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Malaysia Airlines tragedies
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Stuntman
Android Expert
I hear you.
I remember that the transcript was English to Chinese to English with a warning the the words weren't accurate, but we still had transcript analysis spring up as a new growth industry anyway.
We've gotten little information and a whole lot of infotainment masquerading as information.
By the time information hits, and don't ask me why it takes so long, it has to compete with infotainment.
And the infotainment peddlers want people not trusting anything or knowing what to believe.
Makes for a great audience - after all, our top experts will be there with more inside infotainment when the reports come out.
And buried in plain sight as we've gone along - yes - some of the information has changed. And not always in ways that have been explained.
When the US, UK, and China stand shoulder to shoulder, hopefully with Australia and Japan in there as well, all without common ground beyond aviation and this flight, and say - we've all reviewed all data, here's what happened - then I'll believe it.
Stuntman
Android Expert
What happened to flight 370 is already a great mystery without the loss credibility of the Malaysian government in providing what little information there is. MH370: Malaysian credibility in missing jet hunt challenged again - The Economic Times
Alien Droid
Newbie
Cheers.
Would this completely rule out the debris field almost 700 miles to the south west of the new search area, or could ocean and wind currents still make this a possibility!
I know fuel is measured in pounds, but would this type of plane have an accurate fuel meter so that they know what was on-board before the fuel truck topped it up?
I'm guessing the engines record fuel used and that gets passed to ground crew once plane lands and that's how they know how much fuel was on-board when it took off for last time!
BRAINZ2013
Extreme Android User
Just a little something to point out . I think the fuel maybe wrong readings . just think you have 2kind hearted people aka pilots that love to entertain beautiful female passengers. For all we know they could have been joy riding up and down the the Indian ocean for a passengers proms night .
Several prominent oceanographers familiar with those seas said that much drift was not reasonable, given the measured wind and sea currents in the areas in question, for the time involved.
Alien Droid
Newbie
Thanx for that.
One other thing I've been trying to find which I really don't think I imagined is;
I remember watching the news I guess around a couple of weeks back and (hearing) them playback what I assumed what was the recorded last message of MH370.
This most likely would have been BBC or Sky news, but I've searched and can't find a recording.
So was this simply being read out by a reporter to sound like the Co-Pilot?
I distinctly remember a slightly longer than normal delay when he said "all right" and then........ "goodnight"
I guess I'm mistaken, but at the time was convinced I was listening to the actual recording. Why would anyone read that version of the transcript out in this way, it most certainly wasn't read out in a normal news like voice!
Stranger things have happened I guess.
Yeah - like having a recording of the last transmission when the transcript was held in secret.
Basically impossible.
Unless you're a member of the media circus willing to sell anything for ratings.
Meanwhile -
CNN asks ocean experts - shocking new controversy on the "wet water" theory
I wish they'd muzzle that fool.
Alien Droid
Newbie
No I'm not or ever have been part of the as you put it the media circus, although that link might suggest you need to mod your own posts sometimes a little better, but thanx for that!
Oh and I'm no Rick n Roll fan either!
Just recounting something I did hear on the news so I can only assume some idiot read that out in more of a dramatic way than just strait reporting the so called correct transcript at that time!
Nothing is impossible, never have been interested in live or archive ATC chatter but its easy enough for anyone to do, right now I'm listening into ATC from Sydney. I could be recording that live feed now and someone could possibly have done this for MH370. But I'm more inclined the earlier transcript was simply read out some weeks back just to improve the ratings of whatever channel I heard it on.
I've never used this site before today but I just found a post from 18 March referring to the briefing the day before;
You can hear in that briefing it said that the transcript was under investigation, but seconds later Datuk Azharuddin Abdul Rahman then confirms to the watching world that the Co-Pilot said "All right, good night" and that was communicated with their ATC at 01:19
'All right, good night' uttered by co-pilot - Nation | The Star Online
He 100% is not the person/the voice I heard around 2 weeks ago utter those words. I stand by what I heard on TV someone either read out that so called last transmission, even if that was just a repeat of what he said it was done in such a way I mistook it for the actual part recoding of the last transmission.
That briefing makes it clear they might one minute say something is under investigation, and a few seconds later he blurts out what was believed the last transmission from MH370's Co-Pilot
Your choice of words in this post and your p-take link are well below what I would have expected from a mod. But whatever helps the ratings, right!
The media circus is them - not us. Not you.
It's a very common term, now you're familiar with it too.
I'm sorry that you took that personally.
"CNN investigates water" is a common meme going around making fun of their experts and their reports.
At the time I posted that, the top stories were about the Malaysian police chief, in the news again, saying that they cleared everyone on the plane but it was probably hijackers anyway.
I'm not interested in ratings, it was just a joke.
I happen to be frustrated with the situation and the reporting.
I blew off steam. Sorry if that offended you.
PS - we still only know what the Malaysians have said is on the transcript.
It's a very common term, now you're familiar with it too.
I'm sorry that you took that personally.
"CNN investigates water" is a common meme going around making fun of their experts and their reports.
At the time I posted that, the top stories were about the Malaysian police chief, in the news again, saying that they cleared everyone on the plane but it was probably hijackers anyway.
I'm not interested in ratings, it was just a joke.
I happen to be frustrated with the situation and the reporting.
I blew off steam. Sorry if that offended you.
PS - we still only know what the Malaysians have said is on the transcript.
Gmash
Extreme Android User
FWIW I thought it was pretty obvious that you were being sarcastic, and not towards him. If anything, you were agreeing with him. Oh well, what can you do? With satire, you know somehow, somebody just won't get the joke.
breadnatty08
pain rustique
If anyone is looking for some humor, Jon Stewart made some fun of the media the other night:
April 1, 2014 - Michael Lewis - The Daily Show - Full Episode | Comedy Central
April 1, 2014 - Michael Lewis - The Daily Show - Full Episode | Comedy Central
jefboyardee
Extreme Android User
Just like more information, just like more startling news, just like this and a hundred other threads. We're coming to assume they're dead and we may never know why.... God bless 'em.
Sensitivity towards the families of the crew perhaps, or because it forms part of an ongoing investigation? Or maybe just a refusal to give the press yet something else to speculate wildly about?
I want to be clear that I'm not defending anyone - but why should they release anything in the first place?
Had they been as open with the international investigators as they originally claimed, we could have had a statement from the team that said nothing would be released until more is known, meanwhile, this is the search area.
Everyone in the Malaysian power structure showing who's the big man, followed by their off-the-record counterparts in our country and others made it just too easy for the Crash News Network to cash in along with everyone else.
And then came the flood of nonsense.
I actually have myself convinced that once upon a time, no one in their right mind would run a story that said - "The following is an English translation of a Chinese translation of an English-language conversation between Malaysians. No representation is made that this transcript is correct. Please note that it's from an untrusted source, not Malaysia."
Instead of the top story being - News Editor At Our Competition Fired For Gross Incompetence, Investigation Into Drug Use Underway - the top story becomes instead, wow omgz pwnies we have the transcript!
Along with the demand for more.
I don't recall needing to hear recordings during ongoing investigations before.
Nothing personal, that's just how I see the whole situation.
And if you heard the recording today - would you be surprised to hear another one in two weeks?
It can be bad enough translating English to Chinese, and I should know.
But translating English to Chinese, and then translating back into English again. Especially if you wish to convey the exact message, meaning and/or context of something.