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You get that most of the time jumping from one platform to another.

I do like the way Mac os X is setup better then I do NT. I cannot stand the whole registry system in Windows! It's so messy, and can cause issues fast.
 
You get that most of the time jumping from one platform to another.

I do like the way Mac os X is setup better then I do NT. I cannot stand the whole registry system in Windows! It's so messy, and can cause issues fast.

The registry/driver system work perfeclty fine 99% of the time. Its people that don't work properly =D. Apple simply doesn't let you fool with it, which, for anyone who likes to tinker, or has just one tech savvy bone in their body, macs simply will not due.
 
When I say security, I don't mean viruses. I mean that I am not getting a cheap plastic body hardware that wouldn't last me even a year. Nor am I a software that makes me want to pull my hair out. Nor am I getting horrible customer support from people who want to blame the problem on someone else.

Hilarious. Most PCs last five+ years without problems. Where do you see these machines that don't last even a year exactly?

I can choose what I want on my computer, I can run Mac, Windows and Linux on the same computer and have support for all. No other computer allows me that flexibility or functionality. As far as hardware is concerned, no one allows you to choose processors or graphic cards. You can change processor speeds, RAM, HDD and you can do that with Apple as well.
Are you, like, a crazy person? You can get custom-built PCs from any store halfway worth its salt. You can build your own PC. I picked and chose exactly what I wanted in my current rig: nothing more, nothing less--what I had to pay was precisely what I needed, and not a single solitary cent more. Yes, I picked the processor, the mainboard, the case, the type and size of RAM, the hard drive, the PSU, everything.

And Apple software is superior and that is the reason the iPhone sold more and is selling more that other phones. And I can bet that you have never used an Apple computer on a regular basis, because if you did you'd know the difference.
Just like you have never used anything non-Apple for quite a while, apparently, given your blazing ignorance regarding the above.

You are just ignorant.
Best. Irony. Ever.
 
This accomplishes nothing. No I will not boycott Apple products because until the good stuff starts coming to Android, I love my Jailbroken MYpod. I just beat Plants vs Zombies ^.^.
The common failure among people with hatred among Apple is that it isn't the products, it's the ideals. Doesn't mean i don't like Apple, but oh well.
 
Yeah but steves "love" of html 5 is purely based off his hatred for adobe, atm. And I bet the people you know that do multimedia editing went to some sort of school, and that schools has deals with apple for severely subsidized machines, ergo their comfort for apple when it comes to this task. Like going from photoshop on a pc to apple, I find it annoying, as a lot of the shortcuts, (right click anyone?) And stuff are differnet, and hinders the process. Same goes vice versa.

Yeah, the guys I know went to school with me lol. The school was dirt poor and couldn't afford Macs, but he got a mac when he set up his studio and loves it for multimedia.

The registry/driver system work perfeclty fine 99% of the time. Its people that don't work properly =D. Apple simply doesn't let you fool with it, which, for anyone who likes to tinker, or has just one tech savvy bone in their body, macs simply will not due.
Not too much you can really tinker in windows registry that affects performance much aside from using registry hacks to disable services, visuals, etc. Plus, registry can get scrambled easily with so many programs installed, but that's what defrag is for. And I hate the driver system in windows, mainly because the companies that make them sometimes don't work well with them...ATI is one of these companies I can think of. :D With Mac, you can easily get in the sytems, or the programs. Open Package contents is just one of them. :D Plus, Apple releases sources of their kernels.
 
Hilarious. Most PCs last five+ years without problems. Where do you see these machines that don't last even a year exactly?

Are you, like, a crazy person? You can get custom-built PCs from any store halfway worth its salt. You can build your own PC. I picked and chose exactly what I wanted in my current rig: nothing more, nothing less--what I had to pay was precisely what I needed, and not a single solitary cent more. Yes, I picked the processor, the mainboard, the case, the type and size of RAM, the hard drive, the PSU, everything.

Just like you have never used anything non-Apple for quite a while, apparently, given your blazing ignorance regarding the above.

Best. Irony. Ever.

Erm.. wait? What? I'm agreeing with you... is the sky falling?
 
Probably because we're talking facts. :p Seriously, "nobody lets you pick the processor and graphic card"? Brainwashed fanboys are so damn sad.
 
Probably because we're talking facts. :p Seriously, "nobody lets you pick the processor and graphic card"? Brainwashed fanboys are so damn sad.

I literally laughed out loud when I read that. I actually put together a custom box the day before for work.
 
iphone users are so annoying. I was at a cell store last week and some middle aged woman and her boy toy were they having the sales rep look at her phone for problems.. shes saying stuff like 'it takes a special person to own an iphone' and 'who by know doesnt have an iphone..its great'.

unreal. I have noticed a common denominator with iphone users. they are either party animal, wanna-be rock stars or wanna-be intellectual 'geniuses' but only appear that way because they are vegans and read poetry down at the corner latte shop.

RRRRRRRR
 
iphone users are so annoying. I was at a cell store last week and some middle aged woman and her boy toy were they having the sales rep look at her phone for problems.. shes saying stuff like 'it takes a special person to own an iphone' and 'who by know doesnt have an iphone..its great'.

unreal. I have noticed a common denominator with iphone users. they are either party animal, wanna-be rock stars or wanna-be intellectual 'geniuses' but only appear that way because they are vegans and read poetry down at the corner latte shop.

RRRRRRRR

that's quite a generalization there. I know lots of decent people who own iphones.
 
I don't hate apple, but I do hate their overpriced computers (If I wanted an Apple computer, I could easily just look at the specs of one, and order the parts from NCIX and put it together myself for less than half the price).

Apple has a tendency to rebrand the hardware in their computers, then sell it for far more then that particular part is worth.

I can see the point of an Apple computer, but to add a huge price tag to something that can be easily gotten somewhere else for far cheaper isn't good. So I'd just look at the parts in an Apple computer, by them from NCIX, build it myself, and just install a hackintosh, it should work perfectly, and I just saved myself like $1000. I can't say this for anything else other than Alienware.


Another point is (about the iPhone this time), is that the iPhone was DESPERATELY needed by North Americans. Seriously, we were paying TONS of money for crap phones, asians were laughing at us it was so pitiful. Then, the iPhone comes out and we're close to on top. No other company would have done that, they were making money off of using crap tech for high prices. Thanks to the iPhone, we are seeing stuff that rivals and often beats asian countries cell phone tech.

However, I do agree with the first post, now that Apple isn't on top, they are acting quite whinny, Steve Jobs is constantly insulting Android and making stupid statements.



My last point. I'm totally fine if people want to pick an iPhone or any other Apple product, but usually these people don't know anything about the product, and usually only want it because it's an Apple product. I just want people to explain themselves for choosing the iPhone.

Here's a small story about the kinds of people this person told me about when he worked at an electronic store on a forum site. He noticed two types of people:
A) People who wanted an MP3 but refused to take anything other then an iPod, even if the other product was cheaper and better at the same time.

B) People who wanted an MP3 and decided to look around and ask "what does this $100 25gb iPod give me that this $75 45gb MP3 doesn't?" The answer was nothing, the $75 one was better in every way.

He noted that people that fit the A category were FAR more often than the B's.

You ask people about why they chose the iPhone, and they simply say, it's the best. You ask them why, they can't explain themselves, they just think it's the best, they don't know the competition. I mean, I have met a few people who have an iPhone and know what they're talking about, and most of the time (not all) they say that they've been observing things over the past few years, and when their contract ends, they're thinking of getting an Android phone, because it has better specs for almost the same price.
 
iphone users are so annoying. I was at a cell store last week and some middle aged woman and her boy toy were they having the sales rep look at her phone for problems.. shes saying stuff like 'it takes a special person to own an iphone' and 'who by know doesnt have an iphone..its great'.

unreal. I have noticed a common denominator with iphone users. they are either party animal, wanna-be rock stars or wanna-be intellectual 'geniuses' but only appear that way because they are vegans and read poetry down at the corner latte shop.

RRRRRRRR

I know some iPhone users who are pretty nice. Same with Android users.
 
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Apple has a tendency to rebrand the hardware in their computers, then sell it for far more then that particular part is worth.

Just about all manufactures do this, not just Apple. Charge much more for the own branded parts, even though the parts are often generic. Dell charge much more for Dell branded RAM for their laptops and a third-party would. Just like Ford do the same with Ford branded brake shoes for their cars. It's always the same.

I can see the point of an Apple computer, but to add a huge price tag to something that can be easily gotten somewhere else for far cheaper isn't good. So I'd just look at the parts in an Apple computer, by them from NCIX, build it myself, and just install a hackintosh, it should work perfectly, and I just saved myself like $1000. I can't say this for anything else other than Alienware.

Alienware is basically premium Dell these days.

I can... Sony. I've often seen Sony Vaios priced way over the odds for what you actually get, more so than Apple, e.g. Vaio X11.

I do find the Apple Laptops are extremely well built, apart from the white plastic Macbook. Much better constructed and engineered, and thus likely to last longer than a plastic Haier or HP laptop, which sells for about half the price.

iMacs and Mac Pros however, yes they're overpriced for what you actually get IMO.
 
You get that most of the time jumping from one platform to another.

I do like the way Mac os X is setup better then I do NT. I cannot stand the whole registry system in Windows! It's so messy, and can cause issues fast.
I couldn't stand whatever Mac calls a file system. I took to naming my files with obscene names so I could find them it I hit save instead of save as.
The Macs in our Photoshop class crashed more and faster than my 98SE box.
That rarely crashed, as I tossed most of Windows crap, ran under 98Lite, which meant the biggest POS, Internet Explorer was hidden so well, it couldn't/didn't/wouldn't run. I've always used WordPerfect, so I had no Office files that were vulnerable. My computers are mostly built to what I want, so I don't have to clean all the extra junk off them. And I get just the OS and nothing else, as the tech knows the first thing will be install security and not use Windows security system
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Re: MP3 players. I'm using a Sandisk Sansa that I don't have to bother with any software. I just drag stuff on the microSD card. I dislike proprietary software.
 
I couldn't stand whatever Mac calls a file system. I took to naming my files with obscene names so I could find them it I hit save instead of save as.
The Macs in our Photoshop class crashed more and faster than my 98SE box.
That rarely crashed, as I tossed most of Windows crap, ran under 98Lite, which meant the biggest POS, Internet Explorer was hidden so well, it couldn't/didn't/wouldn't run. I've always used WordPerfect, so I had no Office files that were vulnerable. My computers are mostly built to what I want, so I don't have to clean all the extra junk off them. And I get just the OS and nothing else, as the tech knows the first thing will be install security and not use Windows security system
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Sounds like you're talking about something from over 10 years ago. A long time in computer years.

Those old System 7, 8 and 9 machines where really quite awful and unreliable, unlike OS X Macs these days. But then a Mac of 10+ years ago, is not even the same computer as a Mac of today. Completely different OS and system architecture.

The really old 68k Macs had more in common with computers like the Atari ST and Commodore Amiga. Whereas Macs since 2006 are x86 PCs*.

* 'PC' meaning a personal computer with an Intel or AMD x86 compatible CPU, which can run Windows and a variety of other OSs.
 
Wow this was before I joined here. lol I think this thread would've been locked a long time ago if it was started today. So many people are sick of these kinds of threads on both sides.
 
However it's not an outright ban on screen covers, as even Saint Steve doesn't have the power to prevent other retailers from selling such products, nor does he have the power to sue every manufacturer that tries to make one (not that he'd likely have any grounds to stand on even if he tried). It does make it difficult for case manufacturers though, as if they want to be sold directly by Apple, they can't include a screen cover in the package.

Just more stupidity on Apple's part.

You are way off. First, we do not know specifically why Apple is banning these items in their stores. If they are promoting their products with screens that they say are resistant to scratches and oils then it makes sense to pull products that say the opposite.

And yes, if the store is Apple owned or operating under a franchise arrangement (I do not know either way) then Apple can absolutely dictate what can and cannot be sold.

Second, no one is suggesting that Apple will go after sellers and manufacturers of screen products. So do not take one tiny change in Apple's business and suggest Jobs is going after screen protector makers. This would never, EVER happen because they are not stupid.

Third, perhaps Apple will introduce something new and does not want competing products in their stores, This is their absolute right, you know.

Bob Maxey
 
Wow this was before I joined here. lol I think this thread would've been locked a long time ago if it was started today. So many people are sick of these kinds of threads on both sides.

Yeah, it's pretty ancient. I wish there was a way to just automatically lock a thread if no one had posted in it for a month or so. At that point it's just easier to create a new thread and reference the old one. I see a lot of zombie threads on this board.
 
Thanks to certain Apple invention computing is what it is today - pointing devices, PDA, All-in-one computers and the iPhone-like devices (which includes the N1 and numerous other Android devices).

I hate threads like these. Don't hate!

Apple did not invent the mouse. The first mouse was invented in 1963 (64,65?) Before that, in the 1950s, someone invented a trackball device. Not a mouse perhaps, but it shows an electronic pointing device is not a new idea and the patent literature shows many ideas for the mouse or some other such device.

Apple did develop the Newton, but it failed We need to consider what that really means. Does Apple alone deserve the credit or do we tip our hats to the designer of the very first such product invented in 1888?

We (Palm) developed a wildly popular take on the Newton. Today, the web would report we stole the idea from Apple. But then again, it was not a "Newton Remake," it was an entirely new idea and we made it popular. Did Apple take our ideas and make them popular too? That is to say, did Apple see how well we did and then decide sometime later to "improve" our product by introducing the iPod?

Or, did we all rise on the shoulders of those people long before us that created and patented lots of inventions that incorporate the ideas we are seeing today?

The patent office is filled with all kinds of things that in part, could be considered parts of, or forerunners of the Newton and the Palm Pilot. No shortage of devices that capture handwriting and convert it to signals to be read by various early computing devices.

I actually have a copy of a patent from 1888 (#386815) for a mechanical handwriting system. It is framed because it is so cool. It was the first patent for a tablet that captures your handwriting.

Bob Maxey
 
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