secretLOVER
Android Enthusiast
I would go by verizons customer reviews rather than what you see here. Everybody already has a login there. More complaints and issues will be here. Im completely satisfied with the phone.
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Fascinate vs. Incredible
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Jedii
Android Expert
Hey all. Went outside and took a few pics. Check out the comparison.
Fascinate vs Incredible pictures by jedii13 - Photobucket
Hope this is helps.
Fascinate vs Incredible pictures by jedii13 - Photobucket
Hope this is helps.
Do not get a Fascinate. From my visit to Korea I was able to play around with the actual Galaxy S. Not the American versions. From what I heard there, they actually downgraded the processor and Samsung has a crappy UI. Also based on previous Samsung phones that I've played around with, Samsung can't make phones for crap. Remember the Alias 2? My point exactly. Only reason that Samsung is such a big company is that it's such a big company. Nobody can mess with them. They've got their hands on everything from cellphones, electronics, airplane parts (i know right?), construction, and even cars. Do not get the fascinate. It's just a crappy phone in general. The inc totally kicks ass.
Jedii
Android Expert
Hmm. Wow. I really do not know how to reply. Let me try and pick apart your great paragraph:
Downgraded the processor? No, it is a 1ghz processor UNDERCLOCKED to 800mhz (for battery life).
Samsung Alias 2....Lets compare the 1989 Ford Mustang to the 2011 Ford Mustang.....Not a fair comparison, so don't even try. Comparing the Alias 2 to the Samsung Fascinate doesnt even make sense.
If they are such a bad company, why do so many other manufacturers use their products? Even other android devices (screens, internal radios, etc...).
They're a big company because they're a big company? That confuses me......
Jedii
Android Expert
Im running stock on the Fascinate. Running CM6 on my Inc. yeah there are several threads about CM6.
Start here and then you can really get some good info:
Incredible - All Things Root - Android Forums
Glad you liked the pics.
Ok, you do realize there is a WORLD of difference between building components and designing an integrated device, right? They are ENTIRELY different worlds. Samsung has a history of terrible engineering (both hardware and software) in integrating their devices. Samsung smartphones have in the past been good component sets put together in crappy packages. The Incredible is good components in a very well thought out package. On paper the Samsung has the edge for most users, but IRL the Incredible is just a better device.
Jedii
Android Expert
Yes. I fully understand there is a world of difference. GE makes jet engines. GE also makes $0.98 light bulbs. 2 different worlds there. But that wasnt my point. I was arguing his point. Alias 2 vs Galaxy S isnt a fair comparison. You have to agree there.
Like I said. I LOVE my Incredible. In no way am I running it down. I just want the OP to have a good view of both devices. I feel i am qualified to supply him with that view as i carry both devices.
Berry2Droid
Android Enthusiast
WHy release a phone with older software? Everyone knew 2.2 was comming out, why not wait and make it better by puttign 2.2 on it?
I never said the screen wasnt the best
Why should I(the consumer in this scenario) have to download some 3rd party app to make my phone look different? Would you buy a car thats 3yrs older and has more miles than yours because it has 2-3 questionably "nicer" features? Then get hubcap covers because you dont like the hubcaps? Some ppl say yes to this, whatever.
I think that theres no reason to go backwards in phone. The camera is questionable, this dude rants about this samsung 5mp being better than the incredible 8mp, whatever. Fact remains its 5mp vs 8mp. "Same" processor, no reason to change for that. Like whats supposed to be better about this phone? Ok its got a little better resolution screen and its a few centimeters bigger. Oh boy.
Last few times Samsung took a shot at a phone that does more than text/call and keyboard, we got the Omnia I & II, and anyone who has ever seen either is going, oh jeeze..
I think that was more of a "do you remember that phone? No, of course you don't, it blows" kinda statement. Look samsung imo makes inferior phones. I love my Omnia but it took 8 months to get gps, plus check out the captivate section. There are some REALLY unhappy people, shisty gps, random restarts, problems with email. To me that is proof that samsung don't know how to put all the pieces together for a good product.
And lastly Touchwiz....... need I say more
Just my $0.02
Jedii
Android Expert
Right right. I see your point. Very valid. perhaps i just took your previous post wrong.
Side note.....Gotta give samsung a little credit here on the Galaxy S lineup though. Consumers are much happier with this lineup than the *sighs and pouts* omnia lineup.
Jedii
Android Expert
I think that was more of a "do you remember that phone? No, of course you don't, it blows" kinda statement. Look samsung imo makes inferior phones. I love my Omnia but it took 8 months to get gps, plus check out the captivate section. There are some REALLY unhappy people, shisty gps, random restarts, problems with email. To me that is proof that samsung don't know how to put all the pieces together for a good product.
And lastly Touchwiz....... need I say more
Just my $0.02
LOL. You're def right about touchwiz.......ughhhh. lol
Also, the captivate section has the ATT bloatware problems too.
After a week now on the fascinate, there is not near as much junk in the way like the captivate. But touchwiz is still brutal (IMO).
Berry2Droid
Android Enthusiast
Yea i defiantely like the phone. Dont get me wrong. Im comming off a little hot. And ppl on the galaxy boards felt teh same way as you. Its a VERY nice phone. But its still not an upgrade to me. I work for Verizon(as you know, maybe), and i will be selling this phone as a basic starter droid,just like I sell the LG ally right now. The ally will be my downgraded Droid2 and Fascinate will be my downgraded X/Inc. Thats all
Its a very very nice phone.
This phone is living proof that anything can be amazing when run on android software.
So you had a rooted Incredible (I assume with updated radio and/or kernel), then did a hard reset to return to stock (no RUU downgrading needed?) then did the OTA update to get Froyo, and now have great battery life?
What is your battery life with the stock battery and what is your usage pattern?
To be honest, the Incredible will drop a lot of calls! It drops many more than my Dare or any other phone did. It's starting to get annoying.
It didn't fix the problem for me and I know I'm not alone!
I have not had a single dropped call on the incredible... I have had them on my previous Behold 2 (an object lesson for anyone buying a Samsung smartphone), HTC Wing, Samsung Blast, etc.
Not saying you're wrong, just that my experience has been different.
redraptor
Android Enthusiast
So this is my question for you, what phone do YOU believe (Out of ALL of the Android smartphones at Verizon) is the "best"? Or is it more of a personal preference thing? The main reason I ask is because you have had probably more hands on time than anyone else with these phones and im having a devil of a time trying to make a real decision.
So far its neck and neck with the Droid X and Incredible, but the more I look at and see the Fascinate, the more im intrigued. Im hoping to run down to Verizon tomorrow and talk to them for a bit and get a lil one on one action with each phone for really the first time.
Im with you use this phone until I can upgrade then get the next greatest super duperest phone then.
Berry2Droid
Android Enthusiast
Uhm...what? I didnt drop a single call until like 3days ago. And i cant be surprised. Ive turned my phone into a Transformer with all the crap ive done to it lol
Im one of the few salesman out there, that Ive seen, that actually beleives in qualifying people for items. Now im not gonna get into it because everyone has different opinions, but you need to find which phone will honeslty make you life easier. In this case your just debating phones with all the same capabilities, but maybe one does it better. In my mind, the DInc is the best phone ever released, Verizon or not, hands down best phone ever made. But goto any other phone forum on this site and your gonna hear other ppl say the same about their phones. So i guess it comes down to preference. Hope this helps
rushmore
Extreme Android User
Fascinate has several advantages over the Inc:
1. Display is better- same nice features as Inc. but sweet spot size and easy to see on a sunny day.
2. Much better media features, including builit-in video acceleration (something HTC fails to leverage) and better audio fidelity.
3. Radio reception is just as good, but call quality is better than the Inc.
4. Apparently the Galaxy is easy to mod (perhaps by design).
The negative is the VZW version has 2 wimpy GB of buit-in storage. I would consider this device if it had the 16gb like the Tmo version. Sadly, all versions have some feature missing, may it be the keyboard, flash or 16gb of memory. NONE have a complete feature set.
This device would become legend if had all of the features. The keyboard is very good and easily TP 2 level.
Touch Wiz blows chunks, but there will probably be a huge mod scene for the device, given how many are being pushed through all main carrier channels. Still, big assumption is a mod scene will take off. No need to assume for the Inc since there already has a mod scene.
BTW, Droid 2 and X users may be let down, since Motorola appears to have went out of their way to lock them down. If anyone wants to recall, quite a few Droid's were bricked during the early mod days and Motorola flipped the bill for a lot of them. Seems they are determined not to repeat this.
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As far as the Inc, it will do me for now, since the call quality seems to have gotten a little better (do not know why) and with 2.2 lite, BFS kernel and 3500 Seido, it will do until something with the following comes along:
1. Keyboard
2. Dual core
3. 16gb built-in and micro slot
4. 4" super amoled
Heck, even without the dual core, a VZW version of the Epic with 16gb would be fine, but not happening.
1. Display is better- same nice features as Inc. but sweet spot size and easy to see on a sunny day.
2. Much better media features, including builit-in video acceleration (something HTC fails to leverage) and better audio fidelity.
3. Radio reception is just as good, but call quality is better than the Inc.
4. Apparently the Galaxy is easy to mod (perhaps by design).
The negative is the VZW version has 2 wimpy GB of buit-in storage. I would consider this device if it had the 16gb like the Tmo version. Sadly, all versions have some feature missing, may it be the keyboard, flash or 16gb of memory. NONE have a complete feature set.
This device would become legend if had all of the features. The keyboard is very good and easily TP 2 level.
Touch Wiz blows chunks, but there will probably be a huge mod scene for the device, given how many are being pushed through all main carrier channels. Still, big assumption is a mod scene will take off. No need to assume for the Inc since there already has a mod scene.
BTW, Droid 2 and X users may be let down, since Motorola appears to have went out of their way to lock them down. If anyone wants to recall, quite a few Droid's were bricked during the early mod days and Motorola flipped the bill for a lot of them. Seems they are determined not to repeat this.
Added:
As far as the Inc, it will do me for now, since the call quality seems to have gotten a little better (do not know why) and with 2.2 lite, BFS kernel and 3500 Seido, it will do until something with the following comes along:
1. Keyboard
2. Dual core
3. 16gb built-in and micro slot
4. 4" super amoled
Heck, even without the dual core, a VZW version of the Epic with 16gb would be fine, but not happening.
The truth of the matter is this:
Whether you like TouchWiz or not (which you can replace with a launcher anyway), the Galaxy S phones are currently the fastest android phones out. Period.
Whether you plan to buy one or not, you should go check it out. The screen is the BEST screen on any smart-phone today. Period.
All of you people dissing on the phone without even having seen one sound like iphone-fan-boys. Stop comforting yourselves. Incredible has been out for months... is it so surprising that a newer phone has come out that beats it? Of course not.
Instead of whining, go look at the phone and then tell HTC to release their own hardware that can beat the Galaxy S.
Competition is a good thing, even among android devices
Whether you like TouchWiz or not (which you can replace with a launcher anyway), the Galaxy S phones are currently the fastest android phones out. Period.
Whether you plan to buy one or not, you should go check it out. The screen is the BEST screen on any smart-phone today. Period.
All of you people dissing on the phone without even having seen one sound like iphone-fan-boys. Stop comforting yourselves. Incredible has been out for months... is it so surprising that a newer phone has come out that beats it? Of course not.
Instead of whining, go look at the phone and then tell HTC to release their own hardware that can beat the Galaxy S.
Competition is a good thing, even among android devices
Berry2Droid
Android Enthusiast
lol?
Your in a fantasy world if you think the Galaxy is better then the DInc. And i am touching the galaxy right now. Who has talked about the Galaxy without touching it? Who even said I-phone? Must be too early or something because your post makes little to no sense.