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If Apple sucks so much, how are they so successful?

If you find an ultraportable laptop that matches the Macbook Air, please let me know. I've searched and searched but no luck. If that's garbage, then I don't know what to call the PC versions that have tried to match the Macbook Air. :p

So have I, Vihzel. Nothing came close to the size which I wanted at the time. I found the Adamo, which I thought was cool as hell, but it was not small. I finally went with a cheap ass Toshiba Laptop.

Speaking as someone in the manufacturing end, I can tell you all Apple players, phones, their AIR . . . all are well designed and finished.
 
ill admit to apple does make good products and they are very good marketers, i just dont like apple because every one treats all their products are gods, the only things i like that they make is their mac books because lets be honest they know how to make computers and i like ipods cause they always work (for me) but other then that the ipad is just an oversized ipod touch and iphone hasnt had any crazy awesome improvements from 3gs to 4 and they over price everything,
 
Hey since we're throwing out analogies using movies and tv shows...let me throw one out there.

Apple= The Matrix (or creator):mad:
Iphone/Ipad= Agents trying to keep everyone in line :cool::cool:
Google= Morpheus (still searching for Neo to bring down the matrix):eek:
Iphone/Ipad users- Are the batteries for the machines :confused::confused::confused::confused:
Android Users- Are trying to unplug those Iphone/Ipad users from the matrix but alas some of them are not ready. :(

So many potentials for the "chosen one" but none have been able to fulfill it's destiny. I hope the SGSII or the Bionic are the chosen one.

Like my use of emoticons for the characters? :p
 
Hey since we're throwing out analogies using movies and tv shows...let me throw one out there.

Apple= The Matrix (or creator):mad:
Iphone/Ipad= Agents trying to keep everyone in line :cool::cool:
Google= Morpheus (still searching for Neo to bring down the matrix):eek:
Iphone/Ipad users- Are the batteries for the machines :confused::confused::confused::confused:
Android Users- Are trying to unplug those Iphone/Ipad users from the matrix but alas some of them are not ready. :(

So many potentials for the "chosen one" but none have been able to fulfill it's destiny. I hope the SGSII or the Bionic are the chosen one.

Like my use of emoticons for the characters? :p


ammusing analogie haha made me laugh
 
ill admit to apple does make good products and they are very good marketers, i just dont like apple because every one treats all their products are gods, the only things i like that they make is their mac books because lets be honest they know how to make computers and i like ipods cause they always work (for me) but other then that the ipad is just an oversized ipod touch and iphone hasnt had any crazy awesome improvements from 3gs to 4 and they over price everything,

However . . . if you do not like Apples pricing, then avoid Apple. This idea that Apple is bad simply because Apple is so expensive is in my opinion, silly. Some people toss that specific issue around as though it matters. It does not matter.

We have thousands of other choices out there besides Apple. I'll bet there are at least 200 cell phones out there and a thousand laptops and desktops. If you think Apple is too costly, buy something else.

And let me tell you, when you create a company that is treated like Gods on High, you achieve what most corporations will never achieve. Apple did it and some people hate Apple because of it.

Some people think Android is God, and everything else is overpriced crap. Plenty of android phones that cost you more than an iPhone. I think you can buy a new iPhone for fifty bucks, can't you?

Consider Virgin Mobile's newest entry: The Triumph. It is three hundred dollars, the same price as an iPhone.
 
However . . . if you do not like Apples pricing, then avoid Apple. This idea that Apple is bad simply because Apple is so expensive is in my opinion, silly. Some people toss that specific issue around as though it matters. It does not matter.

We have thousands of other choices out there besides Apple. I'll bet there are at least 200 cell phones out there and a thousand laptops and desktops. If you think Apple is too costly, buy something else.

And let me tell you, when you create a company that is treated like Gods on High, you achieve what most corporations will never achieve. Apple did it and some people hate Apple because of it.
and plus the iphone isnt anything special you cant hardly customize it the way you can an android phone
Some people think Android is God, and everything else is overpriced crap. Plenty of android phones that cost you more than an iPhone. I think you can buy a new iPhone for fifty bucks, can't you?

Consider Virgin Mobile's newest entry: The Triumph. It is three hundred dollars, the same price as an iPhone.


Im just saying they are overpriced I dont buy apple products mainly for that reason, and the other main reason I dont care much for apple is they get over hyped, and they are a bunch of *****s have you not seen in the news where apple is sueing HTC Samsung and Motorola over patents, and most of the things they are saying that they violated are such tiny things that pretty much every phone needs to be a phone, and the main reason they are sueing this much is because they are trying to stall people from buying their new phones and trying to get the people to wait for the new iphone 5 to come out and hope that people will buy it, when apple and thier iphone doesnt really have that much inginuity, they barely add anything to it
 
Im just saying they are overpriced I dont buy apple products mainly for that reason, and the other main reason I dont care much for apple is they get over hyped, and they are a bunch of *****s have you not seen in the news where apple is sueing HTC Samsung and Motorola over patents, and most of the things they are saying that they violated are such tiny things that pretty much every phone needs to be a phone, and the main reason they are sueing this much is because they are trying to stall people from buying their new phones and trying to get the people to wait for the new iphone 5 to come out and hope that people will buy it, when apple and thier iphone doesnt really have that much inginuity, they barely add anything to it

So Apple is protecting their rights. what is the issue, specifically? Please tell us/me why Apple should NOT protect their patents. I seriously doubt you understand these lawsuits; not an insult, patent law is difficult to understand sans a law degree.

So to be fair and avoid bad feelings, clarify. Give me some specifics and tell me why Apple should not protect what is theirs.
 
You do not know what you are talking about. They are well designed and built and they do what they are supposed to do. They might be costly, but they are not the most expensive products on the tech block. Do not like them, avoid them.

Why do you say they are garbage? Cite a few examples please.

Bob

Trust me I know more than you. They are overpriced pieces of junk that are designed for people who could not figure out how to use Windows. But that isn't an insult because Windows isn't easy to figure out.
 
ok well here for example apple is suing samsung on patent number D677 and D790 because the samsung galaxy s 4g is to much alike in size and style of phone, when really they are both just candy bar style phones, Apple sues Samsung for 'copying' the iPhone and iPad -- Engadget

Apple Sues Samsung, Saying Galaxy Phones and Tablets Too Close To iPad and iPhone Design - Ina Fried - Mobile - AllThingsD there is another link about why they are suing samsung and if you read they are just suing to try and get rid of competition because here soon apple isnt going to be able to compete with android for multiple reasons but one main reason and that is because there are more companies making phones that use android os while adding their own things to make them different, and only one company that makes iphone and eventually apple will run out of ideas and not be able to make things to improve, when all google and android have to do is say samsung make us a very nice phone with the best screen ever because the super amoled is the best possible screen at the moment, and google can say hey motorola lets make a really good business phone just some examples, apple is mainly just stalling till ios 5 and iphone 5 comes out so they dont loose as many customers, and since they cant compete with the competition they are trying to get rid of it
 
One thing about Apple is that they seem to let the products sell themselves. When I went to the Apple store to check out the iPad 2, I could walk in and try one out. I played around with it, went to various web sites I frequent to see how it performs viewing the content. I am quite impressed with the iPad 2's browsing capabilities even without full Flash support. I could do the same thing with their iPhone or Mac's.

Now, I go to other stores that sell phones and other products and all I see are fake phones with the home screen pasted on. I never see an iPhone like that ever. Since those phones are fake, I can't give it a test drive. The worse is Windows Phones. I see one on display and saw the display move, so I thought I'd give it a try. It turns out that it was playing a demo and I could not actually use it.

I wish more other manufacturers would provide working demos of their products, so I can actually try them out. Sometimes, they have working demos. A few android phones had a working demo model that I tried out. I eventually got one. I got a chance to try out the Playbook as well and was most impressed with its Flash support (although not impressed when the browser crashed).

If you have a good product that provides a good user experience and you let people try it out, it should sell well. For such a complex device as a smart phone or tablet, I like to try it out before purchasing one. I got burned with my first smartphone and don't want to make such an expensive mistake again.
 
eventually apple will run out of ideas and not be able to make things to improve,
, apple is mainly just stalling till ios 5 and iphone 5 comes out so they dont loose as many customers, and since they cant compete with the competition they are trying to get rid of it

:) Well ,the common consumers are least (according to me )bothered about law suits and patent laws .It just another news for them.To tell you the truth I wouldn't think of law suits when buying a phone.
If iphone 5 is revolutionary in almost all senses ,then they will hold their standard
If Android 2.4(4) however changes the way of phones , Androids will become the standard to gauge .
On other hand apple can totally create a new idevice and create another market of devices.
The thing is when it comes to introduction of a market of a particular device ,apple rules the roost.

I dont see a new device/product being introduced which will change the market or outlook, with the advent of IceCream Sandwich or by Google as a whole .

I may be wrong since I am a bad soothsayer :)
 
I did a little looking around regarding Apple's patents and found this:

United States Patent: 7966578

and this:

Apple granted patent for using finger gestures on touch screens | BroadbandExpert

They basically patented a multi-function, portable device that has a touch screen, where the user uses finger gesters to control it and it displays web pages. I didn't read through the whole thing, but I skimmed through and found other features like GPS that is common amongst smartphones. These patents pretty much covers all smartphones and tablets and pretty much touch screen netbooks and notebook PC's.

Back in the late 90's, they got a huge payout from Microsoft because of patents. It looks like they are trying to get another huge payout from practically every smartphone and tablet manufacturer now. In the end, the winner will be the lawyers.
 
Just to clarify... I'm a guy. lol Does my avatar really throw people off that much? :p

Back on topic: I forgot to include the customer support. Apple has fantastic customer support when it comes to repairs and such. I had a MacBook Pro sent and returned within 4 days (gave to employee on a Friday and received it back Tuesday). It wasn't a major repair (replacement trackpad) but still... that's incredibly fast. Apple always does express shipping so you're not just waiting for it to ship there and back. I tried to get s repair done with Samsung and they gave me a grounds shipping label and it took 2 weeks total. Huge difference. An added benefit is that you can have the computer shipped back to the local Apple Store where you sent it and have it inspected right there to see if the problem is resolved. Basically, Apple beats everyone else in terms of warranty-
covered service.

Def agree! I had a corrupt hardrive on my 13'' mbp....and had it back in three days! My 2 year old3rd gen ipod touch had a cracked screen from me dropping it...replaced it same day without even asking what happened to it...They just took care of me which was great....I dont dislike apple at all..Its just that their phone is not what I needed out of a smartphone. Im sure its a nice phone but Ill take my DX anyday of the week!
 
the law suites are part of the mind game apple does to the mainstream public...

they (general public) hear it happening.. but dont know the details or why...

they think... apple is trying to keep their magic safe from copy cats.
they (general public) think...my iphone is so awesome! or I need to get an iphone.
 
One thing about Apple is that they seem to let the products sell themselves. When I went to the Apple store to check out the iPad 2, I could walk in and try one out. I played around with it, went to various web sites I frequent to see how it performs viewing the content. I am quite impressed with the iPad 2's browsing capabilities even without full Flash support. I could do the same thing with their iPhone or Mac's.

Now, I go to other stores that sell phones and other products and all I see are fake phones with the home screen pasted on. I never see an iPhone like that ever. Since those phones are fake, I can't give it a test drive.

In many stores, one can't actually get one's hands on a real phone until one has paid money and signed the contract, then they'll go to the stock-room and get the real one.

The worse is Windows Phones. I see one on display and saw the display move, so I thought I'd give it a try. It turns out that it was playing a demo and I could not actually use it.

It's so often the same when buying a PC. The demonstration ones are locked down playing a promotional video or they're non-functioning dummies, like with the fake phones. So one can't actually see what they're like to use, until one has actually paid money and bought the things.

We wouldn't buy clothes this way...."Sorry mate, you can't try the suit on until you've bought it.".... Yet electronics and phone retailers seem happy to do this, except for Apple.

This is one reason why Apple are so successful at selling products, where others have so often failed.
 
Hey since we're throwing out analogies using movies and tv shows...let me throw one out there.

Apple= The Matrix (or creator):mad:
Iphone/Ipad= Agents trying to keep everyone in line :cool::cool:
Google= Morpheus (still searching for Neo to bring down the matrix):eek:
Iphone/Ipad users- Are the batteries for the machines :confused::confused::confused::confused:
Android Users- Are trying to unplug those Iphone/Ipad users from the matrix but alas some of them are not ready. :(

So many potentials for the "chosen one" but none have been able to fulfill it's destiny. I hope the SGSII or the Bionic are the chosen one.

Like my use of emoticons for the characters? :p

ok this is too funny!
 
Trust me I know more than you. They are overpriced pieces of junk that are designed for people who could not figure out how to use Windows. But that isn't an insult because Windows isn't easy to figure out.

OK, you know more than I know. Perhaps you do, I can't be sure. Having used "computers" in one form or another since 1974 or so, I think I have picked up a few credit points for my longevity and from dealing with systems that were not really computers as we know them today.

I built DOS systems for our Modem Test lines and later, Windows 3.1/Windows for Workgroups boxes as the technology became available and cheaper. I do not think I am a dummy, so give a little credit, please.

Have you ever tried to troubleshoot and repair a memory core expansion board? That is to say, a board with row after row of ferrite cores all tied together with wire giving you a few K of memory for thousands of dollars?

Apple is not easy any more than Windows is hard. And vicey versey. And many people that hate both and go Ubuntu, likely, are lost and will not admit it is hard; if they went UNIX, they would be screwed. And yes, I worked with UNIX while running HP In-Circuit Testers. Modifying BT Basic.

When I bought an early color Macbook, I was productive out of the box. ditto Windows and before that, DOS in an 8088 system and no HDD. Some problems with both and usually, quite easily solved. Like Apple Extensions (?) conflicts.

My iPod was up and running immediately, as was my iPad and Android phone. I had questions about both and any issues I had I could solve.

If you think Apple products are designed for idiots, fools, and dummies, incapable of using Windows, fine. Just remember, regardless of the system, there are peole with problems. Just ask Mr. Google.

Bob
"It is a poor musician that blames his instrument"
 
I did a little looking around regarding Apple's patents and found this:

United States Patent: 7966578

and this:

Apple granted patent for using finger gestures on touch screens | BroadbandExpert

They basically patented a multi-function, portable device that has a touch screen, where the user uses finger gesters to control it and it displays web pages. I didn't read through the whole thing, but I skimmed through and found other features like GPS that is common amongst smartphones. These patents pretty much covers all smartphones and tablets and pretty much touch screen netbooks and notebook PC's.

Back in the late 90's, they got a huge payout from Microsoft because of patents. It looks like they are trying to get another huge payout from practically every smartphone and tablet manufacturer now. In the end, the winner will be the lawyers.

You just largely described The Palm Pilot, "a multi-function, portable device that has a touch screen, where the user uses finger gesters to control it and it displays web pages." One version was wireless and could access the web in moderation. No phone, however. But email, and web applications aplenty.

We did get sued by The Pilot Pen People for using the name 'Pilot.' Apple and Palm are no strangers to the Federal Court, by the way.

If a company has a patent on something, it is up to them to protect it. And that is what Apple does. To suggest that a patent is unfair is one thing; to assume it infringes is another. Patents are not handed out like gumballs; prior works are often cited in a patent. Like the one you posted that cites "Method and apparatus of view window scrolling."

OT, but did you know if you have a copyright and you fail to protect it, you can loose your rights?

Patents are not something I expect most people to understand. They are difficult to obtain, they require research, lots of money, and in the end, they must be protected. That means courtroom drama and costly lawyers and possible out of court settlements.

I am not a lawyer, but I had to research patents for a book project for Polaroid. Got hooked on patent research, and trust me, it is a difficult thing to plough through. In looking for 3D printing patents, I went back to Polaroid and Edwin Lands earliest/first patents.

To be fair, some patents should not have been granted and this is not just my opinion. Just remember, patents are covered in our founding documents.
 
Patents are not handed out like gumballs; prior works are often cited in a patent.


From where I sit it almost looks like they are handed out regardless and the buck is passed onto the legal system to do what the patent examiners should have done to start with.

That is an opinion :D
 
ok well here for example apple is suing samsung on patent number D677 and D790 because the samsung galaxy s 4g is to much alike in size and style of phone, when really they are both just candy bar style phones, Apple sues Samsung for 'copying' the iPhone and iPad -- Engadget

Apple Sues Samsung, Saying Galaxy Phones and Tablets Too Close To iPad and iPhone Design - Ina Fried - Mobile - AllThingsD there is another link about why they are suing samsung and if you read they are just suing to try and get rid of competition because here soon apple isnt going to be able to compete with android for multiple reasons but one main reason and that is because there are more companies making phones that use android os while adding their own things to make them different, and only one company that makes iphone and eventually apple will run out of ideas and not be able to make things to improve, when all google and android have to do is say samsung make us a very nice phone with the best screen ever because the super amoled is the best possible screen at the moment, and google can say hey motorola lets make a really good business phone just some examples, apple is mainly just stalling till ios 5 and iphone 5 comes out so they dont loose as many customers, and since they cant compete with the competition they are trying to get rid of it

Do you know why in most cases, patents are considered public information? Patents are often greatly detailed to a point where you can actually build the device following a set of "simple" instructions, procedures, and methods.

I made some polarizers by following the step-by-step instructions in Land's original patents, for example.

I would never bring a product to market without a patent and copious amounts of research to see what I actually "stole" from some person that had the idea decades ago. Some things look silly and some look like infringement to most people.

Did you know you are allowed to take ideas and existing patents; make changes (within reason) and market the new product? The problem is quite often, you end up in court. But you can sue anyone for almost anything, these days.

An often cited example is the hairpin. Originally straight, someone took the idea and added ripples to grasp the hair better. Or so the story goes.

By the way, the historical record disproves the idea that Apple will run out of ideas. Never sell Apple short. And do not hold android blameless for "stealing." Lots of things touted as new are old had and done before.

By the way, what about Android? They are pretty much the same basic devices with very little new that has not been thought of before. Form and function differences, faster processors, more memory, better screens, 4G, tethering, do not count. The basic Android phones do not change much past minor things that are inevitable.

Except perhaps the EVO 3D efforts to bring something new to the phone world. A 3D phone, who would have thought. Even though the technology is decades old and covered by prior work going back many decades, some think it is a new idea.
 
From where I sit it almost looks like they are handed out regardless and the buck is passed onto the legal system to do what the patent examiners should have done to start with.

That is an opinion :D

It is a good opinion at that. You are not the only one that wants silly patents invalidated and tossed. Many patent attorneys feel the same way. But it is very complicated and sadly, often requires a court decision.

As an aside, I am trying to find a new logo and the last thing I will do is use clip art from the web. I fear a challenge because there is no reliable way to tell if the clip art I find is legal due to so many sites that simply post things they are not allowed to post; offering for sale things they have no right to sell.

We can only hope the courts are fair.

Consider this trademark issue: "Harley-Davidson's most recent endeavor to secure trademark protection is not only its most unconventional, it is also arguably, the most unusual and provocative trademark application ever filed with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (PTO). On February 1, 1994, Harley filed a registration for a trademark, then already in use, with the following description: "THE MARK CONSISTS OF THE EXHAUST SOUND OF APPLICANT'S MOTORCYCLES, PRODUCED BY V-TWIN, COMMON CRANKPIN MOTORCYCLE ENGINES WHEN THE GOODS ARE IN USE." Put simply, Harley was attempting to trademark the sound of its motorcycles; which, of course, begs the question, can a manufacturer trademark the exhaust roar of its motor vehicle?"

Sounds odd and silly, but the sound trademark is tied to other things like the design of the engine and its crankpin. Quoting their lawyer, "These details are critical because the "unique" Harley-Davidson sound owes its existence to the common crankpin V-Twin engine design. Joseph Bonk, Harley's trademark attorney, has noted that the design results in a syncopated, uneven idle which, when simulated verbally, sounds like "potato-potato-potato."

So it is possible that a Japanese bike that sounds like a Harley could be in violation of existing patents. For casual observers, protecting the sound is silly, but it is tied to other things like engine designs and associated patents.

NBC protected three musical notes, so there is precedent for this kind of protection.

Consider the act of selling anything on the web. There is no shortage of patents that cover that activity. Amazon, eBay, and others would never tolerate being told to cease and desist their e-commerce activities.

For the record, I choose to ignore these patents and associated claims. But do I have that "right?" Not sure. I seriously doubt the vast numbers of web users are aware that their activities might be in violation. The courts, if it went that far, would likely agree with me.

Or not, perhaps.
 
The problems people have with Apple are all centered around their sheer arrogance, their lies and their legions of rabid fanboys who mindlessly defend everything the company does. Every company in the world would kill to do what Apple has done.

Apple has sold it's legions of followers on the idea that you pay MORE for an Apple product than you will for something comparable and that this is a GOOD thing. For what you pay for a Mac desktop, you can get a comparable desktop for nearly half the price. Buy Apple has convinced it's followers that paying twice the price for the same thing is a GOOD thing and proves that it's a better product. It completely defies all logic, but this is what customer's want.

Apple has sold people on the mystique and the myth that they have invented just about everything you see on a PC today and that their products are the cream of the crop of the PC world. Even if this were true, this arrogance ticks off a lot of people. As we all know, none of this is true so Apple's insistence that it's true and it's arrogant claims that it is better than everyone because it's true ticks even more people off.

You add on all of this Apple's constant claims that they're inventing something new with every product when it's just not true tick even more people off. Look at the smart cover thing? Apple did not invent the smart cover. It's not even a new concept. Yet they told the world that it was "new" and "magical" and the world sat back and ate it up.

Apple is like the d------bag you work with who takes credit for everyone's projects. Then the boss rewards him and tells you to work harder. That is why people hate Apple.
 
If a company has a patent on something, it is up to them to protect it. And that is what Apple does. To suggest that a patent is unfair is one thing; to assume it infringes is another. Patents are not handed out like gumballs; prior works are often cited in a patent. Like the one you posted that cites "Method and apparatus of view window scrolling."

OT, but did you know if you have a copyright and you fail to protect it, you can loose your rights?

Patents are not something I expect most people to understand. They are difficult to obtain, they require research, lots of money, and in the end, they must be protected. That means courtroom drama and costly lawyers and possible out of court settlements.

Do you know why in most cases, patents are considered public information? Patents are often greatly detailed to a point where you can actually build the device following a set of "simple" instructions, procedures, and methods.

I made some polarizers by following the step-by-step instructions in Land's original patents, for example.

I would never bring a product to market without a patent and copious amounts of research to see what I actually "stole" from some person that had the idea decades ago. Some things look silly and some look like infringement to most people.

Did you know you are allowed to take ideas and existing patents; make changes (within reason) and market the new product? The problem is quite often, you end up in court. But you can sue anyone for almost anything, these days.

That's very good information about patents. I think most people understand the general idea for patents, but not necessarily the grizzly details. If you spent a lot of time and effort to come up with a product, you should be able to benefit from that time and effort without someone else benefitting instead from all your time and effort.

In one of my Math classes in university, we learned about an algorithm for min/maxing linear equations. The professor mentioned a mathemetician who came up with a more efficient algorithm. Unfortunately, you cannot patent an algorithm. I think he worked at some company who would sell you some computer if you need to do the calculation. They can patent the computer. It's been decades, so I cannot remember the exact details.

I guess patent lawyers know better what can be patented, what must be patented, how to do it and how to protect it. For most people, it may seem some patents don't sound valid since it may be for something that seems rather general or fairly common.

I read an article recently about the Apple vs. HTC law suit this month. I cannot seem to find it. Anyway, the article talked about one of the filings. It seems that Apple patented the method of highlighting URL's and phone numbers in a message and allows the user to select the URL and bring up the web browser or select the phone number to instantly make the call. This sounds rather generic. Anyone can parse a message for some pattern and have it launch an appropriate app if selected. I'd appreciate it if someone can verify if this is in fact true. This article was the only one I saw where they talked more specifically about the patent instead of some general statement saying it covers all Android phones.
 
You add on all of this Apple's constant claims that they're inventing something new with every product when it's just not true tick even more people off. Look at the smart cover thing? Apple did not invent the smart cover. It's not even a new concept. Yet they told the world that it was "new" and "magical" and the world sat back and ate it up.

So who invented the iPad Smart Cover? And I AM asking, I do not really know. If it was an Apple engineer, "Apple" did not invent it; likely licensed or assigned by the inventor to Apple. If this is the case, it is Apple's and it was invented by Apple.

I ignored the Apple Smart Cover until I discovered it was a tad bit more than a first glance indicates. It quickly snaps to the iPad and it shuts off the iPad when closed;it is magnetized, or uses the powers of Narnia or something like that.

I did find this comment, "Force sensors, solar grids, lighting effects, illuminated bezels, and even video conferencing are among the myriad uses the patent discusses for various smart covers. Additionally the patent discusses adding a physical keyboard and game pad smart cover to touch screen devices."

So apparently, it might be more than just a simple overprices hunk of polymers and magnets.

I was quite amazed at the device after giving it another look. Do you know if Apple did not invent it, who did? Perhaps not an idea that Apple originated, bit rather, bought from another developer. If that is the case, it is Apple's property.
 
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