70 app limit on Hero (Sprint)?

[veggiess]

Besides, not totally convinced until you have over 80 apps. The problem seems to happy to everyone somewhere between 70 and 80 apps. I don't think 70 is a magic number....

 

[oggg]

Like I said before, only time I ever had that problem is when I tried installing a bunch of apps at once from the Market. Never happens when I use AppManager though. But I have more than 70 and I'm not having a problem.

try to reboot your phone to see if it gives you any problem. I had over 70 apps in my phone and it was working. The problem happened when I rebooted the phone.

Perhaps nothing will happen to your phone...maybe there are other factors involved, like the size of the apps, type of apps...I don't know... only thing I know is that I know what to do when it happens again to me...

 

[rsbenedict]

It may have something to do with the size of each program and the amount of space left to add apps.

 

[ajones7279]

Those are all downloaded. And I rebooted about 3 times.

You don't have to believe me lol.

 

[Mrniceguy]

sorry to come in like a ****... but does anyone know if the new FW addresses this issue?

 

[Mrniceguy]

just to add evidence to this thread, I had the exact same problem twice.

The first time, I did a hard reset (after two weeks of use). The second time, when I was about to smash this damn phone against the wall, I found this thread and deleted a couple apps I was not using until I had less than 70. I rebooted the phone and BINGO! it is working again. I think I had around 75 apps when it started to give me problems.

I rarely reboot my phone, but when I did it, it was gone. It would force close almost everything. After I uninstall a couple of my apps it is back in business.

I don't know if the problem is Android or Sense, but this limitation is annoying. I don't think that 70 apps is a lot. Also, the 150mb of internal memory is a joke. If I have 16gb of memory in my SD why can't I save my apps and emails to it?? I know, there is a lot of technical explanations behind it...but that is lame anyway.

I was so happy with Android but now that I have used it for a while I am finding lots of limitations. That is sad... hope Android 2.0 is better....

apps to sd my friend... i havent used it personally but it would prob be worth taking a look at...
does apps to sd fix this issue idk

 

[lee_herman]

I'm also having issues with too many apps. I'm currently at the limit. If I add one more, and restart, I get no connection and other apps start to crash. Remove one (any one, not just the one I just added) and things are OK again. I have plenty of room left on the internal memory and the SD card.

How do we get someone from the Android development to weigh in on this?

 

[kronium]

Lee, do you have the Sprint update installed? I was hoping this would solve the problem. And how many installed apps do you have, around 70?

 

[lee_herman]

Kronium, I'm not sure to what Sprint update you are referring. I have the latest firmware.

And yes, I have about 70 apps.

 

[kronium]

Kronium, I'm not sure to what Sprint update you are referring. I have the latest firmware.

And yes, I have about 70 apps.

Yeah, the firmware update Sprint released last week. If you have it, then it didn't fix the problem. :

Apps2SD doesn't fix the problem either.

 

[Mrniceguy]

Yeah, the firmware update Sprint released last week. If you have it, then it didn't fix the problem. :

Apps2SD doesn't fix the problem either.

dang... i was looking into apps to sd too...
according to the apps manager i use i have 89 apps and still going strong...

im on freshrom fwiw

 

[lyskar]

No, no, no co

 

[mobilehavoc]

While I truly feel the frustration of having a limit...I really think this issue if it truly exists will only have an impact on a very small subset of users. I consider myself a power user and I only have 40-50 apps max on my phone. I had an iPhone before and while you can have 1,000,000 on your phone at once it's a complete waste since I hardly used more than 20 except the first time I launched them. The limit, if it exists sucks, but people need to chill out.

Are you really using all 70+ apps at once? Especially the ones that are free, it's very easy to uninstall them and install them when you need them. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Sweed]

@lyskar
your being way to harsh about the hero.

It's apparent to me that this 70 app limit is obviously a glitch.
it's not done on purpose.
eventually maybe sprint will figure out whats wrong with it and fix it.
but I can tell you that I'm sure they aren't doing this on purpose

 

[lee_herman]

I'm glad that there is continued confirmation of the app limit. I sent a request for support to HTC, but got a useless automated reply about the issue.

Who do we complain to, and when will HTC/Sprint start to acknowledge that this issue exists? (I guess they're concerned about market loss to Verizon Droid).

 

[Sweed]

has anybody actually confirmed that this is only on the htc hero?

 

[ohmarni]

has anybody actually confirmed that this is only on the htc hero?

I've had a G1 and a myTouch. I didn't have this issue on either of those phones. I have it on my Sprint Hero though.

 

[kronium]

While I truly feel the frustration of having a limit...I really think this issue if it truly exists will only have an impact on a very small subset of users. I consider myself a power user and I only have 40-50 apps max on my phone. I had an iPhone before and while you can have 1,000,000 on your phone at once it's a complete waste since I hardly used more than 20 except the first time I launched them. The limit, if it exists sucks, but people need to chill out.

Are you really using all 70+ apps at once? Especially the ones that are free, it's very easy to uninstall them and install them when you need them. Just my 2 cents.

Yes I use 70+ apps. Especially since I have games on my phone for my children. Come on, one of the selling point of the Hero is the thousands of downloadable apps. Now we find out that you can only install 70 of those? We need to chill out? If you have less than 70 apps on your phone, you're not even close to utilizing its full potential. THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE.

Anyway, an HTC rep, via email, confirmed and escalated the issue. I'll update here when I receive a new response.

 

[ohmarni]

Yes I use 70+ apps. Especially since I have games on my phone for my children. Come on, one of the selling point of the Hero is the thousands of downloadable apps. Now we find out that you can only install 70 of those? We need to chill out? If you have less than 70 apps on your phone, you're not even close to utilizing its full potential. THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE.

Anyway, an HTC rep, via email, confirmed and escalated the issue. I'll update here when I receive a new response.

I totally agree. I didn't realize how 70 apps really isn't that much...especially when you consider that all of my Camera Zoom FX add-ons each count as an app. That camera app and all the add-ons are eating up around 25% of my app limit, I think. Also, each Locale add-on counts as an app. Got Better Keyboard? Each skin counts as its own app. (I just uninstalled Better Keyboard and Locale for now. I can't afford to run them.)

Anyway, I'm glad that HTC is acknowledging the issue and escalating. I don't think this was an issue with the GSM version of the Hero. Wonder what's causing it? I may try to run adb logcat when I get home tonight just to satisfy my curiosity.

 

[KraZe_EyE]

Hello all, my phone was a little sluggish so I rebooted to give it a fresh face. only to have it be all F***ed up when it starts up! Since this has happened to me twice now I decided to google my problems (hero has no signal and everything force closes after reboot) and eventually found my way here. I was about to do a hard reset since I cannot even goto my settings page to do a factory reset. whew!
I have uninstalled alot of my apps (I had more then 100 including preinstalled ones) and then restarted my phone. AND ITS WORKS, THANK YOU!
I am so pissed that there is a limit to how many apps I can have, even if it is a glitch. WTF no developer has ever noticed this/had more then 70 apps installed?

I'd like to say that having more then 70 apps was normal use for me. I had 7 news apps, lots of picture related apps, like 25 games and fun/random apps, and the rest were apps like compass, skymap, layer, etc; normal apps that I didn't use often but needed. Its frustrating that I have to pick and choose which apps I want cause I dont want to be stuck having to download an app when I need it because of a stupid glitch.
And to the guy who said to just reinstall the app when you need it...you're a moron. Go return your smart phone and get a flip phone; and remember to put your helmet on.

 

[lldsandsll]

And to the guy who said to just reinstall the app when you need it...you're a moron. Go return your smart phone and get a flip phone; and remember to put your helmet on.

way to make a lasting impression

 

[KraZe_EyE]

Harsh yes, but very true. I shouldn't have to reinstall apps.
I am still pissed at all the bugs I've had to deal with on my hero. I won't rehash them here but seems to me this phone was pushed out too fast. I still love it though.

 

[oggg]

besides the problem of force close and all the screw ups mentioned in this forum, my phone is also constantly changing apps icons and names after rebooting the phone...anybody with this issue as well?

Not sure if it is Android or Sense, but the Sprint Hero's software is very, very unstable...and is getting slower every day as well...I am about to smash this damn phone!

 

[Sweed]

You all need to calm down and stop blaming htc
I have no doubt watsoever that they're trying to fix the issue
But it's not as simple as that
What would the number of apps downloaded have to do with the phone creating theese problems?
Do any of you know?
Well I doubt htc does either.
But don't think they aren't working on it

 

[kronium]

You all need to calm down and stop blaming htc
I have no doubt watsoever that they're trying to fix the issue
But it's not as simple as that
What would the number of apps downloaded have to do with the phone creating theese problems?
Do any of you know?
Well I doubt htc does either.
But don't think they aren't working on it

Not so sure they'd be investing time to fix this on Android 1.5 when they're currently working on 2.1. We'll see if someone at HTC has the sense to test 2.1 for the bug before it's released.