Found a music store that sells high quality MP3's.. for $.05 per track! LEGAL!!

[novox77]

This is probably the type of site that SOPA was envisioned to stop, because the US was burned by this legal/illegal gray area and wanted an easy button to get around it.

In this case, we (or maybe IOWA) is assuming that since the site remains up, that it must be legal. I can think of many other sites that have been running for quite a while but remain up simply because the owners of those sites are very good at running and hiding from the law.

The existence of a site selling copyrighted works is in no way an indication of their legality (or illegality). The fact that you paid money for a piece of copyrighted work does not imply it was a legitimate transaction.

 

[IOWA]

This is probably the type of site that SOPA was envisioned to stop, because the US was burned by this legal/illegal gray area and wanted an easy button to get around it.

In this case, we (or maybe IOWA) is assuming that since the site remains up, that it must be legal. I can think of many other sites that have been running for quite a while but remain up simply because the owners of those sites are very good at running and hiding from the law.

The existence of a site selling copyrighted works is in no way an indication of their legality (or illegality). The fact that you paid money for a piece of copyrighted work does not imply it was a legitimate transaction.

Under their ToS:

You shall be authorized to use the Downloads only for noncommercial, personal use. Site may at any time lose the right to make certain Tracks and/or Materials available. In such an event, you will no longer be able to access these Tracks/Materials from Site's Library function or obtain them from the Site's catalog.

Seems to me they are legal, and claiming to be legal.

EDIT: Just opened a support ticket about legal status. Let's see where this leads.

Interesting development: It appears the site is actually Austalian, which has copywrite laws similar to the US. Now I'm really curious. Also, the $.05 per track seems to be a promotional rate to bring customers to the site.

 

[dan330]

promotional rate??? so what is the normal rate.. and when will it go back to normal rate?

 

[IOWA]

A bit off topic, but I'm surprised nobody's noticed that I'm "banned"

 

[kool kat2]

A bit off topic, but I'm surprised nobody's noticed that I'm "banned"

Wait what? ? Is it because you're promoting "illegal" music downloads

 

[argedion]

A bit off topic, but I'm surprised nobody's noticed that I'm "banned"

Well I noticed the Banned under your name I just thought it was something you put on there.

On Another Note about being "Banned" I thought that meant you could no longer participate and to be permanently Locked out. I am a bit more on the radical side not because I'm so Radical but just because I like to view things from a different view. I'm not sure why you were "BANNED" however maybe someone (said person who banned you maybe) was to explain what rule you broke and how serious it is. I push the envelope quite a bit and love to do so. However I will not do me or you any good for me to be "BANNED" I have not seen any reason in the post for such action so will be interested to see why. If I am ever privileged enough to be told such reason.

 

[Bob Maxey]

Well I noticed the Banned under your name I just thought it was something you put on there.

On Another Note about being "Banned" I thought that meant you could no longer participate and to be permanently Locked out. I am a bit more on the radical side not because I'm so Radical but just because I like to view things from a different view. I'm not sure why you were "BANNED" however maybe someone (said person who banned you maybe) was to explain what rule you broke and how serious it is. I push the envelope quite a bit and love to do so. However I will not do me or you any good for me to be "BANNED" I have not seen any reason in the post for such action so will be interested to see why. If I am ever privileged enough to be told such reason.

I banned Iowa decades ago. He is incorrigible. As I recall, he was banned because he always posts while naked and we must think of the children. Nobody needs to see nekked Iowa..

 

[dan330]

^^^ i have lost my lunch!!!

 

[argedion]

I banned Iowa decades ago. He is incorrigible. As I recall, he was banned because he always posts while naked and we must think of the children. Nobody needs to see nekked Iowa..

hmmmm

ANY BODY GOT FROG CLOTHES I'M IN DANGER OF BEING BANNED

 

[IOWA]

I banned Iowa decades ago. He is incorrigible. As I recall, he was banned because he always posts while naked and we must think of the children. Nobody needs to see nekked Iowa..

Wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle, yeah

 

[Roze]

hmmmm

ANY BODY GOT FROG CLOTHES I'M IN DANGER OF BEING BANNED

You sir, have been Slugged!

 

[IOWA]

UPDATE: Just got a response from their ticket. They say they are 100% legal and abide by all copywrite regulations...

 

[dan330]

would they say otherwise????

 

[IOWA]

would they say otherwise????

Here's the thing. They say they're legal, so I'm going to take them for their word. I mean, we don't walk into retail shops demanding to see all their permits and such. Nor do we ask this of amazon, ebay, etc...

 

[dan330]

My question was more rhetorical

 

[argedion]

You sir, have been Slugged!

Is that like being slimmed?

 

[Yeahha]

UPDATE: Just got a response from their ticket. They say they are 100% legal and abide by all copywrite regulations...

So did the guy on the corner who sold me those speakers but the police said otherwise

And while it may be legal or a legal loophole after some checking around it looks like nothing you pay for this music gets back to the artist so IMO it is worse than piracy not only are you getting the music without paying the artist for it but you are actually paying someone else for the music who is making gains for doing basically nothing. Just my 2

 

[Roze]

Is that like being slimmed?

Check the post's 'edit by'

 

[Bob Maxey]

UPDATE: Just got a response from their ticket. They say they are 100% legal and abide by all copywrite regulations...

Well then, there you go. I guess I'll help a friend rebuild his complete Beatles collection. Sure beats the drug store prices. Nine dollars should do it with some money left over to work on the Complete Rolling Stones Collection.

 

[Bob Maxey]

So did the guy on the corner who sold me those speakers but the police said otherwise

And while it may be legal or a legal loophole after some checking around it looks like nothing you pay for this music gets back to the artist so IMO it is worse than piracy not only are you getting the music without paying the artist for it but you are actually paying someone else for the music who is making gains for doing basically nothing. Just my 2

 

[IOWA]

So did the guy on the corner who sold me those speakers but the police said otherwise

And while it may be legal or a legal loophole after some checking around it looks like nothing you pay for this music gets back to the artist so IMO it is worse than piracy not only are you getting the music without paying the artist for it but you are actually paying someone else for the music who is making gains for doing basically nothing. Just my 2

 

[Yeahha]

Nothing gets back to the Artist when you buy from iTunes either. What's the difference? A collection society is being paid, with agreements forged(forced) with the RIAA. Oh, the irony.

I believe the artist gets a small (very small) portion of the 99

 

[IOWA]

I believe the artist gets a small (very small) portion of the 99

 

[Yeahha]

The RIAA/Labels pull some funny math with that too, they cut out a portion of what the artist get's "paid" and throws it into some other fund/pocket. I forget where I read that, probably on techdirt, so I can't back it up. I wouldn't put it past the RIAA though.

I am sure you are right. I wouldn't put it past them. It is sad how little the artist actually gets for the music they produce and how much all the middle men get

And if I want to support the artist, (which I do, frequently) I do something that generates much more profit for them. I go to their concerts, and spread the word about how good they are.

That is the best way to support the artist. A t-shirt from a concert will likely get the artist more money than buying all their songs online even from obviously legit places.

 

[argedion]

Check the post's 'edit by'

ahhh i can see it now that i'm on computer.


Actually the artist get very little of any moneys earned from album / radio sales exposure. Only way the artist gets anything from those revenues is if They own the actual copyrites. Musicians usually get their money from touring. Also many of them do not own the copyrites to their own music. Micheal Jackson was one of the few who owned most of his after he outbid Paul Mc Cartney or the Copyrites for the Beatles.