frankkduf2
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Finaly if i just unroot to update and then re-root the device would that work? If the answer is yes how to unroot, if it wont work then wtf!?
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Finaly if i just unroot to update and then re-root the device would that work? If the answer is yes how to unroot, if it wont work then wtf!?
Whether you can get OTA updates while rooted depends entirely on what the installer does for a sanity check before starting.
There is no "yes you can/no you can't" answer.
The installer is going to run through a set of checks to ensure your system is appropriate to update. It's going to make sure you're on a correct version, it's going to check for the existence of system files, it may verify that the recovery is stock or it may not.
It may not check anything that the superuser binaries affect.
It may, however, hash the entire /system/app directory to check if it's stock. It may check the /system/etc to make sure the install-recovery.sh file is there. Heck, it may specifically query to find out if you have "su" and "Superuser.apk" installed. If I were a programmer, I probably would - I don't want to install updates on a system where unknown modifications have been made.
All of those things would cause an update to fail, and all of these things could change from upgrade to upgrade. You should always assume that modifying your device at the system level (which rooting does) may take you off the upgrade path. If you don't know how to deal with that, you should probably do a little more reading before you root.
As much as I would like the dev to do this as a rooter. From what I have seen the updates usually check for the md5 of some system apps.
I think you may have missed my point
What the updater checks for can change at any time. Thus, the only thing we can say is, "under a very specific set of circumstances (e.g. 'rooted with no modifications', or 'rooted with CWM installed'), one very specific update works."
The question regularly gets posted, "if I root, will I be able to get updates?" People always answer it with some definitive answer, when there is no definitive answer. Will one particular update work within some small subset of rooted systems? That can be answered.
You should still get the OTA but it will unroot your phone, it shouldn't lock the bootloader again however.
Ok very informative information here.
If I unlocked bootloader, Rooted w/ no custom ROM but removed the google search bar w/ that zip file, and have clockwork installed.
Update or no Update?
If I won't get the update, can I use this method to go back? > http://androidforums.com/galaxy-nex...-re-lock-bootloader-return-factory-state.html
Are we sure about that yet? I know that Chainz has already updated the binaries for SU to work with 4.0.3... I wouldn't think the OTA would effect the SU app if the binaries are working on the OTA.
Remember rooting this phone is very different from others, you do not need to use any kind of exploit like you do on other phones to attain root. All you need to do is push the SU app to the phone...
if we were to root without CWM then get the update (assuming you can) causing you to lose root would your phone be wiped again when you root after the update or is that just something you have to go through during the original process where you're having to unlock the bootloader, too?
I'd rather have the option for OTA updates without even having to worry about following to see when a flashable version is out but I'm not interested in having to repopulate the phone every time one comes down and I have to re-root.
Just an FYI: I got my phone Monday and unlocked bootloader and rooted with fastboot before I even activated it. As soon as I did activate it, 4.0.2 was pushed and it installed flawlessly. I did lose root, but was able to reinstall it within a few seconds.
In summary, if you are reading this and want the benefits of being rooted like titanium and other root only apps and don't care about romming you might just want to do fastboot and not clockwork recovery so you can recieve OTAs.
You may also need all the system apps in place for it to install as well.
Pretty sure you can just get someone to send you their verizon files and reinstall them.Ugh I forgot about that and deleted all the verizon crap...I guess its custom roms for me(was planning on staying stock for a while)
Okay ? method do you use to root without installing CWM?
SA, thanks for doing the research for this, I remember how much your posts helped in the DroidX forums, glad you keep taking the same upgrade paths that I do!Hey guys, I know I saw this thread a few days ago, but never posted and lost a little track of it...
How about this: I'll restore my phone back to 4.0.1 a few times and see how the phone behaves to the 4.0.2 OTA with regard to:
1) installing ClockworkMod
2) rooting (installing the su and Superuser.apk binaries)
That should clear up what actually works (or doesn't work).
I won't get to this tonight, but I might get to it tomorrow, etc.
Cheers!