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Droid Bionic RAM + 4G coverage
- Thread starter droidfan1
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milan03
Android Enthusiast
I think you are forgetting that 512MB of RAM is really 256MB per core which isn't so hot. I know you are comparing Bionic to other 512MB phones, but they all had the whole amount of RAM reserved for that single core. And 256MB per core + MotoBlur makes me hate life...
We'll see how well it performs once it hits the shelves.
We'll see how well it performs once it hits the shelves.
soapinmouth
Android Enthusiast
Im not sure where your heating that but that is incorrect both cores have access to all 512mb. still have yet to have one person tell me the app they use that needs more then 512. As far as blur on the bionic its nothing like any blur that's been released. Its very nice im glad moto actually put some work into it this time around. Check out some reviews of the leaked gb for the x and d2 if you want to see for yourself
droidfan1
Android Enthusiast
False.
DDR2 RAM is blazing fast, and 512 MB = for the entire phone, not per core as you say.
The new MotoBlur is actually quite amazingly good. It is nearly as good as sense. Say sense = 100, motoblur Gingerbread and higher is in the 90s.
Froyo motoblur is like 30-50 ish
Well that clears that up!
Thanks for the response it's pretty helpful. I think I'm gonna go Bionic out of contract, and then when the time is right upgrade again next year. I'm coming from an X out of contract from an original Droid. My work phone is the Thunderbolt now too lol. wow, couldnt have been more wrong. so if you have a quad core, the ram is divided by 4?
im going to wait for the bionic. shame that the thundrbolt is such a medicore phone, otherwise id have one right now.
BlueBiker
Android Expert
Firefox Mobile System Requirements
There's your link. If FF4 requires 512MB today, what do you think future app requirements may be in 12 or 24mo when new Bionic buyers are still locked into their plans?
FF4 Mobile is said to use almost all of the same code as in the desktop version, and my desktop FF4 often consumes 2GB w/many tabs open and sometimes won't shrink below 800MB even after closing all but one of the tabs.
Android runs on linux, linux is not lie windows, adding ram WILL NOT do much of anythign for your "speed". Android apps are built to run at very low amounts of memory and so there is nothing on the market that would even make more then 512 useful. The reasoning behind the 1gig on the attrix is the dock station and that alone.
No, that's an argument w/o context. It's true that RAM beyond your working set won't help (MineSweeper on WinXP w/2GB wouldn't be any faster than it would be w/only 256MB, same idea on Linux), but working sets continue to grow as app demands grow and as users want to have multiple such apps resident simultaneously. I don't like having my browser get swapped out (forcing a possibly lengthy page refresh) when I momentarily switch tasks to respond to an email or IM.
I just think it's presumptuous to tell people that 512MB is more than they'll need, when we have no way of knowing what apps will be released over the next 1-2yrs. Besides which, Android O/S limitations today may be relaxed in future versions, so it's not reasonable to say that 1GB 18mo from now is useless because you can't identify a specific benefit from it right now.
Related note: I still love my 256MB OG Droid, but I'm kinda wishing it had enough RAM to run FF4. Yeah it might actually install, but it would probably be thrashy to the point of uselessness.
droidfan1
Android Enthusiast
No. You don't divide ram with cores.
droidfan1
Android Enthusiast
True, but nothing more than 512 DDR2 RAM is needed. As of now. Personally, more wouldve been nicer but this is all that is needed.
milan03
Android Enthusiast
I strongly disagree with that statement. If you didn't run Blur and had vanilla gingerbread, then maybe, but by looking at every single video of Bionic it's obvious that it just doesn't run smooth at all.
Hopefully they'll optimize as much as possible by launch date.
droidfan1
Android Enthusiast
This is because they aren't using the dual cores effectively.
there is no way you could know that definitely from just watching a video
Really? Things must have changed for the worse then. When I played with it at CES it was incredibly smooth. As a matter of fact, my counterpart who is an Apple guy likened it to the smoothness of an iPhone.
drdoom
Android Expert
I think you are forgetting that RAM has nothing to do with CPU cache. In which case, you are still partially wrong because newer CPUs are able to share the cache between them and allocate it to another core if needed.
As for the reference to Firefox "requiring" 512MB of RAM, Firefox on Windows doesn't even have a memory footprint of 200mb (mine is 170 with about 20 add-ons running). I highly doubt it will require more on a mobile version.
milan03
Android Enthusiast
Everything being said already, although a dual core 1Ghz Android device will properly function with 512MB of RAM, it is far from optimal.
I'd like to know what's so exciting about Bionic that attracts you to buy it? Nothing wrong with a phone, just can't see the light.
Thank you.
I'd like to know what's so exciting about Bionic that attracts you to buy it? Nothing wrong with a phone, just can't see the light.
Thank you.
dual core and a little bit better screen. I'll take my free 4g over that any day though
YankeeDudeL
Android Expert
I'm sure the TB having LTE issues isn't pushing the Bionic's release date any closer. Not to mention the potential setbacks the Atrix has uncovered. Hopefully, when we finally get this Droid in our hands, it'll be truly ready to shine.
milan03
Android Enthusiast
Not sure what LTE issues you're talking about but here is a small video of Thunderbolt USB tethered in the middle of the peak hours in NYC: YouTube - HTC Thunderbolt Speedtest during peak hours in NYC
For you who think 512 mb of ram isn't good enough, be sure to pay attention that it is DDR2 RAM instead of regular DDR. Which is much faster, and also those who have seen the release recently for june 9, that was an april fools joke and the phone is still targetted to release in april.
drdoom
Android Expert
I'd bet the Incredible 2 releases this month instead of the Bionic.
Crude
Android Expert
This has been my experience with the original Droid. It was a huge step forward for Verizon that paid off big time. Right off the bat the question was if 256mb of ram was enough and while initially it was less then 6 months later I realized the phone didn't have enough to properly multi task anymore. When a app was being used with large ram needs everything else was closed. It had the same effect of the iphone. While yeah you can switch between apps they aren't reopened in the condition you left them. Flash was a big part of the problem. 10.1 uses an immense amount of ram.
I like the bionic the best of the phones being released on Verizon this year.....but the 512MB of ram has me sweating bullets. I cannot use my Droid without significant frustration and the last thing I want is a NEW phone that has the same problems 6 months down the road again.
I'm honestly scratching my head trying to understand why motorola puts a dual core, large high res screen and massive battery in a phone only to go skimp on the ram that imo should be fairly cheap?
If sprint has a dual core large screen device with more ram this year Verizon is defiantly going to loose my contract. And I could care less about 4g at this point.
drdoom
Android Expert
The Atrix has DDR2. If the transition from DDR to DDR2 is anything like desktop computers, I wouldn't expect more than a 20% increase in performance. I went from DDR2 in one of my machines to DDR3 and the performance difference was pretty minimal. In fact, the increased latency from the DDR3 memory actually hurt performance in some applications/benchmarks.