Evo or Droid X

[EarlyMon]

Ok folks if you do not know this then here it is Sprint and clearwire have made a deal with intel to get out of the wimax market and they are switching over to LTE enf of 2011. SO beware all evo phones are going to be worth *$$$%$*%%&. in a few month.

Also for your info. Verizon will be out with 4g data modems 4th quater and 4g phones 1 qtr. 2011, ALso thge 4g network for veriuzon is just about ready to be turned on. and will be for data by the end of the year at least I know in the SF bay area. So 4g on verizon. y bother with who knows where sprint is going wimax

This is first hand info from my close friend on the top rung of the ladder there.

That will certainly rock the world of the tech and financial analysts that have agreed that it would be clearly profitable and technically doable to support both LTE and WiMAX networks as a result of any merger&acquisition (m&a) activity, rather that for the end entity to fallow the WiMAX capabilities.

In fact, those analysts have noted that that would be most advantageous to them to focus their investment returns that way while combatting AT&T.

Those analysts influence Wall Street and investors influence how easily this m&a activity can go.

Frankly, your friend's statements sound more like a poison pill - capable of damaging the lesser entity's reputation, reducing demand, and thereby depressing the stock value - very good targets to have in either event of the m&a succeeding or failing.

It doesn't reflect what accountants prefer - and accountants largely control m&a activities.

No intention of slagging you nor calling your friend disingenuous - I simply find the assertion very difficult to believe.

Meanwhile -

Clearwire May Dump WiMAX

However - changing an agreement with Intel might not be as easy as that article suggests.

Intel writing massive check for Sprint-Clearwire WiMAX deal

That shows Clearwire with $2.6 BBBBillion dollars of Intel's money in their pockets (as of more that two years ago) - much as they'd like to make Intel look bad on this one, the fossil record says otherwise.

And if what your friend says comes to pass and everyone else's opinion is wrong - the Evo will be no less worthless than any other non-LTE phone.

How many of those exist - ah - zero in the US.

Verizon launching up to five LTE phones by mid-2011 - FierceWireless

And before we get into how LTE is true 4G while WiMAX is not - uh....

iPhone 4 Is Not 4G Phone; LTE And WiMAX Are Not Yet 4G Technology

From TFA:

The "True" 4G Technology

However, so-called 4G technologies, including LTE (Long Term Evolution), WiMAX (Worldwide Interoperability for Microwave Access) and UMB (Ultra Mobile Broadband), are just networking service projects proposed to ITU (International Telecommunication Union) to be defined as 4G technologies. To be accorded the official designation of 4G, the transmission speed has to reach the requirement of 100Mbps (mobile networks) and 1 Gbps (fixed networks).

So far the above so-called 4G technologies have not yet fully complied the transmission requirements of 4G standard, and should be called 3.9G, or pre-4G technologies, ITU noted.

ITU has received six technology submissions and is currently in the evaluation process for determining which can be qualified as true 4G technology. The determination will be made in October 2010, according to ITU's earlier announcement.

I'd like to be right out front on that one - as I keep hearing another myth about this merger - that LTE is 4G, WiMAX is not.

That's more Kool Aide.

 

[ap3604]

Before i go to bed i thought i would take this time to put all of this threads subjects into a sentence.

R-Kelly uses Droid X & Evo to take pictures of Corporate Media Child Molesters to send to the Feds...

-__- Now they will lock the thread

Dont Ban ME

LoL quite a horrible (but accurate) synopsis there Beast <--- see? no tongue!

 

[tqlla]

Some of these posts went pretty far off topic making the thread useless. I hope that the mods delete the OT posts.

 

[RoboMonkey]

I'll start....Whos needs a kickstand on a phone......Whats the deal with the camel hump on the Droid X

Check it, I used my kickstand the yesterday to prop my phone up on my Sister-in-law window ledge as I was leaving her house so everyone (like 5 people) could check out this YouTube clip over 4g.
They were freaking out about the kickstand more than the crisp screen.

 

[eric3316]

Okay wow i missed alot....
I would like to address Earlymon's responses to each of my responses

This forum thread has yet again turned into Carmen Vs Evo owners pt. 3 and this time I really didn't say anything negative about the Evo or Sprint(nothing major) and didn't speak that biased over the X but ehh what can i do....

Response 1:
The remark i made about awaiting your reply was mere sarcasm because it seems like everytime i give my opinion of a device in comparison of the Evo a flood of evo owners are quick to chastise and attempt to "gang" up on me and attack me. And also, this has become yet another childish and pointless spectacle

"Your response contained your opinions - limited to the wonderfulness of the devices if you like, tho I caution that simply reduces the dimensionality of the discussion, something I wasn't expecting of you, but you insist that's what you've done, so that's perfectly OK by me - but the subject at hand was corporate practices."

The subject at hand was about corporate practices....yes i agree.
My response to the link you posted was not so much directed towards
you and what you said but more so about the customers who are angry
or upset over the lack of inventory of both phones

I was not trying to "reduce the dimensionality" of the discussion because it's
obvious neither of us were actually talking about the same thing.

You were discussing corporate behaviors about not meeting demand and i was referring to customer reaction to the lack of devices

Response 2:
If you want to say that i tangentially replied to your response, then i guess technically this is true. However, i believe you misunderstood my response and formed an assumption hence the need to explain my lack of knowledge of JIT

Response 3:
Again where did i say i think i am correct. For all i know i could be dead wrong.
yet again another assumption and incorrect inference of what i stated in my posting

Response 4:
The obsessed reply and your fangirl remark
are not apart of a synonymous relationship
due to the fact based on your previous postings
in other threads...you have accused me of having
a negative feeling and response to HTC and Sprint
and an affinity for Verizon & motorola and that i am a
Verizon/motorola fan girl.

I addressed the fact that that while i am obsessed...
i am obsessed with phones...be it whatever carrier
the phone is on...if i want i will get it

The use of my obsessed remark for the use to support
your reiterating the definition of fan girl to me doesn't work here.

I expected more of you earlymon with the "obsessed=fan girl" remark which
was very incorrect when you think and go back and think of the
last time you and i discussed this in the other thread

Also, I don't think i used the word slander...i think that word is a bit extreme to apply to a forum of people who don't represent nor know anything about me and they are not going out in the real world and saying "Carmendiva" is a troll, fan girl, bitch etc. etc

so my reputation nor name is not the victim of slander....I would likely use the word exaggeration

Also, i am sensing a superiority complex not only in the fact that you choose to flood your reply with such pompous, Uneccesary vocabulary and the voice in which you write in has a bit of a condescending tone to it.... but the fact you choose to use the word Iconify..Iconify who or what exactly? For what?

I was not trying to iconify you as anything...i was not trying to iconify anyone or anything. Again, i am shocked that you would make such an accusation and yet another exaggeration in your posting, Earlymon

You are correct, I need to further grow in my psychology studies. I am going to be starting my sophomore year and expanding on what i learned last year..

"Now, that's more than an appropriate amount of response merited to your demands for attention."

You people(and this is not just early mon) truly get me with the seeking/demand of attention...

It is summer...if i need attention that bad, I will throw on a bikini and walk down the shore and let guys eye me up and down

yet again another fail on you're part early mon

you attempt to make me look like some idiotic airhead who is only posting seeking attention yet i don't see where i posted anything that warrants attention. I exercise my rights here on AF to post as i please within regards of respecting others(until i am disrespected). That is not seeking attention...it's called...using androidforums

You are quite right, those agencies require multi-dimensional thinking, something i do have. However, you once again assumed and are trying to belittle and insult my intelligence by using yet another assumption that is unfounded

I will look into tradecraft but i do have to say

for a man with such a high vocabulary(i do appreciate you challenging me on words and teaching me some new ones i didnt know) that most of your responses are just that...responses with high vocabulary

Your responses were filled with "expectations" of yours that i did not meet, assumptions about what was said or the thought behind it and just overall
weak

Man, that is an extremely long post so I had to quote it as that would just go along with how annoying this thread has gotten and the only thing I really got out of it was that you wear bikini's a lot in your life for attention.

Next time you have soooooo much to say, just get the posters phone number and give them a call. Why torture all of us with that.

 

[RoboMonkey]

Man, that is an extremely long post so I had to quote it as that would just go along with how annoying this thread has gotten and the only thing I really got out of it was that you wear bikini's a lot in your life for attention.

Next time you have soooooo much to say, just get the posters phone number and give them a call. Why torture all of us with that.

Sure it's gotten a little off topic, but I believe the post that made your eyes bleed was in direct response to other post. Maybe she could have just reported the poster for the attacks, but it's Carmen and that's not who she is.
I give her a +1 for maturity and intelligence.

The EVO is just a phone, so lets all play nice together.

 

[swazedahustla]

Ok folks if you do not know this then here it is Sprint and clearwire have made a deal with intel to get out of the wimax market and they are switching over to LTE enf of 2011. SO beware all evo phones are going to be worth *$$$%$*%%&. in a few month.

Also for your info. Verizon will be out with 4g data modems 4th quater and 4g phones 1 qtr. 2011, ALso thge 4g network for veriuzon is just about ready to be turned on. and will be for data by the end of the year at least I know in the SF bay area. So 4g on verizon. y bother with who knows where sprint is going wimax

This is first hand info from my close friend on the top rung of the ladder there.

The Door is ----------------------------------> that way. You perhaps need to learn to comprehend what you read before you go posting BS like this on a message board. Now run back to your hole and come up with something better.

 

[eric3316]

Sure it's gotten a little off topic, but I believe the post that made your eyes bleed was in direct response to other post. Maybe she could have just reported the poster for the attacks, but it's Carmen and that's not who she is.
I give her a +1 for maturity and intelligence.

The EVO is just a phone, so lets all play nice together.

Let's not kid ourselves. The only thing you give her +1 for is seeing her in a bikini.

Anyone see any review putting the Droid X on top of the EVO? Just curious. I like to see all different types of reviews, but I guess that one is much harder to find. lol

 

[carmendiva]

Man, that is an extremely long post so I had to quote it as that would just go along with how annoying this thread has gotten and the only thing I really got out of it was that you wear bikini's a lot in your life for attention.

Next time you have soooooo much to say, just get the posters phone number and give them a call. Why torture all of us with that.

and the fact that the thread fighting has like quieted down
you felt the need to start it back up...BECAUSE

oh yes you are seeking attention. You know anything
you say i will respond back to....and also you are right...
continuing an already dead argument is also truly annoying

Eric, I believe i addressed this in a response to Early mon....
If you are going to quote me, quote me correcty....Otherwise,
it is just a lie

He said i was seeking attention and i said that is not true.
If i was desperate for attention that bad, i'd throw a bikini
on and walk down the shore

And please don't try to attack anyone for agreeing or actually
being polite to me i.e. your response to Robo, that is petty and
immature on your part.......

If you or anyone have anything else have anything you want to say to me or about me, by all means send a PM...i get a few of those and feel free to overload me with your messages but let's not crowd the thread up with a
gay ass argument any longer

 

[eric3316]

and the fact that the thread fighting has like quieted down
you felt the need to start it back up...BECAUSE

oh yes you are seeking attention. You know anything
you say i will respond back to....and also you are right...
continuing an already dead argument is also truly annoying

Eric, I believe i addressed this in a response to Early mon....
If you are going to quote me, quote me correcty....Otherwise,
it is just a lie

He said i was seeking attention and i said that is not true.
If i was desperate for attention that bad, i'd throw a bikini
on and walk down the shore

And please don't try to attack anyone for agreeing or actually
being polite to me i.e. your response to Robo, that is petty and
immature on your part.......

If you or anyone have anything else have anything you want to say to me or about me, by all means send a PM...i get a few of those and feel free to overload me with your messages but let's not crowd the thread up with a
gay ass argument any longer

You could of followed your own advice and PM'd if you had something to say......

Now back on topic, anyone see a review that has the X over the EVO?

 

[carmendiva]

You could of followed your own advice and PM'd if you had something to say......

Now back on topic, anyone see a review that has the X over the EVO?[/QUOTE

I could have couldn't i?

LMFAO

Anyway this review doesn't put the X over the EVO but it does show
not only where the Evo beats the X, where the X beats the evo
and where they tie at

Droid X and HTC EVO 4G Head-to-Head

 

[carmendiva]

and here is a completely biased review that actually doesn't really acknowledge anything the Evo can do and favors the X

which i don't agree with completely

HTC EVO 4G vs Motorola Droid X

 

[Aldo Junior Ao2]

I'm waiting for the Droid X vs Evo prizefight on cnet. Also bad Eric.

 

[RoboMonkey]

I'm waiting for the Droid X vs Evo prizefight on cnet. Also bad Eric.

They had one and the EVO won.
I think there is a thread going on about it.

 

[EarlyMon]

Eric, I believe i addressed this in a response to Early mon....

He said i was seeking attention and i said that is not true.

Ah. I said:

Now, that's more than an appropriate amount of response merited to your demands for attention.

If you are going to quote me, quote me correcty....Otherwise,
it is just a lie

Exactly.

Our business on this concluded yesterday. Let's not rehash it, neither together nor apart - what do you say?

 

[EarlyMon]

The Door is ----------------------------------> that way. You perhaps need to learn to comprehend what you read before you go posting BS like this on a message board. Now run back to your hole and come up with something better.

Given that in my post above (#301) I posted a link providing substantiation for his claim that Clearwire may drop WiMAX, and given that links from that reference are very confusing, but completely shrouded in the strategic approaches being taken and yet to be taken by Sprint, Verizon and AT&T, I find this attack rather harsh.

Some people pass on the words of their friends, others pass on what they've been following in the publicly-accessible financial community.

Attacking the message rather than the messenger is always better form, wouldn't you agree?

 

[EarlyMon]

and here is a completely biased review that actually doesn't really acknowledge anything the Evo can do and favors the X

which i don't agree with completely

HTC EVO 4G vs Motorola Droid X

The places where I take exception you can predict:

1. The difference in screen colors on paper. This will show up especially when viewing photos and it's been widely established that all Android 2.1 has the photo viewer limited to 16-bit color. Our own mikeyandroid has exposed that the Novatek screens at least are 24-bit color (and I'm predicting that the same will hold true for the Epson ones). The main thing is that the reviewer resorted, in his own words, to "on paper" - had he used his eyes rather than paper, he'd have not noticed a difference. Category one would have been a tie.

2. Category 4, form factor, is completely subject and should have resulted in a no vote, unless the reviewer had actually had the chance to carry both. Instead, he quotes engadget - exposing his remark as derivative and therefore worthless. Had he been honest, this would have been a no-vote due to his lack of experience.

3. Category 5, should have been called Media Access, not Multimedia, and on this one the Droid X is not the winner - it is the game changing winner (to steal a term from you) on this front.

DLNA access is a very, very good thing.

Phones without HDMI may yet gain this advantage by the addition of my-imagined future software offerings - but the X has it today.

I haven't seen actual reviews of the devices yet, save the one posted earlier where the reviewer possessed both devices and put them through the paces for his uses - and that one fell short because he ran out of time and opportunity due to his travel circumstance.

These others aren't really reviews, they're derivative round-ups of what others have stated. As such, they simply serve the advertising clicks for those sites, not the phones or the potential phone buyers.

From my point of view, both devices are hampered by their as-shipped software, and because that's NOT fixable by rooting and replacing roms just yet, the real votes won't be in until both receive significant upgrades.

In addition, the 4G advantages remain to be fully seen. While I've expressed skepticism that 1) the m&a activities will actually complete and 2) this will result in the fallowing of WiMAX, I like to never say never.

I suspect because of those factors, both devices will obsolesce soon and this argument will be moot.

The real winners are the EVO and X owners, enjoying a larger screen. Personally, I can't stress that enough - we've all got one, so why not just use the words that everyone in Pundit Ville seems to want to avoid out of political correctness:

Size DOES Matter.

I even found a film clip from the financial sector, characterizing what our larger phones are doing to the competition and how they're changing the entire cell phone landscape.

Size DOES Matter

Someone said our phones are Hummers.

I would respond that where phones are concerned it's better to be given Hummers than HumJobs.

 

[carmendiva]

oh look godzilla

But yeah i didnt agree completely with that review because as you said in number 2, it is more so subjective to the person who has held both phones and would result in a no vote

 

[Complex757]

Sure it's gotten a little off topic, but I believe the post that made your eyes bleed was in direct response to other post. Maybe she could have just reported the poster for the attacks, but it's Carmen and that's not who she is.
I give her a +1 for maturity and intelligence.

The attacks...lol

I said my peace and dropped it, but it seems like you're trying to continue playing Superman, saving the poor defenseless internet girl from the big bad attackers. Of course hit dogs always bark the loudest.

I stated the obvious she's a trolling attention whore and reading you and her other followers lap up and support everything she does because she's a female you find attractive is pretty sad. This thread was off topic long before I entered it, in fact a good majority of the threads she enters are off topic. There were personal attacks long before I entered it. Nobody should have to enter a thread, read the title and wade through a couple of pages of bs for something of substance.

That's not who she is? Seriously, you need to get off the internet and keep your dignity, because this is getting more and more pathetic. But nice show, unfortunately some people see through you. Maybe the 17 year old is naive enough to fall for it, but I doubt it.

 

[Vihzel]

The attacks...lol

I said my peace and dropped it, but it seems like you're trying to continue playing Superman, saving the poor defenseless internet girl from the big bad attackers. Of course hit dogs always bark the loudest.

I stated the obvious she's a trolling attention whore and reading you and her other followers lap up and support everything she does because she's a female you find attractive is pretty sad. This thread was off topic long before I entered it, in fact a good majority of the threads she enters are off topic. There were personal attacks long before I entered it. Nobody should have to enter a thread, read the title and wade through a couple of pages of bs for something of substance.

That's not who she is? Seriously, you need to get off the internet and keep your dignity, because this is getting more and more pathetic. But nice show, unfortunately some people see through you. Maybe the 17 year old is naive enough to fall for it, but I doubt it.

Infraction? Reported to moderator. Calling someone a "whore" is no different than calling someone a "slut" or "tramp".

Hopefully, this thread will now officially be locked.

 

[EarlyMon]

Well, I can see that my pleas to drop past business, attack messages instead of the messengers, and to open the door for further discussion about about the nature of the future of 4G as a differentiator for the EVO with respect to the X are going swimmingly.

Mindfulness Bell Android application - AppStoreHQ

Love it! It reminds me to take a deep cleansing breath...

 

[Kelmar]

I'm going to suggest that EVERYONE (regardless of who started it) take the time to reread the Forum Rules and Zero Tolerance policies.

AF should be a HELPFUL and FRIENDLY place that we all enjoy coming to and not a place to bicker and fight and namecall.


Thank you to those who have reported the offense posts, a moderator will be looking into them.

 

[Aldo Junior Ao2]

Infraction? Reported to moderator. Calling someone a "whore" is no different than calling someone a "slut" or "tramp".

Hopefully, this thread will now officially be locked.

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Don't lock it. I think we are all adults here having a great convo nay sometimes its off subject but its all in fun. This one person should not ruin for me some good folks that i met on here. I say Open it even more but ban that person

 

[carmendiva]

lol you really don't want to lose this thread do you Aldo

 

[Anonimac]

Sorry folks, thread is no longer on topic and has outlived its usefulness, not to mention the fast track to closing resulting from personal attacks, name calling, etc... Please use the lounge for off topic discussion/dialog and keep threads on topic and insult-free.