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GameTheory said:
Not that this helps us... or maybe it does, but check this out.

http://androidforums.com/5550376-post436.html
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I used to work closely with PG on a lot of things. He's a good guy, and kept up with development long after I left.

Not sure about what he's saying about root, however. Rooting is a phone-by-phone type of deal. There is no be-all way of obtaining root. Some phones just have an easier time with it.

TBH, all of what I did never dealt with root. It was everything that followed after root was achieved (custom recoveries, ROMs, etc.). Trying to re-write the fake backup app was my first stab at obtaining root. I haven't given up trying to find an exploit, but I have given up on using the Motion root method.

I'm hoping I can find root, or somebody better at it can! I really want to start working on Android 4.1 for this phone (it would run like a dream), but we're all just sitting pretty until we can get root. :(
 
isaacj87 said:
I used to work closely with PG on a lot of things. He's a good guy, and kept up with development long after I left.

Not sure about what he's saying about root, however. Rooting is a phone-by-phone type of deal. There is no be-all way of obtaining root. Some phones just have an easier time with it.

TBH, all of what I did never dealt with root. It was everything that followed after root was achieved (custom recoveries, ROMs, etc.). Trying to re-write the fake backup app was my first stab at obtaining root. I haven't given up trying to find an exploit, but I have given up on using the Motion root method.

I'm hoping I can find root, or somebody better at it can! I really want to start working on Android 4.1 for this phone (it would run like a dream), but we're all just sitting pretty until we can get root. :(
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Haha... I mentioned you to PG to see if that would entice him to join us, but of course that did not work. He's not having it... Doesn't like phones with locked bootloaders.

And don't worry I do not doubt you for one second. ;) I know this phone is a pain in the arse.
 
GameTheory said:
Haha... I mentioned you to PG to see if that would entice him to join us, but of course that did not work. He's not having it... Doesn't like phones with locked bootloaders.

And don't worry I do not doubt you for one second. ;) I know this phone is a pain in the arse.
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Well, I found download mode on our phones, but it doesn't seem to have shell access. If you're curious you guys can see if for yourself:

Hold down vol + and vol - and connect the USB cable. The screen will go black and then display download mode. To get out of it, just hold down the power key to power off the device.
 
isaacj87 said:
No, but I did make some progress last night...
Code: 
.annotation system Ldalvik/annotation/InnerClass;
    accessFlags = 0x19
    name = "permission"
.end annotation
...
Now, if I can write a new class into our homemade app that follows the same process that allows the Backup app to use that permission, we should be able to exploit the service and gain temp root! I just have to figure out how exactly this "check" in the Java code hooks into the original Backup app.
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Possibly that hex "accessFlags", any idea what's held there?
Maybe this set/string?
Code: 
{p0 . . p0}
...kind of looks like a "key" and "address" to check

I can read more java/c++ than I can write, only really got into it as a hobby. I may be completely wrong, or missed a line...


isaacj87 said:
Well, I found download mode on our phones
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Hold down vol + and vol - and connect the USB cable. The screen will go black and then display download mode. To get out of it, just hold down the power key to power off the device.
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That's what I was calling (and using) "SafeMode" to "test" in Shabby's unloved device hit squad thread... If it appeared successful, would return to normal and run "for real" (trying not to brick).

Safe Mode
Similar as Above: From Power Off, hold both vols +&- and press Power until boot screen, release Power button when boot screen comes on and continue to hold Vols +&- until unlock screen. Release all and unlock, "SafeMode" should be in the lower left corner of the screen. Seems to keep a lot of processes from starting... sys backup app also "disappears". To exit, reboot/power cycle phone.

Don't know if that's helpful or not? :confused:

To clarify you should be holding Vols +&- until unlock screen, no need to plug in USB cable.

Haven't tried "download mode" yet, same thing?


:D
 
isaacj87 said:
Well, I found download mode on our phones, but it doesn't seem to have shell access. If you're curious you guys can see if for yourself:

Hold down vol + and vol - and connect the USB cable. The screen will go black and then display download mode. To get out of it, just hold down the power key to power off the device.
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At least is good to know we have a dev with us a good one btw
 
isaacj87 said:
I used to work closely with PG on a lot of things. He's a good guy, and kept up with development long after I left.

Not sure about what he's saying about root, however. Rooting is a phone-by-phone type of deal. There is no be-all way of obtaining root. Some phones just have an easier time with it.

TBH, all of what I did never dealt with root. It was everything that followed after root was achieved (custom recoveries, ROMs, etc.). Trying to re-write the fake backup app was my first stab at obtaining root. I haven't given up trying to find an exploit, but I have given up on using the Motion root method.

I'm hoping I can find root, or somebody better at it can! I really want to start working on Android 4.1 for this phone (it would run like a dream), but we're all just sitting pretty until we can get root. :(
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One last thing before you give up:
Try installing the motion backup app, then try rooting. :)

Wait, that won't install will it?
 
Wonder what happened to that Travis Antonio dev that created the unbrick for the Attain. I bet him and Isaac can get root working together..
 
skinlab said:
Wonder what happened to that Travis Antonio dev that created the unbrick for the Attain. I bet him and Isaac can get root working together..
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Samsung is different. ODIN is almost always used to root Samsung devices. Not the case for LG.
 
isaacj87 said:
I used to work closely with PG on a lot of things. He's a good guy, and kept up with development long after I left.

Not sure about what he's saying about root, however. Rooting is a phone-by-phone type of deal. There is no be-all way of obtaining root. Some phones just have an easier time with it.

TBH, all of what I did never dealt with root. It was everything that followed after root was achieved (custom recoveries, ROMs, etc.). Trying to re-write the fake backup app was my first stab at obtaining root. I haven't given up trying to find an exploit, but I have given up on using the Motion root method.

I'm hoping I can find root, or somebody better at it can! I really want to start working on Android 4.1 for this phone (it would run like a dream), but we're all just sitting pretty until we can get root. :(
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I chatted with the root guru we chatted about last night. Get with him and he said he just needed you to pull some files for him to check out. ;)

Once you all have root the next fun step will be getting a bootstrap/2ndinit recovery built for it. After that it shouldnt be too much diff from what you're use too. ;)

Sadly I know nadda about bootstrap and 2ndinit.
 
I would just like to say. This phone is GREAT but I also was rocking an old indulge that was on basix (bad and deserted ROM). I would like to say I GREATLY appreciate the work you guys are doing. If I had money, I would totally donate. Sounds like you guys are coming along. I cant wait for root strictly for font reasons. Im skipping the custom ROM this time tho. Again, thanks so much guys.
 
Hauttie5000 said:
I would just like to say. This phone is GREAT but I also was rocking an old indulge that was on basix (bad and deserted ROM). I would like to say I GREATLY appreciate the work you guys are doing. If I had money, I would totally donate. Sounds like you guys are coming along. I cant wait for root strictly for font reasons. Im skipping the custom ROM this time tho. Again, thanks so much guys.
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what exactly makes it a bad rom? the indulge is old as dirt and never got an update there is only so much someone can do with the software they are given.
 
bnb25 said:
oh no shabby going to bite someone else head off lol joking
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lol im not a fan of someone talking crap about a rom that they obviously used for a good while. if it was so bad then why not make one themselves? do it better, show k0nane how its done. im sure many people would agree k0nane is one of the reasons why the indulge didnt suck as much as it could have. a custom kernel and a custom rom, plus it was him that brought root...
 
Shabbypenguin said:
lol im not a fan of someone talking crap about a rom that they obviously used for a good while. if it was so bad then why not make one themselves? do it better, show k0nane how its done. im sure many people would agree k0nane is one of the reasons why the indulge didnt suck as much as it could have. a custom kernel and a custom rom, plus it was him that brought root...
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Man that Indulge was a brick w/o k0nane's ROM. Samsung & Metro should have paid him for fixing their error.
 
Shabbypenguin said:
lol im not a fan of someone talking crap about a rom that they obviously used for a good while. if it was so bad then why not make one themselves? do it better, show k0nane how its done. im sure many people would agree k0nane is one of the reasons why the indulge didnt suck as much as it could have. a custom kernel and a custom rom, plus it was him that brought root...
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meah like its so hard to do all that stuff. :p ...sarcasism
 
PlayfulGod said:
I chatted with the root guru we chatted about last night. Get with him and he said he just needed you to pull some files for him to check out. ;)

Once you all have root the next fun step will be getting a bootstrap/2ndinit recovery built for it. After that it shouldnt be too much diff from what you're use too. ;)

Sadly I know nadda about bootstrap and 2ndinit.
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Did you guys get the files for the guru
 
Guys we can copy system files from the phone with Astro just attempted and it works but what do we really need pulled?
 
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