civicsisedan
Android Expert
uh how small are your thumbs?
its not hard at all on the incredible
its not hard at all on the incredible
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HTC Incredible VS. Droid X
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gorenut
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I'm quite the opposite and kind of glad it has a trackpad. I know many have complained about it, but I do all of my homescreen changes on the trackpad. Maybe my unit was a fluke and the trackpad works awesomely on mine.
Doubledee90
Android Enthusiast
I have a Droid and I am available for an upgrade, adn by the time the DInc becomes available the Droid X will be out, so I have some options. At first I wanted the DInc 100% but the more I see on the DX I want it more and more. I am torn between the 2 because I do love Sense, bu the DX looks so fast and smooth. I will have to try out the big screen first, but I dont wear skinny jeans so I think it should fit just fine. Decisions, decisions...
MisterMixelpix
Android Expert
Depends. The X is more of a powerhouse, like a tiny portable netbook that also makes calls. The Inc is what I'd call the epitome of a "smartphone". Both are pretty sick awesome, it just depends on what you want.
Ok, so after reading more about it here is my summary on key points, mostly to serve as an organizing tool for myself (haven't decided which to get), but others can read as well. Some of it will be conjecture on my part since the Droid X hasn't been released, and I'll make some assumptions based on the Droid's performance and Motorola in general.
Call quality: Some people have complained about the Incredible's call quality/signal strength, using codes to activate more towers, etc. The Moto Droid hasn't been plagued with these issues, and I'd expect the X to continue this.
Advantage: X
Battery life: One of the key sticking points for some Incredible owners (although it varies widely), the X uses an OMAP processor than should have less power consumption than its Snapdragon counterpart. Plus, it comes with a 1500 mah battery as opposed to 1300 mah for the Incredible (I might be off my 50 mah's on one of those...)Adv
Advantage: X
Sexiness/aesthetic styling: This is personal taste I suppose, but to me, Motorola's phones in general look out-of-date already (if you don't turn it on) and more like a brick. HTC really has nice clean lines and a great form to the phone.
Advantage: Incredible
Durability/build quality: Based on simply Motorola's reputation and that of the Droid, I'm going to have to give the X the edge here. There have been numerous stories on the Incredible of cracked screens, broken when dropped, etc. which certainily happens for every phone, but it seems like the Droid is built like an indestructible brick unlike the Incredible. So, I'd expect it will be the same with the X.
Advantage: X
UI: Both Android, but Sense vs. Motoblur. Supposely, Motorola is going to be using an upgraded version of motoblur known as Ninjablur that is less intrustive and more aesthetically pleasing. But if history has taught us anything, it's that HTC is the best with the overlays and its Sense is the best in the game. I'm personalyl not a fan of stock android, and for some this won't matter as they root, create their own, use Launcher Pro, etc. But I'm giving the advantage to the Incredible.
Advantage: Incredible
Software upgrades: If we go by history, I'd have to say it's more likely that motorola will be getting android updates faster than HTC. This may be a Verizon testing issue with Sense or an HTC issue, I'm not sure. But this has historically been the case.
Advantage: X
Software in general: Both running Android 2.1 as far as I know. There were some rumors that Moto X will be running 2.2, but I haven't seen that substantiated.
Advantage: Tie
Screen size: Moto has a bigger screen for sure (4.3" vs. 3.7") for better movie viewing, etc. For some this will cause issues on overall size, but that's going to be a different category:
Advantage: X
Screen quality: The Incredible has a nice AMOLED screen that has vibrant colors, but has serious issues in outside sunlight. The X has an LCD screen that is larger, but has the essentially the same resolution as the incredible. Perhaps still some outside sunlight issues, but based on past tests LCD performs better in those conditions.
Advantage: Tie
Pocketability: This is probably the third most important criteria for me behind call quality (yeah, I actually use my phone to make calls) and battery life. While in zoomed in pictures, the X looks like a beast next to the Incredible, the difference isn't as great as some would think. The X is 0.5" taller and 0.2" wider, but actually thinner than the Incredible. However, the Incredible is still a smaller phone so it wins the pocketability, but the difference isn't as huge as some would immediately think due to the 0.6" screen size difference (personally, i find the Incredible to be the perfect size for a phone). The size of the X might also be an issue for those with smaller hands who have trouble finding the space bar or simply holding it up to their ear.
Advantage: Incredible
Processor: The Incredible uses a 1 GHz snapdragon manufactured by Qualcomm, while the X will be sporting a 1 GHz OMAP processor manufactured by TI. While the power consumption of the OMAP is less, it seems like the speeds will be comparable.
Advantage: Tie
Internal Memory: Incredible has 8 GB, which is expandable via an SD slot. Moto X is rumored to also have 8 GB (although 16 GB was reported somewhere). For now, I'll give it a tie.
Advantage: Tie
Camera: Without more info besides the 8 MP, both seem like top notch with dual LED flash.
Advantage: Tie
Video recording: Have to give the edge to the X as it can record in 720p. Anybody know how much hard drive space a short 720p video takes up? I'd imagine quite a bit so I'd think that would fill up space mighty fast.
Advantage: X
Ok, that's all I got for now. I guess I could have said other features like HDMI output which the X has and Incredible doesn't. For me, call quality/call features, battery life, pocketability, and the web browsing experience are the top 4 criteria in my phone usage. So, I think I'm leaning towards the X due to expected advantages in the first two (which haven't been validated yet), but I would say neither phone is definitively better than the other. It all depends on what you're looking for. Just because I have the X winning more categories doesn't mean I think it's better. Every criteria has a different importance depending on the individual so you can't say X wins because it's 6 to 3. I hate it when reviews do that...
Hope that helps to summarize general feelings! But obviously some will disagree. And feel free to correct any factual mistakes as I'm certainly not perfect...and am doing this all on memory.
Call quality: Some people have complained about the Incredible's call quality/signal strength, using codes to activate more towers, etc. The Moto Droid hasn't been plagued with these issues, and I'd expect the X to continue this.
Advantage: X
Battery life: One of the key sticking points for some Incredible owners (although it varies widely), the X uses an OMAP processor than should have less power consumption than its Snapdragon counterpart. Plus, it comes with a 1500 mah battery as opposed to 1300 mah for the Incredible (I might be off my 50 mah's on one of those...)Adv
Advantage: X
Sexiness/aesthetic styling: This is personal taste I suppose, but to me, Motorola's phones in general look out-of-date already (if you don't turn it on) and more like a brick. HTC really has nice clean lines and a great form to the phone.
Advantage: Incredible
Durability/build quality: Based on simply Motorola's reputation and that of the Droid, I'm going to have to give the X the edge here. There have been numerous stories on the Incredible of cracked screens, broken when dropped, etc. which certainily happens for every phone, but it seems like the Droid is built like an indestructible brick unlike the Incredible. So, I'd expect it will be the same with the X.
Advantage: X
UI: Both Android, but Sense vs. Motoblur. Supposely, Motorola is going to be using an upgraded version of motoblur known as Ninjablur that is less intrustive and more aesthetically pleasing. But if history has taught us anything, it's that HTC is the best with the overlays and its Sense is the best in the game. I'm personalyl not a fan of stock android, and for some this won't matter as they root, create their own, use Launcher Pro, etc. But I'm giving the advantage to the Incredible.
Advantage: Incredible
Software upgrades: If we go by history, I'd have to say it's more likely that motorola will be getting android updates faster than HTC. This may be a Verizon testing issue with Sense or an HTC issue, I'm not sure. But this has historically been the case.
Advantage: X
Software in general: Both running Android 2.1 as far as I know. There were some rumors that Moto X will be running 2.2, but I haven't seen that substantiated.
Advantage: Tie
Screen size: Moto has a bigger screen for sure (4.3" vs. 3.7") for better movie viewing, etc. For some this will cause issues on overall size, but that's going to be a different category:
Advantage: X
Screen quality: The Incredible has a nice AMOLED screen that has vibrant colors, but has serious issues in outside sunlight. The X has an LCD screen that is larger, but has the essentially the same resolution as the incredible. Perhaps still some outside sunlight issues, but based on past tests LCD performs better in those conditions.
Advantage: Tie
Pocketability: This is probably the third most important criteria for me behind call quality (yeah, I actually use my phone to make calls) and battery life. While in zoomed in pictures, the X looks like a beast next to the Incredible, the difference isn't as great as some would think. The X is 0.5" taller and 0.2" wider, but actually thinner than the Incredible. However, the Incredible is still a smaller phone so it wins the pocketability, but the difference isn't as huge as some would immediately think due to the 0.6" screen size difference (personally, i find the Incredible to be the perfect size for a phone). The size of the X might also be an issue for those with smaller hands who have trouble finding the space bar or simply holding it up to their ear.
Advantage: Incredible
Processor: The Incredible uses a 1 GHz snapdragon manufactured by Qualcomm, while the X will be sporting a 1 GHz OMAP processor manufactured by TI. While the power consumption of the OMAP is less, it seems like the speeds will be comparable.
Advantage: Tie
Internal Memory: Incredible has 8 GB, which is expandable via an SD slot. Moto X is rumored to also have 8 GB (although 16 GB was reported somewhere). For now, I'll give it a tie.
Advantage: Tie
Camera: Without more info besides the 8 MP, both seem like top notch with dual LED flash.
Advantage: Tie
Video recording: Have to give the edge to the X as it can record in 720p. Anybody know how much hard drive space a short 720p video takes up? I'd imagine quite a bit so I'd think that would fill up space mighty fast.
Advantage: X
Ok, that's all I got for now. I guess I could have said other features like HDMI output which the X has and Incredible doesn't. For me, call quality/call features, battery life, pocketability, and the web browsing experience are the top 4 criteria in my phone usage. So, I think I'm leaning towards the X due to expected advantages in the first two (which haven't been validated yet), but I would say neither phone is definitively better than the other. It all depends on what you're looking for. Just because I have the X winning more categories doesn't mean I think it's better. Every criteria has a different importance depending on the individual so you can't say X wins because it's 6 to 3. I hate it when reviews do that...
Hope that helps to summarize general feelings! But obviously some will disagree. And feel free to correct any factual mistakes as I'm certainly not perfect...and am doing this all on memory.
MisterMixelpix
Android Expert
Good writeup, but unfortunately some of your points are based on the regular Droid, so we don't REALLY know. And saying the X "wins" on screen size is a little foolish, it's like putting a 14.1" laptop against a 15.7" and saying the bigger one "wins". It's not an objective criterion like storage or proc speed.
Also the battery life has nothing to do with battery life, just one comes with a bigger battery. Put a Seidio 1750 in both and who wins? If that big screen is any kind of a hint, the X isn't going to have great battery life.
To me it's a tie overall, the tipping factors are Sense/Blur, screen size, and if you want a keyboard. That's about it.
Also the battery life has nothing to do with battery life, just one comes with a bigger battery. Put a Seidio 1750 in both and who wins? If that big screen is any kind of a hint, the X isn't going to have great battery life.
To me it's a tie overall, the tipping factors are Sense/Blur, screen size, and if you want a keyboard. That's about it.
gorenut
Well-Known Member
Can someone please clarify? I was under the impression that its actually the next Droid (being released in Aug) that will have a physical keyboard, not this one.... yet I keep seeing mention of a physical keyboard on this one. I'm more inclined to believe that this one doesn't have the physical keyboard.. especially seeing how its actually thinner than the Incred.
dmiller2007
Android Expert
Great write up. And to mister mixelpix, the X's omap processor is supposed to be far less power hungry while outperforming the snapdragon, I'd be surprised if there wasn't a drastic improvement in battery life. Its generally accepted that omap> snapdragon. Check quadrant rankings and you'll see that whatever is powering the X is doing something impressive. I believe it is still being called the shadow in it.
Neither have a keyboard. I'd agree that many of those points are subjective and I made some assumptions based on the available information and my own opinion. In regards to screen size, I think it's pretty definitive that people prefer viewing things on a larger screen when when we're talking smaller than 5". However, the big screen certainly comes with drawbacks like handling it, making the overall size of the phone larger, and perhaps quality. That's why I tried to include pocketability and screen quality to account for those factors. And, yeah, I'd agree we don't really know until it comes out and people have tested it. That's for sure. I think most of the differences are negligible so it really comes down to what people seek the most in their phone.
You are correct. The Droid X will NOT have a physical keyboard. The Droid 2, supposedly being released in August, will essentially be an updated Droid and have a pullout keyboard.
dmiller2007
Android Expert
Physical keyboard is on the droid 2, not the droid x.
Doubledee90
Android Enthusiast
NEWS ALERT...no OMAP for Droid X...it comes with a Snapdragon like the Incredible.
Source form Verizon themselves. DroidLanding (DroidLanding) on Twitter
That is their twitter page for the Droid X I know its real because its in the Droid X commercial subliminally.
Not so secret Droid X Twitter page found | Android Central
Dealbreaker?
Source form Verizon themselves. DroidLanding (DroidLanding) on Twitter
That is their twitter page for the Droid X I know its real because its in the Droid X commercial subliminally.
Not so secret Droid X Twitter page found | Android Central
Dealbreaker?
gorenut
Well-Known Member
Thanks for this update. While if I had my heart set on either phone, it really wouldn't be a deal breaker.. but it does leave one less thing for Incred owners to be questioning about. It really comes down to more about size preference it seems at this point.
Though I did hear it comes standard with SWYPE (via Engadget), that's kinda nice I suppose (I'm sure most of us already have it though).
dmiller2007
Android Expert
Well that really sucks. I was really looking forward to an omap in the droid x. One of the major reasons I wanted it. But oh well.
gorenut
Well-Known Member
Agreed. It was the one little thing that had me question if it was worth juggling over to a new phone (I'm on a family plan and due for another free phone on another line. I could have easily sold my Incred, get this one, and still come out $100 on top) - but I think I'll save it for something better. Finding out for certain that this isn't the one with the physical keyboard also makes me wonder why Verizon would release such a similar phone so soon (I'm guessing to tackle EVO).
Doubledee90
Android Enthusiast
Me too, now Im leaning more towards the Dinc again
dmiller2007
Android Expert
Idk how official that twitter account is tho because every report so far says omap
jayjay1122
Android Expert
I agree with us not knowing how official the Twitter account is, but almost every link I have clicked on and all the information I have seen outside of this forum states a 1ghz snapdragon. The only info I saw that it was the OMAP was in a Motorola thread on this site by someone claiming to be a beta tester...
The moral of the story is we all thought the Incredible was going to be under-clocked to 750mhz almost up to the day it came out...we just don't know yet.
gorenut
Well-Known Member
Well, I don't know if this clarifies any.. but here is a link
Droid X to have 1Ghz Snapdragon CPU AndroidSPIN
I know DroidLanding is the official Twitter account for the Droid X
Droid X to have 1Ghz Snapdragon CPU AndroidSPIN
I know DroidLanding is the official Twitter account for the Droid X
jayjay1122
Android Expert
Real quickly I found these:
More details leaked on Motorola Xtreme - AfterDawn
New pics of the Droid X emerge, looking like a major player (updated) | Android Central
LOL!!! The second one just "updated" to say it MAY be the OMAP!!!
Its almost not worth posting these things till its released!
More details leaked on Motorola Xtreme - AfterDawn
New pics of the Droid X emerge, looking like a major player (updated) | Android Central
LOL!!! The second one just "updated" to say it MAY be the OMAP!!!
Its almost not worth posting these things till its released!
It was engadget that started the OMAP rumor as far as I can tell.
Exclusive: Motorola Droid X preview -- Engadget
So, they didn't make a definitive statement, but instead an educated guess...Who knows. But I agree that if running Snapdragon this changes things a bit. I don't think the speed will be much different, but I was hoping for reduced power consumption to increase the battery life.
jayjay1122
Android Expert
Yeah, I think we need to wait till Motorola released the official specs...
dmiller2007
Android Expert
True that you need to take info prior to releases with a grain of salt, the only "hard proof" is in the quadrant benchmark app. The only phone scoring higher than the X was the nexus one running FroYo. This was when the X was code named the shadow. It just doesn't add up that the same old snapdragon is that capable.
gorenut
Well-Known Member
Real quickly I found these:
More details leaked on Motorola Xtreme - AfterDawn
New pics of the Droid X emerge, looking like a major player (updated) | Android Central
LOL!!! The second one just "updated" to say it MAY be the OMAP!!!
Its almost not worth posting these things till its released!
The thing is, the links above were all posted on dates before the link I found (not to mention Twitter update from DroidLanding). However, I do agree.. with info changing so fast and random misinformation coming at crazy rates, we really won't know til release date.
dmiller2007
Android Expert
Did they delete the 2nd tweet? I saw it when they first put it up and now it's not showing up. Just making sure the problem is on my end and they didn't delete it
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