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Root [CDMA] Not feelin it yet, who's with me?

I thought Macs would let a user dual boot a non-Apple OS, like years ago. Or was that just virtual machines?
 
jerofld said:
I thought Macs would let a user dual boot a non-Apple OS, like years ago. Or was that just virtual machines?
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yeah, you still can, if you install windows on a separate partition..plus with the newly released Lion, the procedure is a little different than it was in the past..
 
wase4711 said:
yeah, you still can, if you install windows on a separate partition..plus with the newly released Lion, the procedure is a little different than it was in the past..
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I would actually recommend Linux, as you don't have to buy a copy if you don't have a licensed copy of Windows lying around. However, it may be the easiest/best/quickest solution for you.
 
jerofld said:
I would actually recommend Linux, as you don't have to buy a copy if you don't have a licensed copy of Windows lying around. However, it may be the easiest/best/quickest solution for you.
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funny, I tried to instal Ubuntu 11 64 bit yesterday, or, at least do a "trial" installation of it, but it wouldn't do the trial install...
here again, its that new Lion version of OSX that I think is pretty picky about stuff. especially since it just hit last week..
 
wake69 said:
did you tru ubuntu 10.04?

Someone at xda said this worked for them
Download | Ubuntu
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thats the exact file I tried; it booted the cd, and when I chose "trial instal", the screen went dark, and nothing happened for 30 minutes..

here again, I bet its the "new" macosx Lion I recently upgraded to, that doesn't play well with it for right now...
 
In response to the title, I'm so feeling it, lol. I'm no developer and the only exposure I've had to root was unrevoked for the 4G and temp root for the 3vo. I had some hiccups, but all that did was make me figure things out. Figuring things out helps with understanding the whole process. It was kind of fun until I tried to make a call and got the error. A few quick searches and I had that solution as well. Good times in the 3vo world.
 
FWIW - I used Parallels and Windows on a Mac (Snow Leopard) to do mine - the chatter at XDA about USB not working through a virtual machine is just untrue.

So - Lion's not ready for full dual-boot primetime? Bummer. Leopard had the same slow starts.

By the way - have you tried 32-bit Ubuntu? Is the 64-bit rev a requirement?
 
EarlyMon said:
FWIW - I used Parallels and Windows on a Mac (Snow Leopard) to do mine - the chatter at XDA about USB not working through a virtual machine is just untrue.

So - Lion's not ready for full dual-boot primetime? Bummer. Leopard had the same slow starts.

By the way - have you tried 32-bit Ubuntu? Is the 64-bit rev a requirement?
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well, no, I have been using the 64 bit version...Maybe the 32 bit version would be better..
They just released Boot Camp instructions for Lion/Windows; maybe Ubuntu requires something different..

my wife has vmware installed on her mac, and she is running snow leopard, and not Lion..Maybe I should try it on her machine, assuming VMware would run similarly to Parallels

Thanks for the ideas!
 
I've used both Parallels and VMWare and find that they're equivalent-by-leapfrog -- depending on revision at any point in time, one is better than the other, then they update...
 
themuffinman75 said:
Maybe true but this error code issue has been pretty wide spread for those that did root. Before this permanent root how many threads have you seen with someone with a 3vo complain about error code 16? Like I said earlier I have performed several hard rests to 3 different 3vos and haven't had this issue at all. This weekend I rooted 5 3vo's(not including mines) and every last one of them had the error code issue. In my opinion this is more than just something random.
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I hard reset at least 10 phones a day at work and error code 16 comes up about 50% of the time and not just with the EVO 3D. Almost none of the phones I deal with are rooted either.
 
If you temp-rooted, then the full root will be a breeeeeeeeeeeze.
 
mynamewastaken said:
If you temp-rooted, then the full root will be a breeeeeeeeeeeze.
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I didn't temp root and it was still pretty easy. Although, I do have previous rooting / phone modding experience. So, I would read one thing, do it, re-read the same step, make sure I did it, move on to next step. Double checking you did all the steps as written and reading/performing steps as you do them saves a lot of headaches when modding.

A lot of headaches.
 
jerofld said:
I didn't temp root and it was still pretty easy. Although, I do have previous rooting / phone modding experience. So, I would read one thing, do it, re-read the same step, make sure I did it, move on to next step. Double checking you did all the steps as written and reading/performing steps as you do them saves a lot of headaches when modding.

A lot of headaches.
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I have working experience in Unix and Linux as well as having rooted 2 Optimus S's, and EVO 4G, and now this one and lol, I still get a little nervous about rooting because it is something to take seriously. One can't stress enough the importance of prep-work. May be a waste of paper, but I print out all instructions and put them in the order I am going to do them. I check for any software requirements and make sure everything is set up before I attempt anything. I wait for a time when I will be uninterrupted (a rarity in my life...been known to mess with my phone at midnight ;) ), read each step carefully before I do it, and mark each step after I have completed it. Its like the DIY "measure twice, cut once" kind of thing :)
 
The good news is that so far, we haven't had ANY reports of Revolutionary failing at achieving the S-OFF part, which is the biggest hurdle. And no reports of phones bricking on that step.

Once you have S-OFF, it becomes really, really hard to screw up your phone. If you think you have a brick, there's likely an easy fix, like reflashing a recovery, or reflashing a ROM.
 
novox77 said:
The good news is that so far, we haven't had ANY reports of Revolutionary failing at achieving the S-OFF part, which is the biggest hurdle. And no reports of phones bricking on that step.

Once you have S-OFF, it becomes really, really hard to screw up your phone. If you think you have a brick, there's likely an easy fix, like reflashing a recovery, or reflashing a ROM.
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Yes, that is great news. I am so glad to have root back!! :D Tried to tell myself I would hold out but I just couldn't do it.
 
AlphaRevX and unrevoked did a really good job here. It being a "beta" seems that they're just being protective/paranoid. It was a really smooth process. I'm glad they took as long as they did to make the process as smooth as it is. Sure, it's not 1-click, but all the ADB and programming work is done for us. The most difficulty I had was entering the beta key. With that font, it was hard to tell capital I from lower case l.
 
jerofld said:
AlphaRevX and unrevoked did a really good job here. It being a "beta" seems that they're just being protective/paranoid. It was a really smooth process. I'm glad they took as long as they did to make the process as smooth as it is. Sure, it's not 1-click, but all the ADB and programming work is done for us. The most difficulty I had was entering the beta key. With that font, it was hard to tell capital I from lower case l.
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I agree, they did a fantastic job. As for the beta key, I got pretty lucky there (I SWEAR I am going to play the lotto soon before my luck runs out)...not one upper-case "i" or lower-case "l" in mine. :p
 
EarlyMon said:
I've used both Parallels and VMWare and find that they're equivalent-by-leapfrog -- depending on revision at any point in time, one is better than the other, then they update...
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well, I tried it using my wife's snow leopard/vmware combo; I can NOT get s-off..everything looks fine, I enter the serial number, it starts to root, fast boot menu comes up, and I still have s-0n
I've done it 3 times; for some reason, the virtual machine loses connection with the phone when it does the first reboot into the fast boot screen...damn virtual machine!

My wife should be bringing home her win7 corp laptop tonight, so I will be asking nicely if I can do it on there...
I got so excited when it started the process, actually thinking I could do it through a virtual machine!!
oh well, try later
 
There was a config option in VMWare to allow the USB to have control maintained by the VM OS vs. the Mac, fwiw.

Parallels throws pop-ups for it now (didn't used to).

Just for the record, for next time.
 
Thanks, man..I was going to hold out for a mac solution, but my wife brought her work laptop home for me, with win 7, so we bees havin' ROOT!!

took all of 5 minutes..actually easier than the evo4g was..

nand'ing now, and then its flash time!!

Also, time to move to a 32 gig sd!!
 
wase4711 said:
Thanks, man..I was going to hold out for a mac solution, but my wife brought her work laptop home for me, with win 7, so we bees havin' ROOT!!

took all of 5 minutes..actually easier than the evo4g was..

nand'ing now, and then its flash time!!

Also, time to move to a 32 gig sd!!
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Yeah, I had to buy a 32 gig sd card, too. After a NAND, only had 300MB left. Ouch.

But grats on S-OFF. It was really smooth.
 
Sorry, Still not feelin it yet. I keep reading this forum and the XDA and I have still not been convinced to use the current permanent root developed by Revolutionary. I see a fair amount of people that have done it and are now happy, but I see just as many who had to follow up with some sort of fix, or calling Sprint, or something not quite working. I'm holding out for a more stable way to root like I had with Unrevoked for my Evo 4G.

With the temp root I am using at present I get everything I want for now, except I can not get WiFi Tether or Barnacle to work consistently. From what I read the permanent root does not fix that situation. I've tried most of the suggestions to fix those in this forum, but still not working.
 
nykbob said:
Sorry, Still not feelin it yet. I keep reading this forum and the XDA and I have still not been convinced to use the current permanent root developed by Revolutionary. I see a fair amount of people that have done it and are now happy, but I see just as many who had to follow up with some sort of fix, or calling Sprint, or something not quite working. I'm holding out for a more stable way to root like I had with Unrevoked for my Evo 4G.

With the temp root I am using at present I get everything I want for now, except I can not get WiFi Tether or Barnacle to work consistently. From what I read the permanent root does not fix that situation. I've tried most of the suggestions to fix those in this forum, but still not working.
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whenever you're ready, we'll be around to help out. :)
 
I used the youtube guide for revolutionary and before I started i'm not sure i knew what i was doing lol. thanks to the video and google+ android circle it was actually very easy. It did not install CWM but i did not care! I had s-off and that was the goal. I ended up flashing TWRP and I'm a happy camper! I've flashed 3 roms, some themes, and changed the bootloader.

Here's the guide i used

[GUIDE] Video obtaining S-OFF/Root using Revolutionary + TeamWin Recovery Guide - xda-developers
 
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