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AT&T buying Tmobile?

cigar3tte said:
Hmm, I'd have a new phone a year from now anyways, but I'd like to resell my Nexus S before it loses too much value.
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Crap, that's something I hadn't even thought of. I usually sell my old phone to pay for the majority of my new one...If this goes through, the Nexus S will be worthless. To quote Lando, this deal's getting worse all the time.
 
quantumrand said:
Crap, that's something I hadn't even thought of. I usually sell my old phone to pay for the majority of my new one...If this goes through, the Nexus S will be worthless. To quote Lando, this deal's getting worse all the time.
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I don't think it will be worthless. Besides this deal will take 12 month so your nexus S will need an upgrade lol
New Nexus LTE ?
 
AndreaCristiano said:
I don't think it will be worthless. Besides this deal will take 12 month so your nexus S will need an upgrade lol
New Nexus LTE ?
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It'll still have some value in Europe, yes. But even if I upgrade within the next year, it'll still be a T-Mobile phone and likely wont work once they roll out LTE. Also, I was planning on keeping my Nexus S for a full 18 months or more.
 
quantumrand said:
It'll still have some value in Europe, yes. But even if I upgrade within the next year, it'll still be a T-Mobile phone and likely wont work once they roll out LTE. Also, I was planning on keeping my Nexus S for a full 18 months or more.
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I dont foresee the LTE rollout being fully ready till that time frame anyway. Also by that time the nexus S will be 2 years old so it won't have that much value left
 
AndreaCristiano said:
I dont foresee the LTE rollout being fully ready till that time frame anyway. Also by that time the nexus S will be 2 years old so it won't have that much value left
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The rollout doesn't need to be complete for them to shut off the HSPA network. In fact, they will have to shut it off before the LTE rollout anyways. When they start the rollout is when the HSPA network will be shut off, at least in most major cities. More rural areas might get to use the HSPA network for 6 more months or so after that. I wholly expect the HSPA network to be shut off here well before I'm ready to upgrade my Nexus S.
 
quantumrand said:
The rollout doesn't need to be complete for them to shut off the HSPA network. In fact, they will have to shut it off before the LTE rollout anyways. When they start the rollout is when the HSPA network will be shut off, at least in most major cities. More rural areas might get to use the HSPA network for 6 more months or so after that. I wholly expect the HSPA network to be shut off here well before I'm ready to upgrade my Nexus S.
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You think ? Isn't the hspa and hspa + network being used as the fallback for LTE
 
AndreaCristiano said:
You think ? Isn't the hspa and hspa + network being used as the fallback for LTE
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They definitely won't shut down their entire HSPA network. I'm just talking about the 1700 MHz spectrum. Currently, with T-Mobile, that 1700MHz band is used for their HSPA+ network. Once the buyout goes through, AT&T will use that 1700MHz band exclusively for LTE (keeping HSPA on their 850MHz band I believe). None of the current T-Mobile phones support LTE or HSPA on 850/1900MHz, so they wont work once the 1700MHz LTE rollout begins.

I know both T-Mobile and AT&T share some bandwidth in the 2100MHz spectrum, but I'm not sure how popular this spectrum is or even if it's used for data. There's a slight chance that some T-Mobile phones will still be able to use the 2100MHz band for HSPA, but I'm pretty sure the 2100MHz coverage is pretty minimal in the US.
 
quantumrand said:
They definitely won't shut down their entire HSPA network. I'm just talking about the 1700 MHz spectrum. Currently, with T-Mobile, that 1700MHz band is used for their HSPA+ network. Once the buyout goes through, AT&T will use that 1700MHz band exclusively for LTE (keeping HSPA on their 850MHz band I believe). None of the current T-Mobile phones support LTE or HSPA on 850/1800MHz, so they wont work once the 1700MHz LTE rollout begins.

I know both T-Mobile and AT&T share some bandwidth in the 2100MHz spectrum, but I'm not sure how popular this spectrum is or even if it's used for data. There's a slight chance that some T-Mobile phones will still be able to use the 2100MHz band for HSPA, but I'm pretty sure the 2100MHz coverage is pretty minimal in the US.
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Isn't it 1900 not 1800
 
The old 3G Vibrant they don't sell anymore does have 1900 MHz UMTS, but not the new 4G HSPA+ version.
 
AndreaCristiano said:
The iphone with no sms/mms had nothing to do with AT&T that was all apple not giving the iphone that functionality because they wanted people to use email. So please dont rewrite history. Your phone plan is a prime example, when a company such as SBc or tmobile keeps pricing so low there is no money in the coffers in the end what happens? You either go out of business or someone buys you out. You can tout tmobile customer service all you want but it obviously wasnt that great because even with the awards they couldnt hold customers and bled money like a hemophiliac, hence the sale. Your rant about the most dropped calls, worst phones is subjective and is not fact. There are many people 95 million that are on AT&T and if it was as bad as you make it they would be the ones with 34 million getting assimilated. Just like the verizon iphone was gonna take so many people away from AT&T because their service was so much better, yea i saw that. I see people leaving verizon to go back to AT&T, look at the engadget article about that. So before you call me the chicken who voted for Sanders. Why dont you put the kool-aid down and like i said you have options go pick whats best for you
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Not true. I had a jailbroken iPhone and I had MMS on mine before everyone with stock iPhones did. It was at&t that blocked MMS because other iPhones around the world did it just fine. The same with tethering. It was at&t's fault, not apple.
 
chrlswltrs said:
Not true. I had a jailbroken iPhone and I had MMS on mine before everyone with stock iPhones did. It was at&t that blocked MMS because other iPhones around the world did it just fine. The same with tethering. It was at&t's fault, not apple.
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That's not true. I also had a jailbroken iPhone with mms it was Apple go Google it. IPhone was the only ATT phone without mms
 
I'm really worried if that's true about the resell value. Just because i plan to sell mine and put the price towards my next purchase.
 
2FR35H said:
Oh really? name all the major GSM providers

Its not just about cell phone providers in general the technology plays a part too.
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That's really the most likely reason the government might step in and stop the deal from going through. If AT&T successfully buys out T-Mobile, it will make them the last of the self-owned GSM carriers in the US (all others lease their spectrums).
 
quantumrand said:
That's really the most likely reason the government might step in and stop the deal from going through. If AT&T successfully buys out T-Mobile, it will make them the last of the self-owned GSM carriers in the US (all others lease their spectrums).
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No that's not enough. Simple mobile and metro pcs are on gsm plus as long as there is options for cellular service that has no bearing. For them to deny the buyout the government would have to show that tmobile had an effect on The overall market
 
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