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Can someone tell me why we can't get a 32 or 64 gig phone?

Out of curiosity, out of all the apps I'm assuming games are the main culprits of being storage hogs, is that right? Looking at my current phone I don't use a lot of games, and am only using around 600MB in space. Chrome is my biggest app at roughly 66MB, where my biggest game is Super Stickman Golf at 33MB.

I'm figuring I'll likely be plenty fine with the 16GB S4, knowing I only have 1GB of space on my Evo 3D and I'm not close to filling that up yet, and the fact I'm not a big mobile gamer. I'd have to use up more then 8x more space then I am right now, and I don't see that likely happening over the course of the next 2 years.

I'm assuming the majority of people with similar usage habits to mine would likely never run into a storage space issue with the 16GB S4, and if space was getting tight, you can get a 64GB SD card for documents and media. Does that sound logical?
 
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The average 3d game now is 400 mb. Even with the smaller card and 2d games, average is over 30mb. If no game playing, 9gb should be fine.

Depending on the Android version, some phones list only what is in the system allocation and the rest in the internal "sd" mapped storage. The total of both allocations is the actual storage used in that case.
 
Games pretty much is the main storage hog, especially if you have games that needs additional data (ranges from 300mb to 1+gigs). Other than that if your a root user and keep your nandroid on the internal sd card, that'll kill your storage real quick (1.5 gigs on touchwiz rom for 1 nandroid)

However even with a 16 or 32 gig external sd card, I couldn't see anyone running into storage problems (I haven't yet with my s3), that is unless that person downloads music/videos constantly, as well as having the device filled up with games.
 
Game roms also suck space up for some of us. Video media can also eat the external space quickly. Recording or playback.

Music, pictures, etc. Depends on your own utility of the device.
 
DragonSlayer95 said:
However even with a 16 or 32 gig external sd card, I couldn't see anyone running into storage problems (I haven't yet with my s3), that is unless that person downloads music/videos constantly, as well as having the device filled up with games.
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Or books or personal documents or work documents or pictures or videos taken or...

;) :)
 

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What do you all think of this plan to get around the Google Music caching issue:

I currently link the Google Music uploader on my PC to my iTunes library and stream most of my music from my Play library in the cloud. I figured I would just use Samsung Kies and point it to my iTunes music folder instead and let it sync to the SD card (I ordered the 64GB SDXC one from Sandisk for $25 via Amazon Warehouse Deals). It can sync wirelessly via WiFi so that's a nice plus.

So with this setup I can use whatever music player I want, sync it with my iTunes library wirelessly, and not have to worry about what is in the cloud or on the device since it's all going on the SD card. This would make me feel a little better about the 16GB model.
 
i haven't seen the growth in app sizes you guys are talking about. most apps seem to be trending towards being lighter with the exception of games. let's take a look at the play store...

browse the top 30 paid apps in the play store and all of them could be installed with under 2gb of app data used. and that includes social media, office, productivity, utilities, etc.

add the top 10 paid games in the play store and that would add under 3gb. that includes some big name ea titles and angry birds, temple runner, etc.

that's 50 of the top apps in android play store that would take up less than 5gb on the device. leaving the user with more than 3gb available for a bunch of 'normal' android apps that are usually around 10mb or smaller in size. which would be at least a few hundred more apps.

looking at the data seems to support that most people just don't need a whole bunch of space for app storage aside from those loading large games. this is probably the same information google shares with the manufacturers in determining how much internal space for apps most android users need.

32gb should be an option and if one comes out i'll get it just because (;)), but the better point is about the mis-communication and incompetence of app storage space vs sd card usage (which i think google should address). trying to make the point that most people are going to need the app space doesn't seem to be accurate. the data just doesn't support that theory. just saying there is a perspective of reality that drives decision makers that aren't based on the microcosm of users that post in forums. we're important too, but on a much smaller scale. :)
 
Yes but it depends on what apps we're talking about. Specifically 3d games & cloud apps require a lot of data cache that is usually in the internal storage. Those are the apps that are getting bigger.

Both the content being pushed and marketed by providers, and hardware feature sets are counterintuitive to the storage that is being offered.

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Still when all said and done, root cause here is our carriers should be offering choice. That seems a better option than misleading customers about apps on sd cards.
 
rushmore said:
2. Verizon likes Nickleback......... AND Limp Bizkit. If that ain't a mega-slam, not sure what is.


Edit: I almost removed the Limp Bizkit part due to going too low, but they deserve it.
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Verizon - for shame. They "did it all for the nookie..." ;)

I hope T-Mobile gets the 32 gig Galaxy S4 soon. I really would like to upgrade.
 
Sprint and Tmo are hungry for new customers, so if there is any chance to gain or keep customers, they will add the 32gb. The odd one out of the "big ones" is Verizon. I can not help but think that some of their people are brilliant in their own mind:

Marketing genius while showing a pretty Power Point slide:

"I have a game changer here! If we just sell the 16gb and price as the 32gb from last year, there will be no customer sense of differentiation. Based on the expected mean of sales, we can increase margin by selling just the 16GB!"

Recent hire that happens to be at the meeting and loaded with new-enthusiasm:

"But the engineer devs are saying the storage is low after out of box installs. Could we at least offer the 32GB as well and charge $50 more?".

A cold silence covers the room. Marketing genius says:

"What low storage?! EVERYBODY knows you can install apps to the sd card! Next!".

Marketing and finance bust out in a group dance similar to the silly Microsoft Surface commerical. New hire goes to a corner, starts sucking his thumb and thinking of a happy place.
 
If anyone doubts the increased interest in a S4 model with more storage, check out a local AT&T today onwards.

Carriers not offering one while also misleading customers are setting themselves up for bad PR.
 
I think eventually all main carriers along with eventual Samsung prodding should get 32gb models in more retail channels. Catch is that will not be soon.
 
dgold82 said:
Hey rushmore, I thought you would like to see a few snippets from my chat with Verizon. Every once in awhile I like to check in with them to see what they are telling people out there:

Sigh--I like how she wanted me to go to a class about it! I sent her a couple links about the issue and told her to educate herself.
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I'm sure the answer is no but figured I'd ask anyway.

is downloading to the SD Card the same thing per say as downloading to internal memory and transferring the app to the SD Card?

or is transferring to the SD card the only way to put appz on the SD Card to begin with?
 
Lacit1707 said:
I'm sure the answer is no but figured I'd ask anyway.

is downloading to the SD Card the same thing per say as downloading to internal memory and transferring the app to the SD Card?
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Not sure what you mean but if it's about personal media and data - the answer is a qualified yes.

All media and a lot of your other data - books, documents - can go to the sd card.

But not all apps can access it there directly.

You cannot transfer apps to the sd card.

or is transferring to the SD card the only way to put appz on the SD Card to begin with?
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There is NO putting apps on the sd card, outside of root, and even then, only with severe performance penalties.

You cannot transfer apps to the sd card.
 
EarlyMon said:
Not sure what you mean but if it's about personal media and data - the answer is a qualified yes.

All media and a lot of your other data - books, documents - can go to the sd card.

But not all apps can access it there directly.

You cannot transfer apps to the sd card.

There is NO putting apps on the sd card, outside of root, and even then, only with severe performance penalties.

You cannot transfer apps to the sd card.
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In all these folks defense, both Samsung and the carriers are pushing this BS.
 
rushmore said:
In all these folks defense, both Samsung and the carriers are pushing this BS.
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Well, lets hope this coming Wednesday evening when here in the UK the BBC Watchdog program (which for those not in the know Watchdog is a major consumer program where they 'invite' CEO's and all manner of Exec's to come on the show and give account) will raise the bar.
Watchdog don't take prisoners.
 
I talked to my local store yesterday, hoping they had 32GB units, but none have arrived yet. They indicated they will work with me to exchange my 16Gb unit. We'll see how that shakes out.

I can probably make do with a 16GB S4, but prefer a 32GB to have more headroom... just in case. I expect to have this phone for the next couple of years...

Edit: out of curiosity... how much room do the 16GB GN2 phones have after the OS and bloatware are loaded? I had my GN2 for less than 10 days and don't recall.
 
You have to marvel at the irony of the large hubub deal with EA/Gameloft releasing/optimizing a whole bunch of games for the S4 when you have hardly any space to store them thanks to Samsung failing to offer 32/64GB models.

Getting quite annoyed at the fact we are receiving no information on these. The snapdragon one is available in 32GB but that's it.
Samsung delivering a Huawei-style media blackout with S4 news. They've no doubt received a mountain of enquiries (including one from me) but have chosen to ignore them all, quite unacceptable.

A 'we'll provide more details when we can' response simply won't fly, they've had long enough.
 
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