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Tmobile-MetroPCS Merger Updates & Questions

Okay someone explain this to me cause I've been thinking about this for a while.

Say Metro does end up a sim card carrier. So essentially you'll have T mobile and Metro and they will be basically the same company.

So why have 2 different companies that would essentially be competing against each other with different plans and prices? If I'm T mobile, I wouldn't want my customer going to Metro regardless if they are the same and vice versa.

This makes no sense to me and maybe there is something that I am missing.

2 companies. 1 owner. Same coverage. Different plans. Customer can choose whichever they want.........That makes no sense at all.

Say Metro offers what they have now but as GSM and T mobile continues offering what they have. They are offering the same damn thing but for different prices. There has to be a variant between the two to make them different. Has to be. You don't have Coca Cola and then have Coca Cola part 2 which is the same as the other just different name. (And no the knock off ish wouldn't count because it's not the same)





What am I missing here?
 
Fuzzy13 said:
Okay someone explain this to me cause I've been thinking about this for a while.

Say Metro does end up a sim card carrier. So essentially you'll have T mobile and Metro and they will be basically the same company.

So why have 2 different companies that would essentially be competing against each other with different plans and prices? If I'm T mobile, I wouldn't want my customer going to Metro regardless if they are the same and vice versa.

This makes no sense to me and maybe there is something that I am missing.

2 companies. 1 owner. Same coverage. Different plans. Customer can choose whichever they want.........That makes no sense at all.

Say Metro offers what they have now but as GSM and T mobile continues offering what they have. They are offering the same damn thing but for different prices. There has to be a variant between the two to make them different. Has to be. You don't have Coca Cola and then have Coca Cola part 2 which is the same as the other just different name. (And no the knock off ish wouldn't count because it's not the same)





What am I missing here?
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Think coke and fanta its variety

And coke two would be tab
 
DirtyDee said:
Think coke and fanta its variety

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Made by the same company but not the same thing. Fanta is NOT the same thing as Coke and Tab is NOT the same thing as coke. They are just different flavors by the same company. The coverage/service is the SAME between these companies that have the same owner.

Now Coke zero would be a good example BUT they have zero calories. THIS is what they use to get people to buy that option instead of the other. That's what I'm getting at with T mobile PCS. There is NO option to choose either or. Make sense?

Metro and T mobile will be offering the same service but with potentially different plans. There has to be something, an incentive, for a customer to choose one or the other.


The main factor here is it's the same company offering the same coverage. Sure Boost and Sprint are the same but a customer must choose the phone they want from that specific company where as with T mobile PCS, a customer can take any phone to either or. That doesn't add up.

I could buy my Galaxy S666 from T mobile for this amount unlocked and then take it to Metro and get a cheaper plan (if that's how it works out per say with plan prices) but even though it's still T mobile, you wouldn't want your customers going to Metro PCS. There has to be a difference between the two, a variant for people.

This is why I believe that Metro PCS will be weeded out. I said that in the beginning and got hated on for it by the fan boys so I'm saying it again. T mobile obviously had the most to gain from the merger. Metro PCS has that to offer. I just dont see a reason to keep Metro. I was thinking early on that Metro would become T mobile's "pre paid" section and T mobile itself would stay with contracts. I guess this could still happen in a way but T mobile has gone mostly all pre paid.


I am by no means saying I'm right or what I'm saying is right and I am damn sure not arguing. I have nothing to argue. lol. This is how I'm seeing things so if someone can offer up an explanation and make me understand then I am perfectly open to that. The whole thing is It just doesn't make sense to me so I'm open to someone making it make sense. So don't take what I've said as me saying THIS will happen or THIS is going to happen. I'm just working out the variables and putting it out there for discussion because this set of circumstances has never happened before and right now, this ISH don't make sense!

So please, no one take what Im saying in offense. I'm merely trying to understand how this is going to work out.
 
Fuzzy13 said:
Made by the same company but not the same thing. Fanta is NOT the same thing as Coke and Tab is NOT the same thing as coke. They are just different flavors by the same company. The coverage/service is the SAME between these companies that have the same owner.

Now Coke zero would be a good example BUT they have zero calories. THIS is what they use to get people to buy that option instead of the other. That's what I'm getting at with T mobile PCS. There is NO option to choose either or. Make sense?

Metro and T mobile will be offering the same service but with potentially different plans. There has to be something, an incentive, for a customer to choose one or the other.


The main factor here is it's the same company offering the same coverage. Sure Boost and Sprint are the same but a customer must choose the phone they want from that specific company where as with T mobile PCS, a customer can take any phone to either or. That doesn't add up.

I could buy my Galaxy S666 from T mobile for this amount unlocked and then take it to Metro and get a cheaper plan (if that's how it works out per say with plan prices) but even though it's still T mobile, you wouldn't want your customers going to Metro PCS. There has to be a difference between the two, a variant for people.

This is why I believe that Metro PCS will be weeded out. I said that in the beginning and got hated on for it by the fan boys so I'm saying it again. T mobile obviously had the most to gain from the merger. Metro PCS has that to offer. I just dont see a reason to keep Metro. I was thinking early on that Metro would become T mobile's "pre paid" section and T mobile itself would stay with contracts. I guess this could still happen in a way but T mobile has gone mostly all pre paid.


I am by no means saying I'm right or what I'm saying is right and I am damn sure not arguing. I have nothing to argue. lol. This is how I'm seeing things so if someone can offer up an explanation and make me understand then I am perfectly open to that. The whole thing is It just doesn't make sense to me so I'm open to someone making it make sense. So don't take what I've said as me saying THIS will happen or THIS is going to happen. I'm just working out the variables and putting it out there for discussion because this set of circumstances has never happened before and right now, this ISH don't make sense!

So please, no one take what Im saying in offense. I'm merely trying to understand how this is going to work out.
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Think like this they are now the same company different flavors. The math is based on your needs. I think you stop seeing them as two separate companies in to start seeing them as one company

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Does anyone know if the Metro sim will be shipped nationwide? Or if I will be able to pick one up at a T-Mobile store when they become available?
 
g0lden said:
Does anyone know if the Metro sim will be shipped nationwide? Or if I will be able to pick one up at a T-Mobile store when they become available?
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I think we should check our corporate stores I don't trust authys

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Fuzzy13 said:
HSPA+42 blows every carrier's LTE out of the water.
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While using double the spectrum: 10x10MHz of HSPA+ = 42mbps, 10x10MHz of LTE = 73mbps, 20x20MHz of HSPA+ = 84mbps, 20x20MHz of LTE = 150mbps

^^Why T-Mobile has switched to LTE rather than deploy further releases of HSPA
 
Fuzzy13 said:
Made by the same company but not the same thing. Fanta is NOT the same thing as Coke and Tab is NOT the same thing as coke. They are just different flavors by the same company. The coverage/service is the SAME between these companies that have the same owner.

Now Coke zero would be a good example BUT they have zero calories. THIS is what they use to get people to buy that option instead of the other. That's what I'm getting at with T mobile PCS. There is NO option to choose either or. Make sense?

Metro and T mobile will be offering the same service but with potentially different plans. There has to be something, an incentive, for a customer to choose one or the other.


The main factor here is it's the same company offering the same coverage. Sure Boost and Sprint are the same but a customer must choose the phone they want from that specific company where as with T mobile PCS, a customer can take any phone to either or. That doesn't add up.

I could buy my Galaxy S666 from T mobile for this amount unlocked and then take it to Metro and get a cheaper plan (if that's how it works out per say with plan prices) but even though it's still T mobile, you wouldn't want your customers going to Metro PCS. There has to be a difference between the two, a variant for people.

This is why I believe that Metro PCS will be weeded out. I said that in the beginning and got hated on for it by the fan boys so I'm saying it again. T mobile obviously had the most to gain from the merger. Metro PCS has that to offer. I just dont see a reason to keep Metro. I was thinking early on that Metro would become T mobile's "pre paid" section and T mobile itself would stay with contracts. I guess this could still happen in a way but T mobile has gone mostly all pre paid.


I am by no means saying I'm right or what I'm saying is right and I am damn sure not arguing. I have nothing to argue. lol. This is how I'm seeing things so if someone can offer up an explanation and make me understand then I am perfectly open to that. The whole thing is It just doesn't make sense to me so I'm open to someone making it make sense. So don't take what I've said as me saying THIS will happen or THIS is going to happen. I'm just working out the variables and putting it out there for discussion because this set of circumstances has never happened before and right now, this ISH don't make sense!

So please, no one take what Im saying in offense. I'm merely trying to understand how this is going to work out.
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Good questions, This is what I think, take that as you will its just one more opinion.

T mobile has their prepaid that gets voice roaming but no data roaming, while there post paid does get some data roaming right.
Also you have resellers like straight talk that use t mobile but far as I know dont get any voice or data roaming.

So I think metro will be like that they will have no voice or data roaming except where they have previous extended areas. Now at that they will no longer be compatible with sprint or verizon so I am unsure how it will work.
Also and again this is just my guessing, Metro has what 14 markets? I dont think they will expand to every market that t mobile has. Sure they will be able to be used everywhere t mobile does but if for example I lived in the upper midwest and t mobile was in my area but not metro I could not get metro service.
 
The main factor here is it's the same company offering the same coverage. Sure Boost and Sprint are the same but a customer must choose the phone they want from that specific company where as with T mobile PCS, a customer can take any phone to either or. That doesn't add up.
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Well for one Boost and Virgin appeal to different people than Sprint. And to be honest a lot of Boost/Virgin customers have no clue they run on Sprints network. The same could be said with TMo and Metro they can appeal to different people. For instance Metro is VERY big with the hispanic community. That's probably a big reason why the brand isn't disappearing and in fact they're expanding it to another 15 markets. Also TMo will probably offer a little more for the higher price such you get 500mb of (leagal ;))hotspot with their plans.

Also the vast majority of people simply buy their phones from either the company stores or the carrier's website. Only people like us will be BYOD.
 
Great points you guys. Keep it up. This is exactly what I wanted, a discussion. I've taken enough heat from fanboys and I damn sure don't want anymore so I'm glad we are discussing and not arguing. (NOT saying you guys are fanboys. Just talking about "other" people that just like to argue and yell and say your stupid and Metro is the best thing since sliced bread. ):D


So please, keep it up. I'm just trying to understand.
 
mike28 said:
Right and having hspa+ as a back haul I mean damn we are set here long live prepaid my brothers :D
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My only hope is that battery consumption will become a lot better once LTE becomes better. Yeah the coverage is far superior than that of HSPA but I just hate the battery consumption. And that's why as of right now I would rather be on HSPA than LTE. If I had the choice of either or with my N4, I would still choose HSPA because of that. I don't sacrifice that much coverage with HSPA especially indoors. Guess I'm lucky to be in a great coverage area both at home and at work. And I work in a big ass tin can. Granted if I'm in a room within the warehouse, service can go in and out but for the most part it's fine.

But if they can get LTE on the same level as HSPA as far as battery consumption and equal speeds, count me in. But even then, if Straight Talk doesn't get on board then I will stick with HSPA even if LTE gets better.

Can't give up my $39.99 a month just to switch and get LTE. I rather enjoy paying damn near nothing for my service a month. :D
 
I don't think Metro gets less out of this deal than T-Mobile. Metro gets a nationwide network and GSM (byop capability). T-Mobile gets the most efficiently run LTE network in the country. Both companies get bandwidth, merged customer base, and buying power to get phones for less. It's a major win for all of us - customers, the companies, and investors. There is no downside (except for redundant personnel that will be laid off).

I've seen the bandwidth merger schedule (posted online) and it's good. I understand why it's spread out the way it is. But, frankly, I'd like T-Mobile to scrap HSPA+ in another three to four years.

Remember, today's LTE isn't really true LTE - it hasn't even gotten close to it's theoretical top speed.

LTE only means VoLTE and IP only phone calls. Everything who'll be data. Minutes will go the way of buggy whips and whale oil. Technically, the company would stop being a telecom and becomes an ISP with different regulations. We'll see if Congress and the FCC feels the same way about it by then.

Joe Average doesn't know nor does he care if this is one or two companies. He just wants it to work and not break the bank. We are not average.
 
the question is will they be both offering note 3's? gs4? iphone5 or 5s? that is what will make everyone confused? which is the same thing im wondering..and not talking regarding to byod...
 
Joshuah22a said:
the question is will they be both offering note 3's? gs4? iphone5 or 5s? that is what will make everyone confused? which is the same thing im wondering..and not talking regarding to byod...
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^^^This is what I think will further explain the difference between metro and t mobile. We don't know what phones metro will get. Maybe majority of the mid range to low end phones will end up on metro with an exception of a few high end ones. Most people wont know they can btod unless metro advertizes it. I think maybe t mobile will make some changes to metros rate plans once everything is settled.
 
Joshuah22a said:
the question is will they be both offering note 3's? gs4? iphone5 or 5s? that is what will make everyone confused? which is the same thing im wondering..and not talking regarding to byod...
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Therein to me lies a BIG important difference between the TMo "Coke" and Metro "Coke".

Just don't allow BYOD at Metro (as it is now). You're limited to Metro phones through their sellers.

Also they could bring out more and nicer phones at TMo.

As has already been mentioned. The average Metro customer isn't going to even know they may be able to go to TMo and get a cooler phone there that works on Metro but just doesn't say Metro on it.

Bruce in Ocala, FL
 
I think we're basing T-Mobile & Metro's future on what we've seen with Sprint & Virgin Mobile. These companies are just bookkeeping tricks. The money is going into the same coffers. It's an illusion of choice that may be kept for the general public.

T-Mobile US may just scrap the Metro brand, altogether. Why have a fake discount brand when their own services are getting to be so reasonably priced? Deutsche Telecom doesn't seem to be the kind of company that would muddy the waters like that.

BYOD may be so prevalent in the near future that it doesn't make sense to have a locked in brand.
 
Twin Prime said:
I think we're basing T-Mobile & Metro's future on what we've seen with Sprint & Virgin Mobile. These companies are just bookkeeping tricks. The money is going into the same coffers. It's an illusion of choice that may be kept for the general public.

T-Mobile US may just scrap the Metro brand, altogether. Why have a fake discount brand when their own services are getting to be so reasonably priced? Deutsche Telecom doesn't seem to be the kind of company that would muddy the waters like that.

BYOD may be so prevalent in the near future that it doesn't make sense to have a locked in brand.
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DT isn't the shot caller anymore they're just a stockholder now, Tmobile USA is no longer a subsidiary of DT that was actually the main part of the merger was to exit all responsibility in the US market, it's a 100% up to Legere now and he seems like a man that'll diversify the companies portfolio as much as possible.
 
OcalaFlGuy said:
Therein to me lies a BIG important difference between the TMo "Coke" and Metro "Coke".

Just don't allow BYOD at Metro (as it is now). You're limited to Metro phones through their sellers.

Also they could bring out more and nicer phones at TMo.

As has already been mentioned. The average Metro customer isn't going to even know they may be able to go to TMo and get a cooler phone there that works on Metro but just doesn't say Metro on it.

Bruce in Ocala, FL
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Twin Prime said:
I think we're basing T-Mobile & Metro's future on what we've seen with Sprint & Virgin Mobile. These companies are just bookkeeping tricks. The money is going into the same coffers. It's an illusion of choice that may be kept for the general public.

T-Mobile US may just scrap the Metro brand, altogether. Why have a fake discount brand when their own services are getting to be so reasonably priced? Deutsche Telecom doesn't seem to be the kind of company that would muddy the waters like that.

BYOD may be so prevalent in the near future that it doesn't make sense to have a locked in brand.
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heres the thing though you cant really lock down the gsm phone system. I get a sim card (even if I have to buy a cheap crap phone from metro) and pull the sim and stick it in my unlocked nexus 4 or note 2 or htc one and everything works.

Sure some people will not know that (and will never try it just to see) but even if they dont advertise it people will do it.
Sprint virgin mobile, boost mobile they use cdma tech and they can do that because the esn is part of the phone not the sim card.
 
Gman9831 said:
DT isn't the shot caller anymore they're just a stockholder now, Tmobile USA is no longer a subsidiary of DT that was actually the main part of the merger was to exit all responsibility in the US market, it's a 100% up to Legere now and he seems like a man that'll diversify the companies portfolio as much as possible.
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Corporate DNA may still have an effect. Deutsche Telekom owns $14.2 billion worth of the company. They can bail and sell every share to Vodafone right now, but pledged not to sell until after 18 months.

Legere said consolidation in the wireless industry is
 
I was going through my downloaded apps and found this thing called "network locations ".
It's never been there before and it's not an app either could it be part of the whole merger or something?
What is it?!
 
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