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Froyo pushed back

Thare187 said:
We love to complain? I paid $200 for a phone with a broken GPS. I took their word and didn't take the phone back when they said they were going to fix it. They have yet to fix and probably never will fix the phone. I'm convinced it's a hardware and not a software problem. But I guess that makes me a spoiled brat because I should be OK with a half-broken phone? Please explain to me?
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from what i hear they are applying the fix and will distribute it with froyo, no need to cry they never gave a date. if you wanted to be sure you got it then you shouldve returned the phone and bought it again when an update came out
 
I wish I could do a half ass job at work. Give the customer a nearly complete product, and collect money for it with the promos that I will finish it later. Then take my set time on it til the product is obsolete and everyone stops complaining because they just "moved on"

I don't think the problem is with society expecting that the item they paid for works, I think the problem is with society letting companies herd us like sheep to each new release of their unfinished products.
 
artvandalay22222 said:
I wish I could do a half ass job at work. Give the customer a nearly complete product, and collect money for it with the promos that I will finish it later. Then take my set time on it til the product is obsolete and everyone stops complaining because they just "moved on"

I don't think the problem is with society expecting that the item they paid for works, I think the problem is with society letting companies herd us like sheep to each new release of their unfinished products.
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mines complete
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I got a firmware version update 1 to 2.1 and thought it was the 2.2 update a couple weeks ago. The lag's gone is all I noticed. Until I tried connecting it to the PC earlier today to download something to it. The phone beeps but no notification comes up, the PC doesn't even see it so I can no longer connect it to the PC. I had connected it to the PC a number of times before using Kies and using it as a mass storage device, all without problems. Now I can't. This is aggravating.
 
artvandalay22222 said:
oh yeah. Since yours works fine (or you don't really know that it's not) then the problem must not exist
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Yeah, since your GPS is broken, that means that everyone has a GPS problem with their phone. He was just correcting artvandalay22222 who claimed that the product was originally given out with a broken GPS, which isn't true since you have phones with working GPS' (such as mine).
 
OK let me get this straight. First you complain they rushed out a product "not complete". Now you are complaining that they wont rush out a "buggy update"? Sounds like a bunch of spoiled brats to me.

BTW I used my GPS a few times on trips and havent had any problems with it. Im not sure what the big fuss about that is.
 
fldude99 said:
^^^How do you post a screenshot?
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Taking screenshots - CapFAQ

"broken" needn't imply 100% of all units off the assembly line. If a significant percentage of units have a GPS that functions so poorly as to be nearly useless, it's legit to refer to the device as "broken" even if it's not universal and some people were lucky enough to get a fluke device that seems to work fine.

We're at that point with the Captivate.
 
I think its pretty common knowledge amongst captivate users that gps is broken. Also a screenshot of gps test only proves that it was working at that particular time. Mine works sometimes too, though rarely. It also doesn't prove actual accuracy. Drive around downtown where there's alot of roads and use mytracks to draw your actual route and then try again in a couple days.
I do believe you that yours works, just don't assume that because yours works fine that its not a problem. Also, I travel alot, and I bought this phone so I didn't have to bring a separate gps. I didn't return it because I like the phone and was hopeful samsung would keep to their word and release a fix for it
 
Roachk1lla said:
BTW I used my GPS a few times on trips and havent had any problems with it. Im not sure what the big fuss about that is.
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So....yours (and a handful of others) works fine, that must mean that millions of others who claim theres is broken are crazy and delusional and just like to complain to annoy people like you?

This phone had huge potential and could have really put the hurt of the "godphone" (iPhone). If all those iPhone sheeple standing in line for 3 days just to get their name on a waiting list to wait another month or two for the iPhone could have seen this nice sexy, FULLY FUNCTIONING, captivate smiling at them with its bigass screen, custom homescreens running apps that Apple users cant even dream of, and widgets all over the place, they probably would have sold A LOT more of them.. Instead, we have this.. a daily deluge of posts about problems new and old, and continuous pushbacks, incomplete updates, and horrible misinformation being constantly pumped out my Samsung "support".
 
CrimsonPride said:
mines complete
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You either were able to fix your GPS by rooting your phone, or you were lucky enough to get a phone that is an outlier (meaning it was manufactured differently than other phones). It is well documented all over the internet that the Samsung Captivate has GPS problems. Both AT&T and Samsung have acknowledged it. I have a friend that just got this phone last week and she is having the same problems. So, your assumption that newer Captivate phones don't have GPS problems doesn't make sense. I don't care too much because I have a Garmin. But, is it wrong for people to complain that a product is not performing as advertised?
 
charlie310 said:
You either were able to fix your GPS by rooting your phone, or you were lucky enough to get a phone that is an outlier (meaning it was manufactured differently than other phones). It is well documented all over the internet that the Samsung Captivate has GPS problems. Both AT&T and Samsung have acknowledged it. I have a friend that just got this phone last week and she is having the same problems. So, your assumption that newer Captivate phones don't have GPS problems doesn't make sense. I don't care too much because I have a Garmin. But, is it wrong for people to complain that a product is not performing as advertised?
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i know there are gps problems. but i have owned 2 phones, one i bought the day it came out and its gps was fine, it bricked during the update and i received another new one. its gps is even better but the first one was functional and i used it. im sure people have gps all i said is mine works and that was directed at people saying samsung was selling broken phones, mines not broken
 
I know I am going to sound like a whiny brat here, but after owning several smartphone (HTC and Motorola), I don't think that the 32.8 ft accuracy is acceptable (other phones can easily place you within ten feet, thirty feet is the difference of a street width or possibly even two seperate gowalla points). Some of the most useful Android apps are location-based, and this issue is crippling users' experience of such a great OS.
 
30' is only acceptable for weather and "what's near me?" apps. It's utterly useless for any sort of routing as 30' can mean the difference between being on the road you're actually on or it thinking you're on the 1-way road on the other side of the median and that you need to take some U-turn about half a mile behind where you actually are.

Often it thinks I'm a few blocks away, which doesn't help things either.
 
Well, mine always gets me within 5 meters, and away from the numbers, it always gets to where I am on the map without much problems. I mean, yeah, there used to be issues with the GPS not locking, but that's more of a software issue I think since I'd see 10 satellites with good strength and not lock on to any of them.

As for Infinite-T, he really got one part down. If Samsung had better customer support, they really could have wiped Droid or the iPhone or anything else out of the market. Other than for the vast App Store, which is now not such a factor as Android is catching up, currently with 100k apps, the Captivate really has everything else down and it really does surpass the iPhone in every way possible. Oh well, it was all Samsung's fault, but w/e, it really coulda been something, eh.
 
I'd be happy even with a 30 foot accuracy. My phone can't even see anything more than 2 sats, forget about locking onto them. GPS on my phone doesn't work at all.
 
CrimsonPride said:
i wouldnt call it an official leak but it does work, i was using it till i started running cognition. i would call it more of a froyo beta but it ran fine
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thanks for reply.

So is there any chance of reverting it back to Eclair?

Also the method says to download .exe file using download mode. So can i also pur Flash player from website directly using this method?
 
viny2cool said:
thanks for reply.

So is there any chance of reverting it back to Eclair?

Also the method says to download .exe file using download mode. So can i also pur Flash player from website directly using this method?
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well i would make a recovery using rom manager and clockwork recovery. then you can go back to how your phone is now from anytime. and you can download flashplayer from the market
 
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