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If Sprint released the Evo3D and SGS2 and Photon on the same day which would you pick?

Which phone if all 3 on the same day ?

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EarlyMon said:
I think the tech attorneys use a dartboard to decide those things. My favorite was the one in 2009 where A+B were suing C while B+C were suing A while A+C were suing B. (over display technology claims, all applying to the new crop of products) I am not making that up. I think they get money from time to time (dunno), but if anything, it gives them bargaining leverage (they all cross-contract with each other) and it certainly gives them something to publicize.

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OK - 3dEvo vs. Samsung? HTC.

I own Sammy TVs and some of their other stuff (way big fan of that stuff), but after my Moment experiences, I'm too gunshy to be trapped by a Sammy phone again. Maybe not entirely reasonable, but after seeing people wait for Froyo with their Epics on Sprint, Samsung is going to have to better this time to convince me to even look at them next time.

I foresee another round of US variants on the SGS2 with a repeat of last year's debacles while the rest of world just gets to be happy with updates and benefits from SGS2 standardization.

Seems the 3dEvo's first target was Sprint/CDMA - good enough for me, and it'll be a big step up from my Evo.

In fact, for the reasons stated, if there were no 3dEvo and I could only choose the Sammy, I'd stick with my Evo until I saw my concerns addressed this go round before I'd seriously look at them.

I really want dual-core and nifty new features, but I don't absolutely need dual-core and nifty new features.

Number One thing impressing me on the SGS2 is its blogged battery life - that's what I'd expect of a good 2-core.
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God**** you have crystallised my thoughts EXACTLY
 
you2 said:
I'm amazed at the folks what would pick a pone that is 2% faster that has a dis functional antenna and drops calls every 5 seconds and you can't understand a word the person you are talking to because of the distortion in the speaker. But I suppose my priorities are different than the average person.
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I completely understand that, and as far as antenna/service goes, I agree. But a lot of people (myself included) don't really talk all that much on their phones (might be silly, but I've always hated talking on phones), so call clarity isn't such an important feature. My priorities in a phone are: email, calendar, texting, web browsing, pictures, gaming, movies/tv shows, and music (in that order). While making the list, I thought it was complete without even including phone calls :-p So I guess that shows something about where my priorities are. Either way, I want it to do it everything instantly and on a screen with such high resolution that I can't notice any pixelation. This means fast processor and high-res screen. The Evo 3D fits those needs well, so I'm pretty set on getting it :-)
 
Good question OP...

Will the SGII be Wimax?...if not, Evo3D
Battery life?...
Call quality?...
Usability in daylight?...

Too many variables at the moment. After having gone through the Droid Inc battery fiasco when initially released. I'd rather have a phone with amazing battery life out of the box without reverting to extended batteries, kernels, and ROMs. The specs are a moot point, both are amazing steps in the right direction.
 
you2 said:
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I'm amazed at the folks what would pick a pone that is 2% faster ...
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I agree if preliminary reviews showed 2% faster. However, they are showing the S II as 30%-50% faster (in Quadrant). Yes, it's possible the benchmarks are missing something due to the new processors, but I have no idea where you got the 2% from.

I think Qualcomm was ahead of the game with the 8650 for the Evo 4G. But I think with the Scorpian (A8 base modified) they are behind the A9 (e.g. Samsung Exynos 4210). Qualcomm is pushing their ARM license for all they can get out of it. I think Qualcomm will leapfrog the competition with their Krait architecture early next year. It will blow the A9 away and possibly better then the A15.

Right now, we are at the end of the lifecycle for Qualcomm "A8" based processors. At this point, personally, I will either pick up the S II if it comes out by June/July, otherwise I will wait until 2012 for the next gen. Now if someone wants 3D functionality, then the Evo 3D is the way to go.
 
GaryColeman said:
I agree if preliminary reviews showed 2% faster. However, they are showing the S II as 30%-50% faster (in Quadrant).
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I can show you a 50+% increase on quadrant on the SAME phone.

Benchmarks (quadrant in particular) seem to provide little value except fuel these "phone x is so much better than phone y because the number is bigger" arguments.
 
So long as it's not free quadrant with just a total. The quadrants I've seen on the SGS2 are showing a big increase with cpu and then a good increase on the gpu and aren't lopsided by io tricks.

I strongly feel that the benchmark is that until we know what benchmark does what, helpless users are stuck not knowing who to believe or what to trust.

Users want and need easy access to processor profile info when that's part of their informed purchasing decision - but profiling processors isn't an easy deal.

If you're in the "winning" camp and say that, most people seem to dismiss it as unimportant, and if you're in the "losing" camp and say that, many people seem to dismiss it as sour grapes. So clarifying the trust issues with blog reports on benchmarks is difficult at best.

I trust more the user reports on impressions of responsiveness and battery life than anything, but that's just my personal opinion. Probably because I know that the end user software they provide (like browsers, media players) can make or break any hardware regardless of benchmarks.

IOW - benchmarks, if done right and correlated properly, show what hardware CAN do.

But the delivered software system will dictate what that hardware WILL do.
 
novox77 said:
I can show you a 50+% increase on quadrant on the SAME phone.
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Unless that "same" phone is a stock Evo 3D or S II, then I don't care. I agree the raw benchmarks aren't the story. I want to see some side by side comparisons, which should be coming out shortly. Both are good phones.
 
I get kind of tired of the idea one phone is better than another anyway. If you're happy with it and it works for you; Then why does it bother you if somebody else likes another product more?

I think the Evo3D is a fantastic looking phone. Anyone should be proud to own one. The SGII is also looking very impressive. It's just a matter of personal preference in my opinion. :o
 
ArmageddonX said:
I get kind of tired of the idea one phone is better than another anyway. If you're happy with it and it works for you; Then why does it bother you if somebody else likes another product more?

I think the Evo3D is a fantastic looking phone. Anyone should be proud to own one. The SGII is also looking very impressive. It's just a matter of personal preference in my opinion. :o
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This all over the place. I prefer Sense over Touchwiz and HTC over Samsung, but that is me. Others can choose for themselves, but I prefer the E3D.
 
I'm getting the Evo because I prefer HTC build quality, and because the screen on the SGS2 looks bright, sure, but the colors look terribly oversaturated, I don't know why people go gaga over it. I also like the overall look of the Evo, the dedicated shutter button, the notification light, and the Sense UI, although I'll probably flash CM7 on to it when it becomes available.

I also don't care about the marginal performance difference between them, I'll lose a couple of FPS, big whoop. It's already a LOT more powerful than what most apps can take advantage of anyways.
 
Plattypus said:
I'm getting the Evo because I prefer HTC build quality, and because the screen on the SGS2 looks bright, sure, but the colors look terribly oversaturated, I don't know why people go gaga over it.
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Ever look at the pictures on postcards? Every pic is over-saturated. people like that, even when it's to the point of being way unnatural. That's my theory why the SAMOLED screens are so popular.
 
novox77 said:
Ever look at the pictures on postcards? Every pic is over-saturated. people like that, even when it's to the point of being way unnatural. That's my theory why the SAMOLED screens are so popular.
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Although I read that the SG2 has some preset options for messing with the colors, so I wonder if there is an option for a more 'realistic' look.

Aside from the oversaturation, the color reproduction on the screen is fantastic. I would love for a Qhd Super Amoled Plus with the ability to mess with saturation settings, but alas, one can only dream...

Although I'm very interested in the SG2, I'm still leaning towards the 3D, because if the SG1 is any indication, it'll be hard to find good roms on the phone running the latest Android version.

Even now, you'd still have trouble finding a single 2.3.3 rom on any of the SG1 US-variants without anything fundamentally broken, such as GPS or camera, whereas the EVO has several mostly fully functional 2.3.4 roms already out.

Personally I'd be very worried about owning an SG2, having ICS come out a few months later, and waiting for months upon months for an update to it, whereas for the EVO3D, within a month or so of the source released there would very likely be an almost completely functional rom available for it.
 
Android 17 said:
Aside from the oversaturation, the color reproduction on the screen is fantastic.
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By definition, if an image is over-saturated, its color reproduction is inaccurate. Kinda like saying, "aside from the mold, this bread tastes fantastic!" :) Extreme analogy, I know. But I fully recognize that rarely do you have a phone that gets color reproduction correct, so there's nothing "wrong" about being over-saturated. A lot of people interpret that saturation as vividness that makes the colors "pop." And I've been known to over-saturate my photos post-process as an artistic touch.

I haven't personally seen either screen (Evo 3D or SGS2), so I'm basing my comments off their predecessors. I know Samsung went in the right direction by eliminating PenTile on the SGS2, so I'm definitely curious to see if that change makes me accept SAMOLED more.
 
I went and looked at the Super AMOLED Plus on the Droid Charge. It was beautiful. I would be purchasing a Charge no questions asked if it wasn't woefully underpowered. The screen was absolutely the most beautiful screen I've ever seen on a phone.

I can see how some people wouldn't like the deep/bright colors on them though. Coming from a Palm Pre to looking at a Super AMOLED Plus is like going from black & white to color LOL... I think people like AMOLED because it's something non-Tech people look at and go; "Wow! Look at that!"

I thought the qHD-LCD screens were really nice. I could tell the resolution on the them was excellent. My "geek" side thinks logically the qHD-LCD is "better" because technically it has a higher resolution & is a better quality. However, my personal preference in the sAMOLED+.

I want to want not to want a sAMOLED+; but I do. :D
 
I love the true-blacks of the AMOLED screens (and the incredible contrast ratio it provides). Supposedly the latest iteration of the AMOLED screens in the SGS2 have more accurate colors then the previous versions, sounds like colors are still a bit over-saturated, i.e. it's supposed to be bit less cartoon'y than the screens in the SGS series.

Between the perfect blacks/high contrast ratio on the AMOLED vs. the qHD resolution of the Evo it's pretty much a wash for me. I'd be happy with either one.
 
EarlyMon said:
IOW - benchmarks, if done right and correlated properly, show what hardware CAN do.

But the delivered software system will dictate what that hardware WILL do.
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This is a good summary of my thoughts on benchmarks. They can provide insight into specific areas of strength/weakness on a phone but when it really comes down to it, how well it performs in real world use is the only good way to determine how all the parts work together.
 
The Moment launched with 1.5 when 1.6 was available for months. It took about 6 months and then they just skipped to 2.1. The Epic launched with 2.1 when 2.2 had been available for months. It has taken them...what....8-10 months to get 2.2 and 2.3 had already launched.

I don't care what the rumors are but I would not be surprised one little bit if the GS2 launched with 2.2. In fact I would expect it to. You cannot rebut this unless you have one in your hand!!!!

The Moment debacle left me never wanting to own a Samsung PRODUCT again. I will not buy their TVs. Samsung has an EXCELLENT marketing department. Their hardware sucks!!!...even their TVs.... Yes their TVs POP but that is all about the over saturation of colors someone was talking about. They pump you up with marketing and then turn up the saturation in the store and you are walking out with a Sammy TV....and very likely you are happy with your purchase unless you are as fanatical about your TVs as you are about your phone. If anyone doubts Sammy's marketing strategies, may I refer you to the Instinct. What a raging piece of crap that phone was. ANd they openly marketed it as "The Iphone killer"!!!! Holy cow, it wasn't even close to being close but they sold a shitload of phones and that is all that matters.

Anyway, I feel the tug of their marketing once again. The GS2 looks like an awesome device....ON PAPER!!!! I know in my heart of hearts that if I allow them to fool me a third time(Instinct,Moment,GS2), that I will regret it. I truly believe that HTC wants their customers to be happy. I don't get that feeling from Sammy. Do you remember the fixes they pushed out almost immediately on the EVO??? That would have taken months for Sammy to do. So you end up with a half functioning phone. That is what happened on the Moment...that is what happened on the Epic. I just won't allow myself to go down that road again....however tempting it may be...

Cliff's notes:
Sony builds better TVs and has better support
HTC builds better phones and has better support
SAMSUNG SUCKS!!!
 
flyjbaker said:
The Moment launched with 1.5 when 1.6 was available for months. It took about 6 months and then they just skipped to 2.1. The Epic launched with 2.1 when 2.2 had been available for months. It has taken them...what....8-10 months to get 2.2 and 2.3 had already launched.

I don't care what the rumors are but I would not be surprised one little bit if the GS2 launched with 2.2. In fact I would expect it to. You cannot rebut this unless you have one in your hand!!!!

The Moment debacle left me never wanting to own a Samsung PRODUCT again. I will not buy their TVs. Samsung has an EXCELLENT marketing department. Their hardware sucks!!!...even their TVs.... Yes their TVs POP but that is all about the over saturation of colors someone was talking about. They pump you up with marketing and then turn up the saturation in the store and you are walking out with a Sammy TV....and very likely you are happy with your purchase unless you are as fanatical about your TVs as you are about your phone. If anyone doubts Sammy's marketing strategies, may I refer you to the Instinct. What a raging piece of crap that phone was. ANd they openly marketed it as "The Iphone killer"!!!! Holy cow, it wasn't even close to being close but they sold a shitload of phones and that is all that matters.

Anyway, I feel the tug of their marketing once again. The GS2 looks like an awesome device....ON PAPER!!!! I know in my heart of hearts that if I allow them to fool me a third time(Instinct,Moment,GS2), that I will regret it. I truly believe that HTC wants their customers to be happy. I don't get that feeling from Sammy. Do you remember the fixes they pushed out almost immediately on the EVO??? That would have taken months for Sammy to do. So you end up with a half functioning phone. That is what happened on the Moment...that is what happened on the Epic. I just won't allow myself to go down that road again....however tempting it may be...

Cliff's notes:
Sony builds better TVs and has better support
HTC builds better phones and has better support
SAMSUNG SUCKS!!!
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Why would it launch with 2.2 when the UK Version launched with 2.3.3 and its the same phone, that's a stupid comment. The Epic didn't have a Official FroYo until late but it did have leaked FroYo since November or December. Samsung's support does suck but they still deliver with their devices, especially hardware. How about you read some reviews on the phone before you make statements about it.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
 
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