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A resent article I read said that, at least in the UK, texting is more common then phone calls. I.e. people will text 6 times a day and make only 2 calls.
The US is probably not that far off.
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A resent article I read said that, at least in the UK, texting is more common then phone calls. I.e. people will text 6 times a day and make only 2 calls.
The US is probably not that far off.
rushmore
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I live in KY and call range is just as good as the Droid 3 and Razr. The ironic thing is the Droid 3 smokes both the GS3 and Razr for 3G reception and range in regards to actual results. I would have waited to check out the HD, but despise fixed navigation bars taking up space on a smaller display. Being too easy to hit the buttons when playing games seals it for me. Gnex was awful with game emulators for this reason.
Added: Seems criminal really... A fixed nav bar taking up precious space.... It just ain't right.
Added 2: Fixed battery is not preferred either... Me thinks there will be a HD Maxx, two months after release
So one of the phones on my accounts was lost and I was actually in Las Vegas when it happened. I decided to go for the Razr Maxx (Still holding out for the Razr HD for my line). Anyway, I decided to give my Gnex to the lost phone line and put the Maxx on mine.
The one thing I can say is: This thing is a BEAST!
The battery life is out of this world. I thought that I was a moderate to heavy (at times) user and I still couldn't get this damn phone under 40%
Basically, I ran out of things to do on the phone to drain the battery down below 40% by the end of the day (we're talking 21 hours of wake time for me) I just couldn't do it. The Google Navigation is the biggest battery hog that I know. I had that thing on for 45 minutes and it barely took out 7% of battery. That's insane.
I really liked the Gnex for the ICS and software buttons as well as the bigger screen. (my only complaint with the razr maxx)......but there's no freakin way I'm ever going back to samsung with their crappy battery life after traveling for hours with the maxx.
If you haven't tried the maxx and are holding out for the Razr HD try it and you'll NEVER go back to sub-3000 mah batteries ever again.
Can't wait for this phone to finally come out. It's gonna be a monster.
:congrats:
arty:
The one thing I can say is: This thing is a BEAST!
The battery life is out of this world. I thought that I was a moderate to heavy (at times) user and I still couldn't get this damn phone under 40%
Basically, I ran out of things to do on the phone to drain the battery down below 40% by the end of the day (we're talking 21 hours of wake time for me) I just couldn't do it. The Google Navigation is the biggest battery hog that I know. I had that thing on for 45 minutes and it barely took out 7% of battery. That's insane.
I really liked the Gnex for the ICS and software buttons as well as the bigger screen. (my only complaint with the razr maxx)......but there's no freakin way I'm ever going back to samsung with their crappy battery life after traveling for hours with the maxx.
If you haven't tried the maxx and are holding out for the Razr HD try it and you'll NEVER go back to sub-3000 mah batteries ever again.
Can't wait for this phone to finally come out. It's gonna be a monster.
:congrats:
arty:
red66charger
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I haven't missed my GNex once since I traded it for a Maxx. When VZW GNex gets the Jellybean OTA I might be a little bummed.
Seems this HD will finally get NFC. Also has SVDO, but that was expected since I am guessing all the Qualcomm MSM8960 stuff will get that.
Motorola XT926 (DROID RAZR HD) Cruises Through FCC With Verizon Radios and NFC – Droid Life
Motorola XT926 (DROID RAZR HD) Cruises Through FCC With Verizon Radios and NFC – Droid Life
JB has been pretty much buttery awesomeness on the VZW Nexus since the day the GSM JB build was ported to the VZW Nexus a less than a day after I/O. Not all ports were 100% stable and really not sure any are yet even, but most have been and are good enough if you don't use your GNex as an extreme mission critical device.
red66charger
Android Expert
Woohoo! The one spec I most want to see is that battery. Usually one of the last specs to be confirmed though.
Insider over at howard forums basically said the Maxx was a mistake in being a post launch option. So this will either have a Maxx version on day one or be a Maxx sorta capability standard. Guess the Maxx wildly outsold the standard version once it hit and caused so much PR issue with OG RAZR buyers they know not to repeat.
If they drop the ball on the monster battery life I hope Moto bends over and takes it in the pants because after a battery like this there's just no going back. No way.
I've been using cellphones since 1998 and this is the first time I feel confident in leaving my home without a charger. There's just no knocking out this battery in a day. It punches back.
Looking thru the FCC docs...I saw:
Battery 2530 mAh. Maybe its just for testing purposes....or there is gonna be two versions at launch? Its either this:
or this:
And LTE Voice : Yes (3rd party VOIP clients only) Wonder what does this mean?
Battery 2530 mAh. Maybe its just for testing purposes....or there is gonna be two versions at launch? Its either this:
or this:
And LTE Voice : Yes (3rd party VOIP clients only) Wonder what does this mean?
Yeah. 2530mah to me sorta suggests a middle ground accounting for more power efficient second gen LTE chipset. Probably not as great overall as the Maxx, but wouldn't be so marginal battery wise so as to really get on peoples nerves if a Maxx did show up later. And allows for a "RAZR" thinness.
Hopefully there is a Maxx version at launch with something bigger than this also as the SIII isn't far off this in the 2000+mah stock range and is replaceable with probably 4000+mah aftermarket options about to hit. If 2530mah is going to be the ONLY option I am expecting the new ColorBoost LCD to be smallish. A SIII competitive sized LCD would just require more battery than this to challenge the current Maxx.
Hopefully there is a Maxx version at launch with something bigger than this also as the SIII isn't far off this in the 2000+mah stock range and is replaceable with probably 4000+mah aftermarket options about to hit. If 2530mah is going to be the ONLY option I am expecting the new ColorBoost LCD to be smallish. A SIII competitive sized LCD would just require more battery than this to challenge the current Maxx.
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Torn between developer SIII or the HD. The battery should be good at 2500. My DX on the extended battery (1840) is good about 95% of the time. I'd like a removable for long airplane flights, but that is only a few times a year.
Lots of things are on the fence on a HD purchase.
1) Volume of speaker. DX sucks.
2) Screen brightness. SIII is dim.
3) BT and aux jack at the same time like my DX. SIII cannot do music through the headphone and BT calls at the same time?!
Not sure on the HD now that my DX has lost root with .621 update. I've always had root on the DX, but the last update somehow removed it and hasn't been broken yet. I fear more devices, HD, will be locked down pretty hard. I don't do roms often and don't really care if I can, but root is mandatory! My DX cant get root right now. Hence, my desire to just do a developer version of the verizon SIII direct from Samsung.
rushmore
Extreme Android User
First of all, Moto would have to really screw up for the HD not to rock.
As far as the GS3, the display does not get as bright as the Razr, but at full brightness, the Razr is too bright. There are two settings that are on by default that makes the GS3 look dim, but plenty bright once those settings are turned off. I fell "victim" to the settings and cried that a demo was dim, but turns out I was dim. The display on the GS3 is amazing and apparently the HD uses similar tech.
My GS3 performs a little under the Razr for 3G, but better with 4g. Call range is the same. The two trumps IMO for the GS3 is a replaceable battery and no fixed navigation bar hogging display space.
As far as the GS3, the display does not get as bright as the Razr, but at full brightness, the Razr is too bright. There are two settings that are on by default that makes the GS3 look dim, but plenty bright once those settings are turned off. I fell "victim" to the settings and cried that a demo was dim, but turns out I was dim. The display on the GS3 is amazing and apparently the HD uses similar tech.
My GS3 performs a little under the Razr for 3G, but better with 4g. Call range is the same. The two trumps IMO for the GS3 is a replaceable battery and no fixed navigation bar hogging display space.
I am also concerned about the display size to device size relationship of the HD. Particularly with the onscreen NAV stuff. That means it really needs to be about a full 5" to match the SIII in remaining display real estate. The display tech of the Atrix HD seems to be as good or better than the Samsung AMOLED stuff so that should be good, but size could be an issue while not really getting a smaller device with the smaller display.
To me, ROMs are really where it's at if you have a device well supported by the different Dev teams. This is much less true if you have a less supported device. My wife for example has the Droid Charge and there is really nothing useful in the ROM world for that phone at all. You can really only get gussied up customized and repackaged TouchWiz stuff for it.
With my GNex though, even the VERY early GSM JellyBean based ports on day one of the JellyBean IO announcement were pretty much very usable and had all the butter Google promised earlier that day. When AOSP hit and everyone started building 4.1.1 stuff it was a bit less stable actually, but now everything is pretty good again.
Basically though can't see why one would see root mandatory, but not see a lot of value in unlocked BL and custom ROMs also.
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1st thing I used to want root for is wifi tethering. I know there are apps now, one at least, that can do without root. However, the past week with no root has made me realize the worst thing without root is....
FREAKING POP UP ADS! Wow, I had forgot about how annoying it is in games, streaming apps, etc. I'd have to say blocking ads is just as important wifi tether.
Root on the SIII removes silly pop up notifications on WiFi, adds functionality to the phone, etc. Root, TO ME, is very important.
Yeah. But there are LOTS and LOTS of things you get with proper custom rom that are VERY handy. Stuff like WiFi tether exactly as Google intended, but without network really being able to track you doing it easily, toggles in the status pull down like Samsung TouchWiz(except whichever ones you want), custom NAV bar buttons for devices such as the RAZR HD will be, custom stock browser with stuff like UA spoof for desktop sites, and various other things that maybe are possible with just Root, but tend to work even better when built as part of a custom ROM.
Generally though any sort of customizing you might do with root is even better and can be more stable when built from the get go into a ROM.
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Youre not implying the HD will be unlocked/unencrypted are you. That will never happen.
Oh sorry. Not at all.
More suggesting there are probably limited reasons to WAIT around for it if you are ready to replace the DX. The Dev SIII is an awesome option really.
Moto did a Dev RAZR, but NOT VZW Droid one. I suppose there is a SLIGHT chance Samsung's move with the Dev SIII could give Moto bargaining power to offer such a competing device, BUT not sure Moto is interested in Dev devices in all reality.
Only real advantages I think you can count on Moto having are more premium material build and maybe reception/call quality. I expect reception and call quality advantages to be less pronounced with these two devices than normal though since both will use same baseband and such as far as we know.
red66charger
Android Expert
I revise my earlier statement about battery size being my #1 burning question about specs. I've read the information above in several posts and am getting a little concerned. I'm speaking out of ignorance here...how do we know this? Is this new for Moto? If so, is there a possibility that Moto's stellar radio performance could suffer with this tech? I would be so bummed.
Not at all. Moto won't suffer so much as Samsung will become a lot more competitive with them. The last several Samsung device have used basebands that are known to be pretty crappy for CDMA use and had LTE internally developed by Samsung and of probably less that leading grade. Moto used Qualcomm all along for their CDMA baseband and has used their own GSM/LTE baseband. Troubles with development of the Moto GSM/LTE baseband was the reason Bionic was delayed so long.
This year everything will be using a more or less total Qualcomm setup as Qualcomm has the Krait snapdragon core that is going to be the best processor until ARM A15 stuff shows up next year. They also integrated this core with their baseband chip on one chip. This is a pretty "ahead of the game" component if you will, so companies would foolish to use anything else this year really.
Moto's advantage with voice reliability and call quality are partially antenna and component integration know how along with proprietary software/firmware tuning know how so they will probably still have some advantages in these respects. It's just that they will now be using the same components as Samsung on Verizon, where as in the past couple years Samsung has been using some very inferior components for Verizon products, probably to save cost and increase margin on these more or less one off device specially for VZW. With the SIII they got Verizon to take a device that is really very similar to what they are selling AT&T and Sprint(not sure there are even any actual hardware differences so much as software and radio firmware) so there was less reason to cut corners on component costs and sourcing.
Really feel though picking the RAZR HD over SIII choice is going to be more about less plastic build this time around rather than differences in call reception and quality that became the bigger deal with RAZR and GNex. Samsung will just be A LOT closer this time around in that regard.
Here is a good explanation of why Samsung stuff on VZW has been crap for CDMA reception. And it's not like they have been totally worthless. My GNex works fine for me, but I live in COMPLETE 3G and near complete LTE covered area. I just never hang out where there might be a bit troublesome signal, even for a poor baseband.
The Radio Performance Disparity of the Galaxy Nexus on GSM and CDMA - Mobile Central - Binary Outcast
SIII has the newest and best Qualcomm baseband. Moto has been using Qualcomm CDMA basebands all along and also has a lot of antenna and baseband firmware know how that give it an even better advantage. Once you are talking same basebands though, that advantage is less quantifiable/noticeable in daily use than what many found between GNex and RAZR.
The Radio Performance Disparity of the Galaxy Nexus on GSM and CDMA - Mobile Central - Binary Outcast
SIII has the newest and best Qualcomm baseband. Moto has been using Qualcomm CDMA basebands all along and also has a lot of antenna and baseband firmware know how that give it an even better advantage. Once you are talking same basebands though, that advantage is less quantifiable/noticeable in daily use than what many found between GNex and RAZR.
red66charger
Android Expert
Many thanks Jasaero. That was fabulous info.