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droid already a day old loaf of bread
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I agree with this 100% and I have not read one negative article about the Droid. My opinion is based strictly on personal experiences with Android. The Droid is my first smartphone and I love it but the fragmentation is really a big issue for me. I bought my Droid and about a month later another Android phone with a better OS comes out and I want that exact same OS on my Droid and it really bothers me that I don't have it.
Yes, I know, I could root but I just don't have time to learn the ins and outs of rooting, flashing roms, nandroid backups, etc.,... I'm just too busy with work and I can't devote much time to learning all of that stuff and I shouldn't have to. I should friggin' have 2.1 on my phone PERIOD and I shouldn't have to become a part-time programmer and tweak my phone just to get bits and pieces of it.
Ok, I'm not sure where you got your information from, but it's not completely accurate. First of all, Apple puts out more than one update a year! On my touch that I've had for around 2 years, I've had *many* updates for it. And what's more, Apple *charges* iTouch owners money for the major upgrades and you *can* decline them which I'm sure many people do. OMG, so then we have a "fractured" Apple ecosystem. How can they possibly survive when iTouch users have different versions of Apple's OS?
So the fractured arguement is non-sense. Apple's model applies to companies that control all the hardware and give the consumer no choice. And because of this model which only applies in Apple-land, you can't compare this to Android which was made to be "fractured" and customized to however the vendor wants to sell the device. You, as a consumer, have the option to file in with all the Apple fanboys and buy the same exact look and feel as the rest, or you can look at the variety of phones for Android and find something that tickles your fancy. NO ONE EVER SAID THAT IF YOU BUY AN ANDROID PHONE IT WILL ALWAYS BE ON THE LATEST ANDROID RELEASE IMMEDIATELY. These false expectations are again comparing to a single model that Apple offers.
The article this thread was started about is pure rubbish. But what do you expect PC World to say about a competitor to a well paying advertiser? The media today is all about advertising dollars. They will say whatever they can (truth or lie or lie or lie) to get that advertising dollar. Hence the reason why these articles pop up like slime in a sewer.
BucYouUp68
Android Enthusiast
Well then you wait till they release it my friend, that is how it has always been.
Wow, are these replies for real? Moto has already told us that 2.1 is coming for the Droid. As technology moves forward and one phone vendor beats another to the next update of the Android OS, are we going to need medication until we get the update? I guess patience isn't a value some people have anymore...
jmccarthy14
Well-Known Member
Uhm speak for yourself. My droid is over twice as 'powerful' as a 3gs...
skunkpbguy
Android Enthusiast
Listening to PC World for smartphone information is like reading Agriculture Today for help in Farmville... get over it, there will always be someone trying to bash your tech.
Sigh... 2.1 has been 'coming soon' for far too long. Furthermore, when we finally do get 2.1 (hopefully before the close of 2010), all indications are pointing to the fact that we are getting a SUBSTANTIALLY watered down version of 2.1 and all of the cool features will be missing. In my opinion, this is totally unacceptable and I'm not happy about it AT ALL, especially since I know that the Droid is absolutely capable of running full 2.1.
I know that inevitably someone will mention to me that I can just root and flash roms but, again, rooting and constantly trying to keep up with the latest ROMs is extremely time consuming and I have zero spare time. I don't even have time to be typing this post, quite honestly. And in any event, I shouldn't have to exert so much time and effort into hacking/programming my Droid just so I can get cool 2.1 features that should be stock anyway. I enjoy the customization of Droid in that I can have custom wallpapers, widgets, home replacements etc. because those things are fairly quick and easy to do but rooting is a bit much for me (time wise).
jfe
Android Enthusiast
One thing that is cool about the Droid is all the cool things that you can do with it
The one thing that is uncool about it, is that you have to go through all the effort to make it do all those cool things.
The reason why I like it is because I am a geek that loves spending time doing this stuff, but the iPhone just gets all the cool stuff, and they don't have to work for it , they don't the rush factor of restarting your phone hoping that you didn't brick it
I just wish we could get all the cool stuff automatically
The one thing that is uncool about it, is that you have to go through all the effort to make it do all those cool things.
The reason why I like it is because I am a geek that loves spending time doing this stuff, but the iPhone just gets all the cool stuff, and they don't have to work for it , they don't the rush factor of restarting your phone hoping that you didn't brick it
I just wish we could get all the cool stuff automatically
alostpacket
Over Macho Grande?
In the amount of time it takes to write these posts and worry about what features you might or might not get, you could have read several how-to rooting articles.
Not to mention, what's coming in 2.1 from Moto/VZW is pure speculation at this point, (despite what engadget says) so you're working yourself up into a tizzy over something that hasn't even happened yet.
Anyways, instead of getting upset, how about getting involved? Start here, it's a wonderful site for new rooters:
Start Here | Root Your Droid
rootyourdroid.info said:
jmccarthy14
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xjestersdeadx
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Ok, the title of the guy's article makes the point the Droid is already out of date and yesterday's technology.
He then tries to say the reason for this is the Android OS having different versions on different phones.
The "writer" *cough cough* doesn't talk about the Droid's processor, GPU, screen resolution, etc....his point is that the Droid is out of date because the Android OS has different versions on different phones. This is wrong.
Yes, Android OS might be "fractured" (which is not an accurate description by the way, its a very obvious dig at Android OS) but that doesn't mean that the Droid as a phone is extinct. Even with the release of Nexus One, the Droid still beats the iphone on many basic hardware statistics, will support flash, etc., so is the iphone out of date? Well, by this theory, no, because the iphone doesn't have the Android OS. I guess my 2003 Palm Treo 650 isn't stale bread either, because it doesn't have the Android OS.
If his article didn't mention the Droid, or at least talked about the phone's hardware in some way, it could be taken as a much more logical argument.
Yes, the Android OS releasing different versions can be a pain, but it doesn't make any particular model immediately "stale bread". (For me personally, I would rather wait for an update then have crashes and watch the meltdown on the forums of people yelling for a new patch!)
BucYouUp68
Android Enthusiast
With the amout of time you have spent on this topic, you could have rooted several phones. It is not hard to do, there is nothing to learn. Watch a couple small videos in the root section, and you will be a much happier person. Bottom line is, this is a three party phone, Google, Motorola, Verizon, so the red tape gets real thick with the whole role out thing, I don't even want to think about it. In the Consumers fantasy world, they want everything, and they want it now. Sorry to say it does not work like that in the real world. If they(Google, Verizon, Motorola) start Bricking phones, the finger pointing will begin. So all i am saying is, if you don't want to take the time to Customize your phone, that is your choice. But your complaints are going to get you no where. Good Luck with whatever choice you make, there are other phones out there to choose from. And none of them have a thing on a Rooted Droid, Bottom Line.
alostpacket
Over Macho Grande?
hahaha
j where you been man? you fly in here post you run at 1GHz and then we never see ya and now we're all over clocked. Look what you did!
The Droid is stale because of the competition. HTC incredible/desire, SE Xperia X10, etc. New hardware is constantlly coming out. That's the nature of the game.
As for the different versions of the OS floating around on all these, phones, that's a different story. It will be interesting if the N1 will get a first dibs on the latest updates. If that's the case, then sign me up for the N1 over the HTCs.
As for the different versions of the OS floating around on all these, phones, that's a different story. It will be interesting if the N1 will get a first dibs on the latest updates. If that's the case, then sign me up for the N1 over the HTCs.
jfe
Android Enthusiast
MrClean
Android Enthusiast
I'm no expert on Android or iPhones. I've had my Droid for about a month and really love it, after coming from Windows based phones.
I think there is a huge difference between a phone system that is on a single carrier with a single manufacturer (iPhone/Apple) versus a phone system that is on multiple carriers with multiple manufacturers. That to me, would be the biggest reason why there are so many different versions of the OS and while that part of may get streamlined somewhat in the future, I think there will always different versions. No matter how it turns out, I'm happy with what I got.
I think there is a huge difference between a phone system that is on a single carrier with a single manufacturer (iPhone/Apple) versus a phone system that is on multiple carriers with multiple manufacturers. That to me, would be the biggest reason why there are so many different versions of the OS and while that part of may get streamlined somewhat in the future, I think there will always different versions. No matter how it turns out, I'm happy with what I got.
I have not read the article, but if what you're saying is true, I agree that the article has engaged in irresponsible "journalism" by claiming that the Droid is "stale" because of multiple OS's. While I think the multiple OS issue is annoying and I'd rather have 2.1, I think a stock Droid running 2.0.1 is an awesome, technologically cutting-edge device and in no way outdated or "stale". To make such a claim is utterly ridiculous, to say the least, and I've had it up to here with iPhone ZOMBIES who are not capable of thinking for themselves and accepting the fact that this damn phone is NOT the physical embodiment of Jesus Christ himself. And these websites and periodicals that recieve advertising money from Apple (cnet, Endgadget, PCWorld) are the worst and are too pussified to say anything disparaging about big advertisers. In my opinion, Android is the only place to be when it comes to smartphones and I just could not see myself going to any other platform... not WebOS, WinMo, or Iphone... none of those smartphone platforms would work for me. That doesn't mean that Android is perfect BUT, for what I want, it's far and away the best option out there and I do think that with time Android control the vast majority of the smartphone market share.
LaserDroid
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LaserDroid
Newbie
Who me? Heavens no, ewww iphone, I feel dirty, time to go shower.
-Anti-apple since 1984
-Anti-apple since 1984
3devious
Android Expert
That is the best comment about PC World I have ever seen. It doesn't just apply to smartphones. That was just way too funny! Thank you.
Edit: a more fitting comparison would be something to the effect of "reading Farmville Today for help with your garden" but the way you wrote it is still pretty funny. I just wouldn't want them to seem as useful as Agriculture Today. They certainly are almost as interesting.
Jay3
Android Enthusiast
Android development is moving at light speed compared to iPhone. This is just the hurling of sour grapes as it zooms by. The open source community will outstrip Apple's speed.
And the hardware manufacturers will be in a race to out do each other -- HTC, LG, Samsung, Moto, you name it. The latest phone will only be the best for 3 months.
Get used to it. And it's a fun thing. Imagine a day when the phones only cost about $200 to $250, unsubsidized, and we can afford to keep switching if we want.
We on the verge of how I always hoped things would be. Let's not crap in the pool by deluding ourselves that the Apple clamp-down is better.
Heck, if you push an iPhone fan's buttons the slightest bit, they claim jailbreaking is what makes the phone awesome. If so, jailbreaking is like living in the Android community with OS updates timed differently, rooted phones and the like.
Android is not a frustrating experience at all for the non-tech user. It is a hassle free, feature rich experience.
It is only frustrating for the cutting edge community -- and I don't see how that community could ever live with an iPhone again.
And the hardware manufacturers will be in a race to out do each other -- HTC, LG, Samsung, Moto, you name it. The latest phone will only be the best for 3 months.
Get used to it. And it's a fun thing. Imagine a day when the phones only cost about $200 to $250, unsubsidized, and we can afford to keep switching if we want.
We on the verge of how I always hoped things would be. Let's not crap in the pool by deluding ourselves that the Apple clamp-down is better.
Heck, if you push an iPhone fan's buttons the slightest bit, they claim jailbreaking is what makes the phone awesome. If so, jailbreaking is like living in the Android community with OS updates timed differently, rooted phones and the like.
Android is not a frustrating experience at all for the non-tech user. It is a hassle free, feature rich experience.
It is only frustrating for the cutting edge community -- and I don't see how that community could ever live with an iPhone again.
CRPercodani
OFWGKTA
I'm no expert on Android or iPhones. I've had my Droid for about a month and really love it, after coming from Windows based phones.
I think there is a huge difference between a phone system that is on a single carrier with a single manufacturer (iPhone/Apple) versus a phone system that is on multiple carriers with multiple manufacturers. That to me, would be the biggest reason why there are so many different versions of the OS and while that part of may get streamlined somewhat in the future, I think there will always different versions. No matter how it turns out, I'm happy with what I got.
Exactly. If you all want to blame someone for fragmentation, blame the manufacturers. Google doesn't release all the Android phones, just the Nexus 1. Apple only has 3 phones and they make them so updating it is a simple task. Android is used on what like 50 devices or more? Google puts out the source for every new build of Android, but it is up to the manufacturer/carrier to make and distribute the update.