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EarlyMon said:
Who is putting up 'interceptor' cell towers? The mystery deepens
Who is putting up 'interceptor' cell towers? The mystery deepens | VentureBeat | Security | by Barry Levine
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So when did you buy stock in Alcoa EM? I'm ready to construct a tin foil hat.:afraid:

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halon said:
So why don't they just take them down?
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No one really knows who or what is on these towers. Farmers lease land to some company to construct a tower. Said company builds the tower and then assigns the lease to another company, who furthur assigns it to another company. In most cases, the companies doing the leasing is an LLC named after the property address where the tower is (e.g. 1 Main Street LLC) and it's all washed through a myriad of shell companies.

At that point, you have third party companies that lease and sublet positions on these towers through similarly obfuscated companies to the actual carriers. In other cases, these leasing companies arrays are sitting along side arrays that are owned by the carriers.

Also, you have church steeples, silos, water tanks, and anything else tall that happens to be in the right place for cellular coverage where the owner is happy to take free cash from someone that wants to put antennas on it.

It's not as simple as having VZW's antenna painted bright red and sprint's painted bright yellow and the unpainted one being rogue.
 
Unforgiven said:
No one really knows who or what is on these towers. Farmers lease land to some company to construct a tower. Said company builds the tower and then assigns the lease to another company, who furthur assigns it to another company. In most cases, the companies doing the leasing is an LLC named after the property address where the tower is (e.g. 1 Main Street LLC) and it's all washed through a myriad of shell companies.

At that point, you have third party companies that lease and sublet positions on these towers through similarly obfuscated companies to the actual carriers. In other cases, these leasing companies arrays are sitting along side arrays that are owned by the carriers.

Also, you have church steeples, silos, water tanks, and anything else tall that happens to be in the right place for cellular coverage where the owner is happy to take free cash from someone that wants to put antennas on it.

It's not as simple as having VZW's antenna painted bright red and sprint's painted bright yellow and the unpainted one being rogue.
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Well maybe they should put rules in place foridentifying exactly who owns the tower. But from the sounds of it probably wouldn't help. Although if you take them down either the owners will finally show up and complain and if they don't then you know it's a scam.
 
Tower ownership isn't a problem. They are attached to the ground, and are therefor real property. All real property had a written, and recorded, chain of title through deeds and a registry that records all real property transactions. These vary from state to state, but more or less we inherited the British rule of law so that all interests in real property must be in writing and publicly recorded. The we know who "owns" the steal stick poking out of the ground. We often know who has signed a lease for it. In most cases, we are able to figure out who the 15th group is that sublets it, as they are pulling permits to add, replace, or update arrays on the tower. Who they are leasing space to on the tower is not real property, so it gets awful cloudy there. Plus, the people that understand and have a vested interest in tracking tower ownership, and maybe even personal property ownership for arrays on said tower, often don't have the alternative knowledge to understand cellular networks and how they assemble their coverage areas and use GIS and topography to maximize their coverage areas.

Quite simply it's too much disparate information across too many specifically focused bureaucracies in order for efficient recognition of who all the players are. I can easily see that the lack of a professional vested interest combined with limited understanding of personal risks fully enabling rogue arrays being deployed.
 
According to the largest Dutch tech forum Tweakersnet the Note 4 is going to cost 800 euros ($1050), starting next month. Samsung isn't offering the slick Edge to us Dutchies :(
 
Softcard is the best name they could come up with?!

Can't we just make Google Wallet the official payment system?
 
I would too: but Big Red owns the signal where I live. I can use AT&T... but I'd have to stand on the porch, phone in left hand, wad of aluminum foil in the right hand, and wave the roll toward the nearest tower just to make a call.

So VZ owns us right now.
 
The_Chief said:
I would too: but Big Red owns the signal where I live. I can use AT&T... but I'd have to stand on the porch, phone in left hand, wad of aluminum foil in the right hand, and wave the roll toward the nearest tower just to make a call.

So VZ owns us right now.
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:ditto: My work tried giving me an AT&T phone. I got tired of walking around my yard waving my arms like I was singing "We are the world" just to keep a signal to talk.:mad:
 
I'm intrigued by the Note Edge.

Does anyone know if they will be available on Amazon? Was the Note 3 available there on Day 1?

I've got a crapload of credit for Amazon. I figure I'll get it there, and then sell my Note 3 afterwards.

Anyone know?
 
HanSolo said:
I'm intrigued by the Note Edge.

Does anyone know if they will be available on Amazon? Was the Note 3 available there on Day 1?

I've got a crapload of credit for Amazon. I figure I'll get it there, and then sell my Note 3 afterwards.

Anyone know?
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I might be interested in buying your Note 3 for my mom?
 
Hey, anyone want to join a fantasy football league I'm setting up?

Join Here: http://fantasy.nfl.com/registration/privateleaguejoin?leagueId=2877170
(cut and paste the above address. Clicking on it doesn't work)
League ID: 2877170
League Password: hansolo





Max of 10 teams. First come first served.

The draft is at 6:30pm EST tomorrow.

Edit: Actually it's tomorrow, not today!! Sorry
 
The Verge says the Moto 360 never lasted a day. I'm second guessing now :(

The new Moto X seems pretty sweet!
 
halon said:
The Verge says the Moto 360 never lasted a day. I'm second guessing now :(

The new Moto X seems pretty sweet!
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Yep, just finished David's review. :(
Oh well, I don't have the money for it at the moment, and for just about all intents and purposes my Pebble still does what I want a watch to do (and give me days of battery life).
Dat watch is beautiful though!

More vids!
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/09/04/new-moto-x-2014-unboxing-and-hands-on/

Glad I couldn't sleep and got up for this. :)
 
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