this is the first time I've seen it, so thanks.
is that an actual case, or a replacement back cover?
No excuse for being a link whore.
I'm just wondering why they didn't show the difference in thickness between one with the case and one without the case. And also how it works while attached to the phone. Just weird to me that they wouldn't show that.
What I also find strange is that the "main" excuse for the kickstand not being on the EVO3D was due to needing space for the dual 3d cameras and the battery...But the kickstand case is going to be SEPARATE from the actual phone. So that begs the question, why the f' couldn't they make a battery cover that integrates the kickstand w/o needing to add a case (and added bulk) to the phone?
They did go out and specifically say the cases were prototypes (where they didn't say EXACTLY that about the phone). I wouldn't be surprised if they want to hear the public's reactions. It's virtually free R&D to them!
As to your second question, look at how your current evo is built. The kickstand doesn't reside on top of the battery, but below it. On the 3D, because the battery has been moved lower, there is no place to recess the kickstand. It was pointed out to me that the larger capacity battery is pyhsically the same size as that which is in our EVOs, I suspect they just beefed the battery capacity up to be able to have that as a backup excuse. Most people (including myself) associate larger capacity battery to the item actually being larger. Apparently this ins't the case.
I understand what you're saying, but I think you are missing my overall point. They make the excuse that the reason there is no kickstand is because of the lack of room (which I completely understand). What I don't understand is, if they're able to make a case that has a kickstand, I really can't find ANY reason that they can't create a battery door w/ a kickstand. One of the things said in the video was that "the kickstand needs to be integrated with the actual phone."...Again, B.S...HTC made a freaking case (even if it's a prototype) for the damn phone that's not part of the hardware.
I understand what you're saying, but I think you are missing my overall point. They make the excuse that the reason there is no kickstand is because of the lack of room (which I completely understand). What I don't understand is, if they're able to make a case that has a kickstand, I really can't find ANY reason that they can't create a battery door w/ a kickstand. One of the things said in the video was that "the kickstand needs to be integrated with the actual phone."...Again, B.S...HTC made a freaking case (even if it's a prototype) for the damn phone that's not part of the hardware.
I think they CAN make a back cover with a kickstand, but it would have to be a thick cover and therefore add to the overall bulk and weight to the phone. For people who don't want the kickstand, they may feel the phone is unnecessarily bulky (bulkier than the Evo).
We must also accept that it's possible that the majority of people don't see a kickstand as that important. Only a fraction of existing Evo owners feel it's important. And people who've never owned a kickstand phone don't really know what's missing, or they think it's a gimmick. For sure a lot of people thought the Evo's kickstand was gimmicky.
Based on the pics I've seen, the Evo 3D's battery is MUCH larger than the Evo's. Here:
The battery is like the entire bottom half of the phone. And since the Evo 3D is pretty much the same size as the Evo, it seems clear that this battery is bigger. But look! The SD card is not buried.
You think a battery cover would actually add more bulk than a case?...LOL...that doesn't really make sense to me at all. The EVO 3D is .03 thinner than the current EVO. No way I can see a case being "less" bulky than a battery cover.
The EVO 3D battery looks shorter to me. I'm currently running with a 1800mah battery and it's the same size as the OEM EVO battery.
The SD card isn't buried, but it still looks like you have to take the battery out in order to take the SD card out. Doesn't bother me, cuz I never take the sd card out, but just stating what I see.
I meant to say that a battery cover with kickstand would be thicker than a battery cover without a kickstand. That said, if HTC decided that a kickstand is a MUST HAVE for this phone, they would have made a thicker battery cover. The fact that they CHOSE a case for the kickstand indicates to me that based on their data, consumers were ambivalent about the kickstand in the first place.
Of course there's no reason why they can't come up with a battery cover accessory (rather than a case) that comes with the kickstand. And there's still a chance they will if feedback from CTIA over the kickstand is significant. Or a third party case manufacturer will get creative and make a replacement battery cover rather than a case.
I don't think you need to remove the battery to remove that SD card. It looks to be the exact same housing as the current one. You lift the little tab, and the SD card pops up diagonally. Then you pull it out. I don't see it getting in the way of the battery.
I sincerely think sr that you are grasping here. Certainly the reason we didn't get the kickstand is because of the cameras. This is not an excuse, it is a simple reason. I feel it has nothing to do with cost effectiveness. To add a kickstand to THAT design with the beefy camera and all will add girth, simple as that. There literally are no two ways about it. Imagine making the followup to one of your best selling phones THICKER than the previous version. That's a fantastic way to get the media riled up about how HTC goofed up. So, I guess it was a business decision. They didn't make it thicker to appeal to the few that would have a BUILT IN kickstand at all costs. They want to appeal to the masses.
Once the case arrive, put it on your phone (or if you aren't getting the phone look at a phone with the case on). Now measure just the back. That is a hair thicker than the phone would have been if it was designed as your propose.
I completely agree. I am just saying that they came out and said they made a decision to make the cameras 3D and this is why there is no room for the kickstand. I guess my point is, we know why they did it because they told us. Now we are just repeating what we know.
Let me put it in the form of a question. Do we expect them to say "We removed the kickstand because we think this is what is going to make us the most money"? Certainly not. Virtually every decision a company makes in releasing a product is to maximize profit on it. You can bet that they read forums, reviews, gripes, etc. when updating any and all hardware.
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