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Found a music store that sells high quality MP3's.. for $.05 per track! LEGAL!!

I go to concerts, I buy their shirts and stuff.... But buying actual tracks from these legit sources gives 99.9% of that 99¢ to the record labels and whatnot????? Jeez, might as well buy bootlegs and not miss a concert....
 
argedion said:
ahhh i can see it now that i'm on computer.


Actually the artist get very little of any moneys earned from album / radio sales exposure. Only way the artist gets anything from those revenues is if They own the actual copyrites. Musicians usually get their money from touring. Also many of them do not own the copyrites to their own music. Micheal Jackson was one of the few who owned most of his after he outbid Paul Mc Cartney or the Copyrites for the Beatles.
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Michael Jackson had to bid for the rights to his own music??? Smh...................

Yea, im not very aware of many things
 
kool kat2 said:
Michael Jackson had to bid for the rights to his own music??? Smh...................

Yea, im not very aware of many things
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not so much to use it himself but to grant others that they could use it. Yes the "Music" world is very different than many think. I also was surprised when I learned that ususally the record company purchases the copyrites and if the song does very well they turn around and sell them to the highest bidders. While most of the money the band makes on "album sales" goes to pay back the record industry for the copies of records and the distribution cost. It also helps them get money to afford to start investing in road equipment.
 
So, for anyone wondering about this site, I made the jump on it today and the way it works is you have to purchase a certain amount of "credits" of some sort. I bought $10. I was directed to paypal and made the transaction and i checked up on my paypal account and everything was legit. Now im enjoying seemingly endless amounts of music. Thanks IOWA :cool:
 
I think vh1 behind the music of tlc shows how crooked the record labels are. Also many bands on tour has to use their share of the ticket sales to pay for the tour. All the personnel and so on before they see a dime. Why many bands sells t shirts at concerts as they get all the money from the sales minus the costs to pay for the making of the shirts.

It say illegal downloads you are stealing from the bands. Mostly you are stealing from the labels as they sown the majority of the points from a CD sale. The band may get one point if lucky.

I now see why artists goes in to producing. They learned that's where the real money is. To sponge off the sweat of others. There's no real money to be made from being in a band. Unless your the Beatles or stones or Metallica. To get that superstar dome you have a better chance of getting struck by lighting 10 times in a row standing in the same spot.

Legal or not who really cares. If they want to use the site more power to them. Downloading from that site is no different than buying something at a yard sale or flea market. You have no idea if its stolen merchandise or not till after the fact when you get that knock on the door.
 
mikedt said:
Probably....because the US music stores want to protect their pricing cartel. Even though the site is apparently in Australia and not subject to United States laws.
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That's the beauty of it, it's not illegal. As long as the collection societies are getting thier "cut" of the profits, who are they to tell someone how much to sell it for? I bet they agreed to some sort of percentage of sales, and they never imagined selling things so cheaply. Unlike here in the states, they can't force the Aussies to sell things at grossly inflated prices.
 
IOWA said:
That's the beauty of it, it's not illegal. As long as the collection societies are getting thier "cut" of the profits, who are they to tell someone how much to sell it for? I bet they agreed to some sort of percentage of sales, and they never imagined selling things so cheaply. Unlike here in the states, they can't force the Aussies to sell things at grossly inflated prices.
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Thing is here in China, Google.cn gives music away, millions of MP3s. All completely legal and with the record labels' approvals. It's an ad-supported service, and Google pays a proportion of the ad-revenue to the record companies.

If I were to burn a few Google.cn free songs onto a CD or email the MP3s to my friend in the USA, would I be infringing copyright, and the RIAA be on my tail? Any more than if I were to buy a music CD in China, and physically mail it to my friend in the US? IANAL but I'm sure is completely legal.

The Google.cn free music service is only available in mainland China(PRC). But there's nothing to stop anyone in the USA, or anywhere else, from using a Chinese proxy or VPN to access it, completely legal.
??????

If you ever got SOPA in the US, they'd only have to allege a foreign site like Ivave or LegalSounds is unlawful or they just didn't like it, then it would be censored and blocked, end of.
 
Well I did a search for AC/DC and it actually came back with results, so that tells me there is something up..
I am an AC/DC fanatic.. My collection is quite big, and I know quite a bit about them past to present. One of those things I know about them is that the band in the entirety absolutely refuses to allow sales of their music online as downloads.. The only way they sell their music online is if you purchase an actual CD that will be shipped to your address. This is why you cannot find them in iTunes, Rhapsody, Google Music, Spotify, etc...

So this site is fishy to me
 
pbf98 said:
Well I did a search for AC/DC and it actually came back with results, so that tells me there is something up..
I am an AC/DC fanatic.. My collection is quite big, and I know quite a bit about them past to present. One of those things I know about them is that the band in the entirety absolutely refuses to allow sales of their music online as downloads.. The only way they sell their music online is if you purchase an actual CD that will be shipped to your address. This is why you cannot find them in iTunes, Rhapsody, Google Music, Spotify, etc...

So this site is fishy to me
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That's interesting because AC/DC's catalogue is available for free download from Google China music though, with the approval of Warner Music Group, AC/DC's record label. Also iTunes, Rhapsody, Google Music, Spotify, are all USA music stores. Perhaps AC/DC doesn't want their music available for download in that country?
 
I'm a professional artist and know how small the royalties can. For what I do, it's anywhere between 2-4%. So if one copy of my work sells for $1.25 I get 5
 
mikedt said:
That's interesting because AC/DC's catalogue is available for free download from Google China music though, with the approval of Warner Music Group, AC/DC's record label. Also iTunes, Rhapsody, Google Music, Spotify, are all USA music stores. Perhaps AC/DC doesn't want their music available for download in that country?
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Do not obfuscate. It does not matter one darn bit that someone is distributing AC/DC stuff legally. WMG/Google/iTunes have the right to distribute their music. AC/DC and their management and who ever else is involved apparently worked a deal.

Are you seriously trying to say that because iTunes can do it/does do it, it is legal for anyone else to do it?

By the way, iTunes paid a bunch of money--tens of millions of dollars--to the Beatles so Apple could make the Beatles catalog available.
 
Bob Maxey said:
Do not obfuscate. It does not matter one darn bit that someone is distributing AC/DC stuff legally. WMG/Google/iTunes have the right to distribute their music. AC/DC and their management and who ever else is involved apparently worked a deal.

Are you seriously trying to say that because iTunes can do it/does do it, it is legal for anyone else to do it?

By the way, iTunes paid a bunch of money--tens of millions of dollars--to the Beatles so Apple could make the Beatles catalog available.
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Who's obfuscating? I was just mentioning that AC/DC's music can be legally downloaded where I am. After it was suggested that a site that has AC/DC music is illegal. AFAIK it's all available from the Russian music sites as well, e.g. LegalSounds.

If it's not available from United States music stores, presumably that is because they don't want it available in that country, thus forcing their American fans to buy CDs. Maybe AC/DC are happy for The Pirate Bay to be their online music distributor in the USA?

What I don't get is why would AC/DC be against selling their songs online anyway? Are they so rich that they're content with CD sales only? I mean they've been around for a heck of a long time.
 
IOWA said:
I hate to tell you this, but the "there will be no artists" angle has been debunked many times by many different people. Once upon a time art was created just to be created, not for monetary gain. Artists are going to go away, ever.
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That's going completely the other way IMO. Surely artists do have to live and be paid for their work? It's their day job so to speak. I mean Leonardo da Vinci didn't do all those great works just for the love it did he? I'm quite sure he must have been paid for the Mona Lisa. I think Beethoven, Haydn and Mozart must have been paid for all their hard work as well.

But then they were not dealing with greedy mega-corporations like Warner, Sony, BMG or EMI, being paid a fraction of what they're entitled to, they were selling their own works. To quote @downeaststudio "For what I do, it's anywhere between 2-4%. So if one copy of my work sells for $1.25 I get 5
 
BTW, do you really think Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel for free...? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.... Um, no.... He was commissioned by the Pope! Which means he was paid to do it!
 
Well, when a website is selling their work at a gigantic fraction of the cost who is taking the loss? Is it the artist, is it the record label, is it the company distributing the music on that website, who?
I can't imagine any distributor, here, or in a foreign country being able to consistently offer such a huge discount like that without someone else taking a loss.
Can you assure me that the artist is going to get their FULL royalty from that sale? Are the "greedy record labels" going to take the loss?
I'd really be interested in finding that out.
 
I do understand what you are saying though, to get a little but is better than none at all, but if we are buying our merchandise from China, Russia, Japan, etc., who gets the money?
Does it stay in the US, or does it go elsewhere?
 
downeaststudio said:
Well, when a website is selling their work at a gigantic fraction of the cost who is taking the loss? Is it the artist, is it the record label, is it the company distributing the music on that website, who?
I can't imagine any distributor, here, or in a foreign country being able to consistently offer such a huge discount like that without someone else taking a loss.
Can you assure me that the artist is going to get their FULL royalty from that sale? Are the "greedy record labels" going to take the loss?
I'd really be interested in finding that out.
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What loss are you talking about? The infinite good that doesn't cost ANYTHING to reproduce? Simple economics. Supply and Demand.

It only makes sense that with infinite supply....well hopefully you can do the math and not be stuck in the 1960's. One way or another digital media is going to shift in this direction. Or, people won't pay for it. Which would you rather have?
 
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