OfTheDamned
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Discuss all Moto Droid Razr/Maxx HD rumors/release date/speculation/news
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OfTheDamned
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Sandroidfan
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Seems like very decent sequel to original Droid Razr series. I think Moto should have released Razr HD already in summer as HTC, LG are readying to bring out phones/phablets with S4 Pro (Adreno 320 GPU) soon this Fall.
And I personally don't see the point of M version. Who's going to get that when much better ones are just a few months away after that.
And I personally don't see the point of M version. Who's going to get that when much better ones are just a few months away after that.
Money. This way they can charge you $200 for the HD and $300 for the MAXX HD, getting $100 just for adding only 800mah to the battery. It's pure extra profit. Without that, they'd have a hard time justifying a phone with ICS and weaker specs than the GS3 for more money.
OfTheDamned
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A lot of people have been making that comment or similar about the Razr M. Personally, I think it was a good move on Moto's part. Not everyone wants a huge phone or cares about a huge screen. The problem is that people still want the specs and most of the smaller phones out there don't have the specs that the larger phones do. At $99 (after rebate) you still get a device with Motorola build quality and great specs, but without the huge device size. I can easily see this being the smartphone of choice for a lot of women or teens.
OfTheDamned
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Adding 800 Mah to the battery AND 16 GB to the memory for $100.
Sorry for leaving the $4 in extra memory costs out. Last I checked that's all it costs for a 16GB microsd on the cheap.
Also just realized I haven't seen any specs on if the phone has a memory card slot or not. Does anyone know? Assuming I just missed it in the press release.
Well this site says it does ". It has 16GB of built in storage which is expandable via a micro SD card slot." So that's good. Having all the storage built in can be a real pain for keeping data through different issues with roms and such.
OfTheDamned
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The specs show that all of them have an SD card slot.
With the memory, if it is a matter of getting a 16 GB SD card vs a 32 GB SD card then it isn't worth it. If the memory is internal, that could be considered a horse of a different color.
Sandroidfan
Android Expert
I need to look at dimensions of them. But from the pictures, Razr M doesn't look any narrower or thinner than HD, just a little shorter. And it's got just qHD screen like OG Razr.
Wow just getting home to see all the videos, so much to look at....
Why in this video does the Razr HD screen look smaller than the Razr Maxx HD. I can see the one in the middle is the M and it's smaller but the ones on the other sides the white is the Razr HD and the black on the end is the Razr Maxx but they look like different sizes, the Maxx looks so much bigger. Is this true??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9StHBrAJJyA&feature=player_embedded
Why in this video does the Razr HD screen look smaller than the Razr Maxx HD. I can see the one in the middle is the M and it's smaller but the ones on the other sides the white is the Razr HD and the black on the end is the Razr Maxx but they look like different sizes, the Maxx looks so much bigger. Is this true??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9StHBrAJJyA&feature=player_embedded
No, they are the same size, same specs, just one has a 2500mah battery and 16GB storage, the other a 3300 mah battery and 32GB of storage.. Overall minimally different. The reason one looks smaller than the other is the white vs black. The black looks bigger just as an optical illusion because the edges of the screen blend in with it so well. This is what happens when you put an amoled screen on a phone.
I wouldn't count on this unless you are talking average auto brightness rather than max brightness capability. These AMOLED screens pixels only last a very finite amount of time and that decreases as normal brightness they are lit at over their lifetime goes up. This is part of the reason they are tuned a bit dim. Worse yet the SMALLER the pixels the harder it is for them to be made reliable and long lasting at high average overall brightnesses. Pretty sure this is the reason Nokia had always stuck with pretty low res low pixel density AMOLED stuff when they were using it as it enabled them to increase normal and max brightness capability without fear of torching pixels early. They have now switched to LCD though as it can be made bright in a much safer manner through use of higher output backlighting.
At the end of the day Samsung will produce BOTH displays. So if you want a Moto with a brighter display you are asking for a display that is going to dim and lose pixels earlier in the displays lifetime. Blue will be the first to fade and go. What you want is LCD. Such as the Lumia 900. It has extreme output LCD along with a polarization filter for EXTREME outdoor readability. And now that it's LCD it's also high pixel density. COULD be pentile RGBW though as Nokia seems to like those also, but they are technically good if you are after max brightness capability. I personally hate them, but you might like and I might not frown as much on one like this with a higher pixel density.
I think the bigger issue is it's too close to the HD. If it's meant to be a premium "svelte" phone, then WHY does the HD have to be SMALLER than than SIII? I get the Maxx HD, but not so much the HD.
And ALL of them have plenty of room for bezel touch nav buttons?? If you want the configurable onscreen nav stuff get a dev version and have the bezel stuff disabled or co-usable with a custom rom that reenables onscreen nav. Not sure if that's being done yet, but that's MUCH more doable than adding bezel touch nav buttons to these devices without them.
So basically they finally grow the screen into more properly packaged devices and then handicap the newly grown screens sizes with onscreen nav buttons WITHOUT reducing lower bezel and chin sizes!! If there was almost no lower bezel or chin left I would get it. Is is almost as if they removed the buttons as much to put VZW branding in a prominent way as much anything else.
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I'm looking at all 3 phones here...and it does look like the border around the screen on the RAZR and Maxx HD is smaller than the RAZR and Maxx So it might not be too bad.
Pentile was barely an issue on the RAZR and Bionic IMO. IMO...the Bionic Pentile issue was waaay overblown. Thats from comparing it to my RAZR. It was even less of an issue on the G Nex. It will be even less on these phones.
I'm looking at all 3 phones here...and it does look like the border around the screen on the RAZR and Maxx HD is smaller than the RAZR and Maxx So it might not be too bad.
Pentile was barely an issue on the RAZR and Bionic IMO. IMO...the Bionic Pentile issue was waaay overblown. Thats from comparing it to my RAZR. It was even less of an issue on the G Nex. It will be even less on these phones.
IHateMyTreo
Android Expert
Post #1 has been updated with links to the Moto spec sheets. Moto press release too.
Edit: Hey thickness differential is .9mm. Nothing most people could even notice.
Edit: Hey thickness differential is .9mm. Nothing most people could even notice.
This is quite clear with the width specs and larger 4.7" screen. The OG's were 68.9mm wide and the HD's are 67.9mm. So you have a mm less width and a .4" larger screen. It's really the same bezel realm as the Galaxy SIII. This aspect is great about this phone.
Other than wanting something more in the SIII or Note 2 screen size range the lack of LCD is my biggest disappointment. Had hoped they kept the Atrix HD colorboost sorta screen for future stuffs. I'm just not a fan of AMOLED.
I find it kind of hard to touch the very bottom of a phone. Hitting the GS3 nav buttons is very hard because they are so low down. Most people don't mod their phones. Motorola is aiming to please the average consumer, and so they had to leave the bottom bezel. If they had removed it and put the nav buttons on the screen close to the bottom you'd have trouble touching the buttons. The same if they put the nav buttons below the screen super low down. If the phone was smaller it would be viable, but not when it is this big.
Depends how you hold the phone I suppose. I've never found that to be an issue the way I hold it. I'm more annoyed by the new 4.X menu buttons that always in the upper right side of apps. I add menu back as always on and usable softkey on my GNex just cause of that. Suppose if you can't do that you start biasing your hold higher??
Hah, at the end of the day I would prefer something that will never happen in a 4 softnav bezel button device that includes an always usable menu key.
Another comment that hasn't been made is that I think everyone is holding back judgement on the camera capabilities of this phone until more is known, but I fear the limited details in today's initial marketing push point toward this being another little if any improved aspect.
The more I think about this device the more I realize the build and material quality is the only thing they aren't following Samsung's lead on where they SHOULDN'T be. They have the HD AMOLED when they should have went with colorboost. They have minimally improved camera when that should have been as big or bigger effort than getting build and material right. But then they go SMALLER on the screen and put buttons on it to make it even smaller effectively??
It's all perplexing. Luckily I am not in the market for a new device in the near future as far as I know.
The more I think about this device the more I realize the build and material quality is the only thing they aren't following Samsung's lead on where they SHOULDN'T be. They have the HD AMOLED when they should have went with colorboost. They have minimally improved camera when that should have been as big or bigger effort than getting build and material right. But then they go SMALLER on the screen and put buttons on it to make it even smaller effectively??
It's all perplexing. Luckily I am not in the market for a new device in the near future as far as I know.
Sandroidfan
Android Expert
Looking at that Moto page Jroc posted, Razr M really seems smaller than others in dimension so I can see it being owned by women, teens with small hands. It didn't look that smaller in videos, pictures I saw.
But I wonder what Moto's definition of edge to edge screen is. They could have made screen a little bigger in the same body if not for that verizon logo on bottom.
But I wonder what Moto's definition of edge to edge screen is. They could have made screen a little bigger in the same body if not for that verizon logo on bottom.
IHateMyTreo
Android Expert
We haven't heard the last (or first?) of "edge-to-edge." The London press announcement touts the word "edge" whereas today's invite was all about "display."