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Epic vs Evo

rasstar said:
Sometimes I wonder how sprint is still in business with prices so low compared to the competition. Even tmobile has higher prices for less services.
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The reason was Sprint needed something to have because their phone lineup just wasn't up to par. So why would anyone go to sprint? Cheaper Plans!!! But Sprint finally gets on par or even above it and now they are slowly but surely creeping the costs up. All i'm saying is charge me for the 4g or 3g or what ever but don't sit here and charge me 10bucks because the phone has awesome specs. I mean now we have to pay monthly rental charges cause thats exactly what it is.

Ima still get it cause it has a keyboard :)!
 
miamithrice said:
I never understood the complaining about the $10 thing.


1. They're simply calling it a premium data charge, but you don't know exactly what it's being used toward. They might actually be using it to bolster up the 3g network to withstand the influx of traffic while simultaneously allowing for a smooth rollout of 4g services nationwide. You never know. The money for all of these changes/upgrades needs to come from somewhere.
2. Even with this extra charge sprint still has the least expensive unlimited data/messaging/mobile-to-mobile plan + night and weekends start at 7PM. I came from ATT and my current plan is superior to their's while still being $10 less monthly (not including my corporate discount either). You all have been spoiled for way too long. You want expensive, try pricing out an unlimited data/messaging verizon plan...
3. Sprint is selling $500+ 4G capable superphones for a low-price of $199 up front. God forbid they try to make some of that money back sooner while upgrading the network.
4. Sprint navigator/TV bundled in.



I'm dealing just fine.
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We do know what its for, Sprint has said over and over again...Its a rental fee cause the phones have such good specs they think the specs themselves on the phone offer a premium usage over regular phones! Its like the cable companies that charge you monthly 4 bucks for a reg box but 8$ for a dvr box.
 
Nightfury82 said:
What does the Epic NOT have that the Evo has?
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The Epic does not have a display not capable of true colors like the EVO, does not have a GOu that can barely play a 3D game, does not have a 30fps limitation which causes scrolling to not be smooth, epic has a physical keypad and much more. The epic is miles better than the EVO if you ask me.
 
$10 is chump change. I hate physical keyboards personally so when my upgrade comes in October I'll be snagging the next best thing or the EVO.
 
I love t-mo but they have sucky phones when it comes to phone with slide out keyboard, iv got moto cliq and still no update, wil be getting the epic.
 
I was all about the EVO when I first read about it so long ago. My contract was up when the EVO was released but didn't pull the trigger for some reason. Now the reason is obvious, Im waiting for the EPIC.
 
I was with t-mobile less than a month ago and switched to sprint for the evo because I was tired of waiting on the galaxy. Now I can get the epic when it comes out. I compared the vibrant to my evo today and it was a joke how much better the vibrant was. Now I see why Sprint would be scared to bring out the epic right after the evo. The evo is going to price drop bad when it does. Probably buy one get one.
 
andrdrulz said:
I was with t-mobile less than a month ago and switched to sprint for the evo because I was tired of waiting on the galaxy. Now I can get the epic when it comes out. I compared the vibrant to my evo today and it was a joke how much better the vibrant was. Now I see why Sprint would be scared to bring out the epic right after the evo. The evo is going to price drop bad when it does. Probably buy one get one.
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Can you do a quick review of what was better regarding the Vibrant vs the Evo?
 
The most notable difference between vibrant and evo was the screen. I tested the video side by side and watched the replays, the brightness was all the way up on both phones. The evo looked washed out next to the vibrant. There was a noticeable difference on how much crisper the vibrants resolution was also. It was bright inside the store so when took pictures the lack of flash didn't hold the vibrant back on picture tests which were the same story as video. During the picture and video tests I focused both phones about two inches from some very, very fine print on the back of a brochure. Both in camera mode were able to focus clearly and take readable photos, but in video mode only the vibrant could focus clearly on the print. Silly test but it impressed me. Especially when I compared the I phone 4 camera to the evo a couple of weeks ago and the evo focused better on small print. Back to the washed out comment, the vibrants white made the evos look like bone color, and the blacks almost grey. As far as speed goes, as soon as you lifted your finger from clicking on an app it was loaded. I'll try to answer any questions in case I forgot something. Can't wait for epic.
 
Thanks for the review. One of the things I'm looking forward to is the battery life which is stated to be better than the Evo's, and the SuperAMOLED screen is supposed to help conserve energy.

After dealing with horrible battery life on my Touch Pro since 2008 it's something that I really don't want to deal with anymore, especially if I get a new phone.


Some people have been complaining about the Pentile display and text. Did you notice anything when displaying text on the Vibrant?
 
The text looks fine to me nothing stood out. the font it was set to was annoying but legible. I tried the swype and it was really easy to use. the predictive text or the auto correct weren't working for some reason. I checked the settings and they were on. who knows. I had a battery issue with the evo when I first got it but after a week or so you learn what to turn off and apps to help conserve battery. plus since the update they put out I've noticed an increased life. I still want a to have my brightness maxed out, gps, and all my background updates turned on. my hopes are that the epic won't have to be handicapped to get good battery life.
 
As amazing as this device is going to be I think we may be overestimating the power-conservation "abilities" of the screen/processor. No modern "superphone" is going to survive the exploitations of all of its capabilities at once. And from what I've been reading, an AMOLED screen can draw more power than an LCD depending on what is being displayed. Just food for thought..
 
I skipped out on the Evo for the simple fact that all current Qualcomm's processors are garbage and overhyped. They skimp out on certain components like the GPU and hope that nobody notices. I believe that once the Epic comes out that even non techie buyers that want a bit more power (For emulators & Smooth Video playback for example) will take notice. I predict that by the time Qualcomm comes out with their 2 core 45nm scorpion that T.I., Samsung, Apple, and the likes will have their 35nm cores available. Sorry for bashing Qualcomm if there are any fans of Snapdragon out there. Its all just my opinion of course and may not all be true.
 
This seriously is Moment vs. Hero all over again. Samsung or HTC? QWERTY or all touch? AMOLED or not? Faster processor or slower?

I fell for it once before and got the Moment, and regretted it terribly. The build quality was terrible, the software was buggy, and Samsung's support was god-awful. Switched it for the Hero and couldn't have been happier.

I just recently upgraded my Hero to an EVO in the midst of this Epic or Evo debate, and I know I made the right choice for me. HTC wins hands down - and not to mention, I suspect the dev's at xda will do a much better job with the Evo than the Epic (they've already done some killer work).

Just my 2.
 
I have reservations due to a long history with Samsung (awesome hardware, lame software), but I'm pretty solidly in the Epic4g camp right now for the following reasons:

* Keyboard. The Hero taught me to loathe and despise soft keyboards. Admittedly, Palm/Access threw a curveball into my equation with the release of real, honest to god Graffiti-1 last week, but for now I'm standing firm and demanding a keyboard, if only because it doesn't eat the lower third of the display.

* GPU acceleration. Yes, Qualcomm has open-sourced the acceleration api (sort of), but HTC has shown that they won't regard it as a priority (or even a 'to do' item) until Sprint does... and Sprint doesn't.

* Samsung's kernel has the proprietary binary drivers implemented as proper .ko loadable kernel modules, instead of the monolithic, GPL2-violating binary blob HTC $hits on the curb and walks away from.

* thumb/indexfinger-friendly power button on the side, instead of on the top. For single-handed use and back-pocket carriage, I think that's ergonomically superior to the Evo's top-mounted button. It's a small detail, but one that becomes *really* important when you're talking about a button you're going to be using *constantly*.

Touchwiz might suck compared to SenseUI, but both can be irrelevant the moment the phone's rooted and reflashed, anyway. Anything SenseUI can do, $10 worth of thirdparty widgets from Android Market can do equally well or better.
 
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dyh said:
The Epic has better hardware specs except for the size of the screen, which is .3" smaller if that matters to you, and the front facing camera is 1.3 MP on the Evo vs. supposedly .3 MP on the Epic.

However, for gaming the cpu/gpu combination on the Epic is supposed to be better, assuming at the time of release they keep it the same as the already released Galaxy S. Also, the Epic is supposed to have a 6 axis accelerometer.

Personally I will get the Epic unless there turns out to be a serious flaw with it. Another thing you may want to consider is the bundled interface which is Touchwiz 3. Some people like HTC's Sense interface better...and some like stock Android etc.
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Physical Keyboard Trumps the additional .3 inches provided by the Evo.
Why? Because you can Look at the ENTIRE 4" of the Super Amoled Display, AS you type...text, search, browse, gps, you name it. The Physical Keyboard doesn't limit your viewing experience, unlike the evo's on screen boards.
 
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