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HTC Inspire Battery Experiences...

Totally missed that. Any idea of what? Power supply unit maybe? Seems like it's become a really efficient device (possibly why it took so long to get it over here?).


Wait, you guys do know the basics of microchip architecture right?

The original snapdragon was built on a 65nm manufacturing process. The second generation snap dragon runs on a .45nm manufacturing process.

When you shrink the die like that it results in SIGNIFICANTLY reduced power consumption with the same architecture at the same mhz..at significantly less heat production. Added to that each silicon wafer produces that many MORE chips per run resulting in cheaper manufacturing costs. The result is that you could pop on a larger batter and easily run a 45nm snap dragon at 1.2+ghz without it over heating (safely)..but running it at 1ghz = much less power consumption and cooler temperatures (in addition to cost).

I am soooo sorry. (not being sarcastic). I really thought everyone already understood this about the Inspire and why the 1230 battery was selected or id have brought it up sooner.

Here are some numbers:


SECOND GENERATION:

The MSM8x55 chipset platform consists of the MSM8255™ and MSM8655™ and features a newly designed and optimized multimedia sub-system over previous Snapdragon generations.

  • Scorpion 1 GHz CPU
  • Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
    • MSM8255 support for HSPA+ networks – up to14 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads
    • MSM8655 support for HSPA+ networks – up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads – as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B
  • Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance
  • High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
  • Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, MPEG-2, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, On2 VP6)
High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/se with dedicated 2D Open VG graphics hardware
High-resolution up to XGA (1024x768) display support
12-megapixel camera support
Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
Support for Wi-Fi
 
Wait, you guys do know the basics of microchip architecture right?

The original snapdragon was built on a 65nm manufacturing process. The second generation snap dragon runs on a .45nm manufacturing process.

When you shrink the die like that it results in SIGNIFICANTLY reduced power consumption with the same architecture at the same mhz..at significantly less heat production. Added to that each silicon wafer produces that many MORE chips per run resulting in cheaper manufacturing costs. The result is that you could pop on a larger batter and easily run a 45nm snap dragon at 1.2+ghz without it over heating (safely)..but running it at 1ghz = much less power consumption and cooler temperatures (in addition to cost).

I am soooo sorry. (not being sarcastic). I really thought everyone already understood this about the Inspire and why the 1230 battery was selected or id have brought it up sooner.

Here are some numbers:

I understand the idea of the difference in microchip design, but this same chip is in the Desire HD and the reviews for battery life are a lot more favorable for the Inspire than they are for the Desire, and they are essentially the same device. Some kind of tweak must have been made somewhere to better manage the battery life.
 
I understand the idea of the difference in microchip design, but this same chip is in the Desire HD and the reviews for battery life are a lot more favorable for the Inspire than they are for the Desire, and they are essentially the same device. Some kind of tweak must have been made somewhere to better manage the battery life.


So much for my theory...maybe some kind of better app management profile or maybe something on the HD was sucking down extra power.
 
Im more or less set on this phone, but like others the battery thing concerns me. I understand what Allen is saying about a more efficient chipset, but bottom line...is this device going to make it a whole day on a single charge? I work for a startup and we use our celly's for all our work calls, so I cant have this thing sucking down a full charge every few hours. I need to be able to have a decent 120 or more minutes of talk time, then check mails (but not all day, we do have laptops!), run some apps, texting with da wife, etc.

Thoughts?
 
Dude, how many times in how many threads linking how many reviews will it take? I dont mean to be rude, but everyone who has used the phone for more than a day says it lasts through the day just fine. everyone who is making an issue or speculating on the battery has never used it for a whole day. Rename this thread to "Battery non-issue"
 
Dude, how many times in how many threads linking how many reviews will it take? I dont mean to be rude, but everyone who has used the phone for more than a day says it lasts through the day just fine. everyone who is making an issue or speculating on the battery has never used it for a whole day. Rename this thread to "Battery non-issue"

+1 Fact is, no one here really knows anymore about the battery life than anyone else in these parts. For now, we take the "reviewers" word for it. That word that they are giving us is that it will be just fine for a days use. Until we get our own real-world phones in our grubby little hands, it's all a big guess.
 
From what I have gathered, which is the case for any Android phone, it depends on your usage. For the DHD, most users seem to be happy with the battery life they are getting, but some are complaining.

If you are a heavy user (alot of 3G, syncing with calenders/e-mail, streaming, surfing, etc), then you might have to consider carrying around a backup battery (if you don't want to buy a backup battery, then at the very least, keep a car charger in your car and the desk charger in your briefcase at all times).
 
Not be be rude, myself.....but the device is barely out and "everyone who has used this phone and stated their batt life experience" is like...two people. Even the reviews that are posted state that they dont have full experience on what battery life is like.

I really would prefer not to get into a flame war/argument on my first topic...but Im kinda thinking asking a simple question about battery life in a thread called "Battery issue" on a phone that isnt even launched yet isnt a terrible thing.

Come on man...Im just asking a question about an attribute/feature of the device. Isnt that what these forums are for?
 
Its more than 2 people, and would those '2 people' not be the people who have the answer? Everyone else can only speculate as they have not personally used the phone. There are several videos available with unboxing and Q & A (htc source comes to mind). All the videos I have seen and all of the people who have used the phone have said the battery will last a full day, but not 'much more'. Thats all that can really be said at this point. No flame wars, just putting the question to bed hopefully.
 
I agree but I think the issue in this title which it is referring to is the size of the battery (1250mAh) which is smaller than pretty much all other high end phones on the market (including its T-Mobile brother).
 
From what I have gathered, which is the case for any Android phone, it depends on your usage. For the DHD, most users seem to be happy with the battery life they are getting, but some are complaining.

If you are a heavy user (alot of 3G, syncing with calenders/e-mail, streaming, surfing, etc), then you might have to consider carrying around a backup battery (if you don't want to buy a backup battery, then at the very least, keep a car charger in your car and the desk charger in your briefcase at all times).

What's amazing to me about those that complain about battery life (and, yes, it's not this way for everyone) is that they do some insane use of their phones in a day, and still aren't satisfied. Movie watching on the train/bus, pandora listening at work, texting and IMing all day long, talking on the phone, downloading music and large files, etc.... it's never enough, for some people just can't be satisfied in todays world. Not saying that's anyone around here, but it does happen.
 
I agree but I think the issue in this title which it is referring to is the size of the battery (1250mAh) which is smaller than pretty much all other high end phones on the market (including its T-Mobile brother).

Personally, I think the size of a battery is misleading. Good power management, and efficient programming do a world of good towards battery consumption. HTC is really starting to nail it!
 
Personally, I think the size of a battery is misleading. Good power management, and efficient programming do a world of good towards battery consumption. HTC is really starting to nail it!

Precisely this. I sort of think of it like MP in the camera. 8 MP isn't necessarily better than 5 MP. a 5MP camera can have better quality depending upon the lense, software, etc. It is all relative.
 
You could also buy an additional battery if you know you won't be near a power source (say traveling somewhere) and switch to the 2nd battery if it's necessary. Not sure how much an extra 1250 mAH battery would cost, but at least this will give you peace of mind.
 
What's amazing to me about those that complain about battery life (and, yes, it's not this way for everyone) is that they do some insane use of their phones in a day, and still aren't satisfied. Movie watching on the train/bus, pandora listening at work, texting and IMing all day long, talking on the phone, downloading music and large files, etc.... it's never enough, for some people just can't be satisfied in todays world. Not saying that's anyone around here, but it does happen.

Wow...that just might be the dumbest thing I read all day.

You may like under-utilizing your phone, but giving anyone grief for wanting to use their phone however they see fit is just wrong.

I really don't understand how some of you are cool with putting up with small battery capacity and/or battery life.
 
Wow...that just might be the dumbest thing I read all day.

You may like under-utilizing your phone, but giving anyone grief for wanting to use their phone however they see fit is just wrong.

I really don't understand how some of you are cool with putting up with small battery capacity and/or battery life.

Wow, and you must be the biggest troll I've seen on here all week. If you don't like opinions, move on and don't be a jackass. People are here to help each other, if you wanna go against the grain, go somewhere else. Good luck with your arrogance and ignorance.
 
Wow...that just might be the dumbest thing I read all day.

You may like under-utilizing your phone, but giving anyone grief for wanting to use their phone however they see fit is just wrong.

I really don't understand how some of you are cool with putting up with small battery capacity and/or battery life.

Cars can go 125 MPH all day long, too. But doing so isnt a good thing and beyond what they are designed to do. Same principal here. If you are going to use the device heavily....too heavily...than you cannot expect or DEMAND an unrealistic level of performance.

What *I* am asking is that for a "middle of the road" level of usage (2 some odd hours per day of talk, email, apps, an occasional video or game break, texting, etc.) will this thing make it to bedtime?
 
Now, if the Inspire is super-optimized and lasts all day with some to spare....then I'll be OK with that. I can work with that, even though I'm still bitter that we could have had the potential to go maybe 30-36hrs (maybe) if HTC or AT&T had gone with the standard 1500mAH or higher.

But to somehow say I just need to stop using my "smartphone" like a "smartphone", well, you gotta be kidding me right?
 
I really don't understand how some of you are cool with putting up with small battery capacity and/or battery life.

There you go again, spreading misinformation. Please cite a video or a forum in which there is quantifiable proof that the battery has a small capacity/life.

I won't waste my time waiting.
 
You could also buy an additional battery if you know you won't be near a power source (say traveling somewhere) and switch to the 2nd battery if it's necessary. Not sure how much an extra 1250 mAH battery would cost, but at least this will give you peace of mind.

Replacement battery is about $35 to $40 bucks but you can get a 3600mah portable for $39 that would charge the phone fully almost 3 times. With a fresh battery that morning you could go almost 4 full days with one of those and never look at a wall charger..and they are pretty slim line as well.

Ill be getting one and then probably a replacement battery for the phone it self around 6 to 9 months later..i dont anticipate EVER have any problems with this set up. The phone is so cheap..who can really complain about buying an extra battery or portable?

For the people who ignore the option of a backbup or portable battery because they are "too busy" to take 5 seconds and throw one in their lap top bag or desk or what ever...but then seem to have COUNTLESS FREE HOURS TO complain about it being a bit shorter than some of the competitions batteries....i call troll. (or at least..i call contradiction!)
 
So Allen...just to be clear Im understanding this correctly.....the fact this device has a "more efficient" chip means it should get the average, comparable battery life for a smartphone?
 
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