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Kaat72
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Whithout the greasy taste. Duplicating/growing fat cells are too difficult yet.
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Whithout the greasy taste. Duplicating/growing fat cells are too difficult yet.
breadnatty08
pain rustique
I was a vegetarian for many years but started eating meat again (in pretty small doses, usually prefer veggie options).
Its origin is in meat so I'd say no on that front. But! like some have said on the news, a vegan driving a Hummer is hurting the environment less than a meat eater driving a Prius. Not sure where the basis is or reasoning, but I could believe it.
Either way, without getting political; no I wouldn't choose it. I'd go with a veggie burger no matter how processed it was long before a test tube beef burger.
MSUgEEk
Android Expert
Cows produce copious amounts of methane gas. It's possible that statement is true. One would need to calculate how many pounds of beef a meat eater would eat in a year...correlate that to how many cows it would take to make that beef. Then from that calculate how many greenhouse gasses those cows produced. The greenhouse gasses produced from nearly every car in America is pretty readily available with a good Google search.
Flatulence, really, we going to talk about flatulence.:rofl::vroam:
breadnatty08
pain rustique
Nice to see some community folks helping on a cool local mural (a block from our place by the elementary school). Coming along nicely. 
MSUgEEk
Android Expert
Since it's Monday and I'm bored...let's give this a whirl.
An average cow produces about 75 or so gallons of methane per day. At a density of 0.7kg per cubic meter, that converts to 0.29 pounds of gaseous methane per day. This comes to around 150 lbs of methane per year.
My 4x4 F150 with the 5.4L V8 produces about 600grams of greenhouse gases per mile driven. I drive my truck about 10,000 miles per year. That's about 13,000 lbs of CO2 per year.
According to sources...methane is 23 times more harmful than carbon dioxide (the main greenhouse gas produced by cars). So a cow produces an equivalent damage of 3,450 lbs of CO2.
Now...I'm a meat eater in every sense of the word. I consume large amounts of red meat. I'm probably in the upper 25% of the population when it comes to red meat consumption. Let's say I consume 0.25 pounds of beef per day. I probably don't...but ocassionally when I crave a juicy steak...I'll consume a whole pound in one meal...I do eat quarter-pound and third pound burgers fairly often...some days I each chicken or fish or pork...some days I don't eat meat (rarely)...so we'll use a conservative estimate. That's 91 lbs of cattle per year. Your average steer will produce around 500 lbs of consumable meat...so one cow would feed me for 5 years.
Conclusion. I don't think eating as much red meat as I do is quite as damaging as driving my F150.
An average cow produces about 75 or so gallons of methane per day. At a density of 0.7kg per cubic meter, that converts to 0.29 pounds of gaseous methane per day. This comes to around 150 lbs of methane per year.
My 4x4 F150 with the 5.4L V8 produces about 600grams of greenhouse gases per mile driven. I drive my truck about 10,000 miles per year. That's about 13,000 lbs of CO2 per year.
According to sources...methane is 23 times more harmful than carbon dioxide (the main greenhouse gas produced by cars). So a cow produces an equivalent damage of 3,450 lbs of CO2.
Now...I'm a meat eater in every sense of the word. I consume large amounts of red meat. I'm probably in the upper 25% of the population when it comes to red meat consumption. Let's say I consume 0.25 pounds of beef per day. I probably don't...but ocassionally when I crave a juicy steak...I'll consume a whole pound in one meal...I do eat quarter-pound and third pound burgers fairly often...some days I each chicken or fish or pork...some days I don't eat meat (rarely)...so we'll use a conservative estimate. That's 91 lbs of cattle per year. Your average steer will produce around 500 lbs of consumable meat...so one cow would feed me for 5 years.
Conclusion. I don't think eating as much red meat as I do is quite as damaging as driving my F150.
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Kaat72
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Nice to see some community folks helping on a cool local mural (a block from our place by the elementary school). Coming along nicely.
Did you help?
Epic post of the month.:rofl:
MSUgEEk
Android Expert
What I failed to include in that study was the Prius...A Prius only produces 178 grams per mile driven. That's 3920lbs of CO2 per 10,000 miles. Now it's a little more of a tossup whether the cow is more damaging or the Prius.
halon
hakuna matata
Well now I want to go out and buy my own fully butchered cow.
89 more posts till 30,000!
breadnatty08
pain rustique
Nah, was quickly on my way home to get bread made.
To geek's post, not in the interest of comparing driving gas guzzlers to eating meat, just pointing it out. FWIW, I'm eating more meat than I really want to these days. Bacon and pork are just too hard to get away from. Try to keep it in moderation though.
On the bread side; making a 50% whole wheat sourdough with figs and toasted walnuts. Little before and after.
halon
hakuna matata
So MLB is suspending a bunch of people today because of PEDs. I might be the minority, but I really don't care if they use PEDs. Let all of them use PEDs. I've heard the stories from old time ball players talking about uppers being readily available. I'm a firm believer that ball players have always tried to find something to give them an advantage.
Here is what brought up my question earlier: http://news.discovery.com/tech/biotechnology/worlds-first-test-tube-burger-130805.htm#mkcpgn=fbsci1
http://www.hulu.com/watch/518344#i0,p0,d1
http://www.theguardian.com/science/video/2013/aug/05/google-burger-sergey-brin-lab-grown-hamburger
Here is what brought up my question earlier: http://news.discovery.com/tech/biotechnology/worlds-first-test-tube-burger-130805.htm#mkcpgn=fbsci1
http://www.hulu.com/watch/518344#i0,p0,d1
http://www.theguardian.com/science/video/2013/aug/05/google-burger-sergey-brin-lab-grown-hamburger
MSUgEEk
Android Expert
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Hey bread, I made some zucchini bread last week, does that count?
MSUgEEk
Android Expert
I disagree. Steroids and the likes are harmful to the body, especially when taken by developing teenagers. When they know they will have to take stuff like that to be competitive in the majors, then they will be more prone to take it at a younger age. I am probably a rare person that would want a permanent ban on anyone using PEDs. If you can't get there by normal training and a healthy diet, then you weren't as athletic or didn't put in as much work as the guys who do make it without PEDs. That's what professional sports are all about, seeing superior athleticism. I for one DO care how they got there. It's a blend of hard work and God-given talent/athleticism.
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Yeah, I don't want to watch sports to see who has the best pharmacist.
MSUgEEk
Android Expert
Hold onto your hat...that ride gets crazy in a hurry. I stopped watching after season 4 or 5.
Is Breaking Bad a pretty good show? I've considered watching it on Netflix...running out of stuff to watch. Also has anyone checked out Orange is the new Black, the Netflix original?
OverByter
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Breaking, Bad is a truly epic television series, Brian Cranston one an Emmy like 5 years in a row, I enjoyed Orange but imho it's not even close to the other Netflix original, House of Cards.
OB