umm the Homeless kernels battery saving settings are in Plague n Blitz and hdmi work on those ;)

Now I'm not sure about the over/underclocking and voltages in it as I didnt even bother looking at those ;)

At any rate, the hdmi fix is a easy one if dude will contact me ;)
 
PlayfulGod said:
umm the Homeless kernels battery saving settings are in Plague n Blitz and hdmi work on those ;)

Now I'm not sure about the over/underclocking and voltages in it as I didnt even bother looking at those ;)

At any rate, the hdmi fix is a easy one if dude will contact me ;)
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Your magnanimity is boundless, i'm so honored.:proud::adore:

It was just very worrying how hot the phone was getting...then sdcard gave out...maybe unrelated, still,,,
i did my best to avoid altogether any apps that obligatorily ran in background...
 
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