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[Battery] Fixes and Tips

And what's the deal on my phone getting so hot? I can't even hold it to my ear to tAlk sometimes. I just have to put it on speakerphone. Does that have to do with the battery or usage or what? I have to give my phone breaks because It gets hot, but I need to use it, not leave it sitting there to cool off for 15 minutes at a time.

I love the phone. Just the biggest (and only) issues I'm having.
 
And what's the deal on my phone getting so hot? I can't even hold it to my ear to tAlk sometimes. I just have to put it on speakerphone. Does that have to do with the battery or usage or what? I have to give my phone breaks because It gets hot, but I need to use it, not leave it sitting there to cool off for 15 minutes at a time.

I love the phone. Just the biggest (and only) issues I'm having.

If the phone is running constantly, then it will get hot.

You need to do the troubleshooting steps I posted above to find out if you have an app that's constantly running.

The only alternative to performing troubleshooting steps is to do a factory reset and not install any apps for a day and see how it goes.
 
I have been searching for this but have yet to find an answer, is there a way to reset the usage statistics (up time, awake time) without resetting your phone? I would like to track this charge by charge to see if I'm getting improvement
 
The best way to diagnose what is possibly a 100% uptime issue is to install spare parts from the market. Look at battery history after the phone has been asleep (screen off) for a while. Is Running 100%? Check Partial wake usage to see if any programs have a full blue bar or anywhere near it.

Hey, I Installed & checked out Spare Parts & now my power button wont even send my phone into sleep mode.
 
And what's the deal on my phone getting so hot? I can't even hold it to my ear to tAlk sometimes. I just have to put it on speakerphone. Does that have to do with the battery or usage or what? I have to give my phone breaks because It gets hot, but I need to use it, not leave it sitting there to cool off for 15 minutes at a time.

I love the phone. Just the biggest (and only) issues I'm having.

U may have an app that is eitger not going to sleep or is using the gps. I know the gps ueage can heat up ur phone.
 
How do you "remove" FB for HTC Sense?

When I go to Settings>Accounts & Sync>etc... I removed my FB for HTC account. Is that what is meant? When I then try to add an account & use the regular FB, it won't even open when I tap it.

Also, my phone gets super hot several times a day. It's pretty annoying & I don't know what the deal is. I bought an extended battery, the Seido 1750mAh and the battery life improved somewhat - but not as much as I had expected. I am constantly doing the "ON/OFF" charge trick as well. Maybe I have a bad phone, but I don't want to jump to these conclusions if there are steps I can't take to prevent the issues. However, the 29th is in 2 days & if I need to get a new phone then now is the time to do so.

Some people have posted that they are getting 10+ hours on their phones. The best I've ever gotten is 8. Plus the fact that my phone gets hot all the time when I'm using it, I just don't think that should be happening. Any advice? I'm just learning a lot of stuff, so if you reply please don't use technological Greek. I need to understand, from the ground up, what is going on & how to solve it. Or if I just need a new phone. I don't really trust simply talking to VZW because they'll tell me to use ATK or something I've already tried. Battery still sucks, even after a month of having it.

Have you tried calling or emailing Verizon and HTC?
 
I have been reading this thread and can not figure out my problem, help?

My phone was fully charged at 750pm, it is now 1250pm and I have hardly used it since, but the battery is at 78%. Advice?
 
If you haven't already, download a battery app that can give you some real info. When your battery's holding about 4200 mV, it's charged. As soon as you unplug it, it'll drop a bit (50 or so). When it drops below a certain point it'll die. Battery 'percentages' don't necessarily mean squat.

You may also want to check to make sure your phone's sleeping correctly, by comparing 'up' and 'awake' times.

I should say that I had to invest in a larger battery regardless, I wasn't able to get through a whole day without one.

-HD
 
I have been reading this thread and can not figure out my problem, help?

My phone was fully charged at 750pm, it is now 1250pm and I have hardly used it since, but the battery is at 78%. Advice?
All you need to do is go to SETTINGS>WIRELESS & NETWORKS>MOBILE NETWORK (uncheck this option). When you are not on the internet or using an application that requires constant updates you can turn the Mobile Network off (just turn back on when using internet). I have noticed a dramatic increase in my battery life. I am talking about double or triple the time before I need to recharge. I personally don't sit on my phone using the internet all day long. This is not going to help if you are that type of person. However, on the flip side if your not using your phone for pretty good period of time then this is the way to go. No question about it. Hope this helps
 
All you need to do is go to SETTINGS>WIRELESS & NETWORKS>MOBILE NETWORK (uncheck this option). When you are not on the internet or using an application that requires constant updates you can turn the Mobile Network off (just turn back on when using internet). I have noticed a dramatic increase in my battery life. I am talking about double or triple the time before I need to recharge. I personally don't sit on my phone using the internet all day long. This is not going to help if you are that type of person. However, on the flip side if your not using your phone for pretty good period of time then this is the way to go. No question about it. Hope this helps

You don't have to be "sitting on your phone" to want your mobile data connection on. You won't receive any email messages or other updates like weather while your data connection is off.

Also, if turning this off produces a huge difference in your battery life, it's because you have applications configured to use your data connection very frequently. Making sure your applications are all set to reasonable sync periods should accomplish the same thing. Well not exactly...obviously turning off data entirely will save even more battery, but the point is if turning off your mobile data connection more than doubled your battery life, it's likely because your phone wasn't going to sleep properly due to applications syncing too frequently.
 
I have been reading this thread and can not figure out my problem, help?

My phone was fully charged at 750pm, it is now 1250pm and I have hardly used it since, but the battery is at 78%. Advice?

To expand a little on what *jfunk* said, more than likely your phone is not sleeping. Usual culprit is an App you downloaded.

Go to Settings -> About Phone -> Battery... Here you will see Up Time and Awake Time. They should not be the same. If they are the same, there is your issue. If they are not the same but close and you have not been using the phone that much, there is your issue.
 
My phone was fully charged at 750pm, it is now 1250pm and I have hardly used it since, but the battery is at 78%. Advice?

You are concerned that your phone lost 22% of its charge in 17 hours? That's great battery consumption. We have people here that are losing that much battery per hour.
 
After 3 weeks of use, my opinion is that the battery for the incredible sucks. I'm a light to moderate user. If I wanted a phone that I could only look at and not use I would not have bought the incredible. I bought the incredible to use. I usually have to charge the phone after 6 hours and then again before bed. I could use my storm for 1.5 days before needing charged and I used it way more than my incredible.
 
After 3 weeks of use, my opinion is that the battery for the incredible sucks. I'm a light to moderate user. If I wanted a phone that I could only look at and not use I would not have bought the incredible. I bought the incredible to use. I usually have to charge the phone after 6 hours and then again before bed. I could use my storm for 1.5 days before needing charged and I used it way more than my incredible.

That sucks and I definitely feel your pain. I felt that way a week or two ago. I've had some success with the some of the tips in this thread. Specifically, after a night of charging (with the phone turned on), I'll wake up and turn it off while I'm getting ready in the morning. The light goes back to red. By the time I'm ready to leave, the light is green again. Turn it on and go. I found some huge improvements by doing that.

Also, I'm not sure it's been mentioned in this thread or not, but I've recently been using ADW Launcher as a home replacement for Sense. I'm not sure if this has anything to do with it or not, but I've had my phone off the charger since about 7am, and with moderate use I'm at exactly 50% battery as of 8pm. Mind you, I'm not the type of person to be playing all day on my phone. But I play a little scrabble, do some web browsing, check email constantly, listen to a little Pandora, etc.

Hope maybe that helps someone here. Be patient. Battery life for me has consistently improved since I got the phone.
 
1750 Battery

Up Time: 14:16:45
Awake Time: 2:8:44
Cell Standby: 39 %
Phone Idle:28%
Android System: 21%
Display: 7%
Dialer: 3%
HTC Flash Player: 2%

Battery Life %: 42%

I steamed a few videos, did about 45-50 text msgs. Did not use Wifi today, I steamed about 6-8 videos youtube videos anyways. Didn't make any phone calls and read all my feeds. So probably about an hour of that was just web browsing on feeds. I have mobile networks connected, the only widget I have running the clock and weather. I do not have anything synced just because I do not like it. I have backround data on. For I do I really don't see an issue with the extended battery. I do love my Droid. I only have one concern about it. Which is really irrelevant to this thread but ill throw it out there anyways. It seems to lag a bit when scrolling through text messages but anywhere else its fine. It's not a problem just kinda bothers me. However I would love for the battery life to keep improving some how just so I can keep playing with it.
 
LOL!! :D

Probably meant 750am...
Ah yes I meant am =/ Here is some data

UpTime: 11:29:07
AwakeTime: 4:45:11
Battery: 11%
Wifi Off
Bluetooth Off
GPS off except for quick maps use
Always on Mobile Data enabled
Sync:
Backup Assistnat
Gmail
Twitter
Weather
Battery Use:
Cell Standby: 28% time without signal 7%
Phone Idle 23%
Android System 22% Data Sent 144.39 KB 111.87 KB
Maps 9%
Voice Calls 6%
Display 5%
WiFi 4%
Dialer 3%


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Ah yes I meant am =/ Here is some data

UpTime: 11:29:07
AwakeTime: 4:45:11
Battery: 11%
Wifi Off
Bluetooth Off
GPS off except for quick maps use
Always on Mobile Data enabled
Sync:
Backup Assistnat
Gmail
Twitter
Weather
Battery Use:
Cell Standby: 28% time without signal 7%
Phone Idle 23%
Android System 22% Data Sent 144.39 KB 111.87 KB
Maps 9%
Voice Calls 6%
Display 5%
WiFi 4%
Dialer 3%


Hmmm...the difference in awake time to uptime means your phone is definitely "sleeping", but you are at about 45% awake time.

I know I am stating the obvious, but your phone is awake and *working* almost half the time it is powered on. With a 1300 battery, I am not surprised you lost 22% battery over 5 hours.

What are the Sync rates set to?
 
Ah yes I meant am =/ Here is some data

UpTime: 11:29:07
AwakeTime: 4:45:11
Battery: 11%
Wifi Off
Bluetooth Off
GPS off except for quick maps use
Always on Mobile Data enabled
Sync:
Backup Assistnat
Gmail
Twitter
Weather
Battery Use:
Cell Standby: 28% time without signal 7%
Phone Idle 23%
Android System 22% Data Sent 144.39 KB 111.87 KB
Maps 9%
Voice Calls 6%
Display 5%
WiFi 4%
Dialer 3%

You've been posting this all over the place, but not returning to see some of the responses you've gotten. Anyway, I think I found your problem:

I can not get enough of widgets!

I have:

last.fm
cash counter
twitter
2 feedr widgets
nyt
google news
bbc
mets news
scoreboard
stock clock
Calender

With that I still have a blank screen
 
Yup, as I suspected...Mets fan!!!
Fix that and you're problem is solved! :D:D

Seriously though that is a LOT of widgets!!
Couple that with being up almost 50% and that battery life really ain't to shabby!
 
ok guys... I need some advice on four things.... PLEASE. I need more battery life!

1. Havent done the whole "drain battery, charge while off, replug in" thing...is it really worth it?

2. Next, I have removed the calender widget? Is that confirmed to help?

3. Does de-selecting the google chat help to add battery life?

4. Thinking about buying one of these three batteries:

  • OEM TP2 1500 battery... can any confirm extra battery life? Does it not close all the way? (any pictures?) Worth it for 17 bucks?
  • Seido 1750... or do these batteries end up giving less mAh then stock?
  • Or just wait for the OEM 2150 to be released (how much bulk will it add??)

Thanks so much in advance
 
Yup, as I suspected...Mets fan!!!
Fix that and you're problem is solved! :D:D

Seriously though that is a LOT of widgets!!
Couple that with being up almost 50% and that battery life really ain't to shabby!
i have deleted almost all of those, with those stats i have about four widgets. 2 hour sync time
 
i have deleted almost all of those, with those stats i have about four widgets. 2 hour sync time

Anything we tell you will be completely taking shots in the dark.

What we do know is your phone isn't sleeping properly. Your uptime is 50%, that's WAY too high.

The only real way to troubleshoot this if you have no idea when it started is to do a factory reset on your phone.

Then only configure/install 2-3 apps at a time, run for a whole day that way and check your statistics. When the problem begins again, you'll know it was one of those 2 or 3 things that did it and can go from there narrowing it down.
 
ok guys... I need some advice on four things.... PLEASE. I need more battery life!

1. Havent done the whole "drain battery, charge while off, replug in" thing...is it really worth it?
Hard to say, some have reported success with this. The only thing I have seen is charging while ON till green and then powering down, LED turns red and it charges the rest of the way. In my opinion though, this is more of a novelty to see that the phone is not getting a legit 100% charging while on... I have not done this in a while so long term? I'd say not worth it. IMO!!

2. Next, I have removed the calender widget? Is that confirmed to help?
Again, hard to say although there are a lot of people stating that their calendar keeps their phone from *sleeping*. I cannot give a definitive answer on this and maybe someone who has experienced it can advise...I don't use calendar at all!

3. Does de-selecting the google chat help to add battery life?
Don't use it so can't advise!

4. Thinking about buying one of these three batteries:

  • OEM TP2 1500 battery... can any confirm extra battery life? Does it not close all the way? (any pictures?) Worth it for 17 bucks?
  • Seido 1750... or do these batteries end up giving less mAh then stock?
  • Or just wait for the OEM 2150 to be released (how much bulk will it add??)
I have the Seidio 1750 and I could not be happier. Fit and function have been great. Since usage varies from person to person, I can only tell you that with "my" moderate usage (20 to 30 txts, frequent web surfing, 10 or so calls a day and maybe some pics every few days) I am usually at around 65% battery when I hit the rack at 11:00pm from a little after 7:00am. But that is me!!


Thanks so much in advance

Of course YMMV with all of this but these are my opinions!
 
ok guys... I need some advice on four things.... PLEASE. I need more battery life!

1. Havent done the whole "drain battery, charge while off, replug in" thing...is it really worth it?

2. Next, I have removed the calender widget? Is that confirmed to help?

3. Does de-selecting the google chat help to add battery life?

4. Thinking about buying one of these three batteries:

  • OEM TP2 1500 battery... can any confirm extra battery life? Does it not close all the way? (any pictures?) Worth it for 17 bucks?
  • Seido 1750... or do these batteries end up giving less mAh then stock?
  • Or just wait for the OEM 2150 to be released (how much bulk will it add??)

Thanks so much in advance

1. There seems to be something to this somewhat. People who are unplugging/replugging over and over are probably screwing with their meter more than anything. However, it seems likely that the battery indeed doesn't charge to 100% while the phone is on. This isn't really all that strange, it probably just can't hit full while under load.

If you want to do this to make sure your battery is "topped off", the best practice is probably just to turn your phone off after it's "done" charging. Once the light goes green again after shutting it off, I think that's about as good as you will get. I don't think any further "replugging" is going to do anything else.

Whether or not this is worth it for you depends on your habits. For a lot of people who shower first thing in the morning when they get up, this is pretty easy. Just shut the phone off after you wake up and it should be done by the time you shower and get dressed.

2. Certainly has for some people. I haven't followed it too much since I haven't had the issue, it seems to depend on what you're actually doing with the calendar (is this only people who sync with Exchange?). I use the small "upcoming event" widget and only sync with gmail and it doesn't seem to be causing any problems. My uptime averages around 10%.

3. I wouldn't think so. If you're receiving lots of messages obviously turning it off would reduce the usage on your phone. Mine is on all the time, but I sit in front of a desktop computer at work so most of my google chats don't ever get sent to the phone.

4. This is a hornet's nest. You're going to get a lot of different opinions here. Either battery is going to give you more life...they're bigger than the stock. Whether or not the Seido will give you more life than the 1500 is a question that can't be answered positively without somebody actually doing extensive testing. I personally think Seido is full of it and their 1750 is just a massively overpriced 1500. Whether that is true or not I cannot prove. However, if you're not sure whether 200mAh extra is worth $15 on the 1500, I certainly don't understand why you'd then consider then extra 250 the Seido claims to be worth another $35 on top of that.

As for the 2150...they aren't out yet so nobody can tell you exactly, but it does require a new back cover (it will come with it) so that means it won't fit in any of the current cases. Having to buy a new case (if you use one) will obviously further add to the expense of the battery and they also may not be available for some time after release. When they are, they may be expensive. All depends on how popular the batteries are.

Whether or not the added bulk/weight and expense is worth it to you is a matter of preference.

The question is, does your phone ALMOST last long enough for you, and you just need a little more to give you an extra hour or two to finish the night? If so, the 1500/1750 will get the job done. Or, if you are barely getting half a day and need some drastic improvement, I'd probably wait on the bigger battery (assuming of course you've done troubleshooting on your phone to make sure it's not its configuration that is causing your problems).

I'm probably a light user, but even on days when my usage could be considered moderate, I haven't had a problem with it lasting my roughly 17 hour day (6am - 11pm) without any charging during the day.
 
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