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IOS type notifications

vegas757

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I have searched high and low but cannot find an answer or reason.
I'm currently an iphone 5s user. What I want is to be able to use a pattern/password lock on an android phone (G5 or Htc One ) and have the screen (screen light up) and show who any text is from, who's call I missed, who an email is from, etc. Like my current iphone does. My understanding is if I use a pattern/pin/passwod lock, I will hear the text alert, etc., but will have to "unlock" the phone to actually see who the text, etc. is from. The only other option is to not use a pattern/pin/password. This way I will get onscreen notifications. I need my phone secured and lock. Now many will say then why would you want the screen to display a text, email, etc. if I want it locked. I only want to be able to see who the text, email, etc is from. Nothing else. That way if need be, I can decide whether I want to read it now or later. What I don't want is to have to always unlock my phone to see who texted, etc. Is this not possible with android? Thanks
 
Some other launcher may have this, but it defeats the purpose of locking your phone so it isn't a priority. I think TouchWiz and other Skins obscure that info by design when the phone locks.
 
Some phones have lock screen options where you can see that info. If not some 3rd party apps will do it for you!
 
You could also install a different lockscreen if you're not happy with the stock one. This is Android not iOS. :)
 
Samsung's TouchWiz displays text messages on your screen even though your screen is locked. It will only work with text messages when you are using Samsung's stock Message app. I use Hangouts, so it doesn't do that.
 
To be honest, I do prefer notification badges over Android's cluttered status bar. The way icons pop up there en masse ruins my OCD. Every half hour i find ten Facebook icons hogging space where only vital system information should be displayed. I don't know what idiot at Google decided that filling up the status bar with redundant icons was better than individual counters on the app icon but i do hope he or she is fired. I hope Android L has a better notification system.

Many third party launchers (Nova Prime) offer badges but sadly do nothing to clean the status bar up. The icons still have to clutter it up or the badges cease to appear
 
To be honest, I do prefer notification badges over Android's cluttered status bar. The way icons pop up there en masse ruins my OCD. Every half hour i find ten Facebook icons hogging space where only vital system information should be displayed. I don't know what idiot at Google decided that filling up the status bar with redundant icons was better than individual counters on the app icon but i do hope he or she is fired. I hope Android L has a better notification system.

Many third party launchers (Nova Prime) offer badges but sadly do nothing to clean the status bar up. The icons still have to clutter it up or the badges cease to appear

TouchWiz has Notification Badges that 3rd party applications can implement, built in. Many Developers (Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest, and quite a few others) have built support in their apps for them, and they work well.

They seem to be the only major player doing it, and it's stupid that Google hasn't built in support for this into the Base Android distribution. It is, IMO, very important to be able to look at the home screen and know when something new is there.

The notification Shade does need a clean-up. Android L revamps the look, but sadly "Actionable" notifications will still be worthless once you have more than one notification from the same app, due to the way it displays information and doesn't expand the notifications in any decent manner. If you get 5 new emails you won't be "acting" on any of them from the Notification bar, but you can on iOS, for example; since it keeps each notification separate and independent from the others - even if from the same app.

This is most notable in email and messaging apps, but happens in virtually everything.

ONE Notification is actionable, TWO or MOR notifications and it's just "expandable."
 
TouchWiz has Notification Badges that 3rd party applications can implement, built in. Many Developers (Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest, and quite a few others) have built support in their apps for them, and they work well.

They seem to be the only major player doing it, and it's stupid that Google hasn't built in support for this into the Base Android distribution. It is, IMO, very important to be able to look at the home screen and know when something new is there.

The notification Shade does need a clean-up. Android L revamps the look, but sadly "Actionable" notifications will still be worthless once you have more than one notification from the same app, due to the way it displays information and doesn't expand the notifications in any decent manner. If you get 5 new emails you won't be "acting" on any of them from the Notification bar, but you can on iOS, for example; since it keeps each notification separate and independent from the others - even if from the same app.

This is most notable in email and messaging apps, but happens in virtually everything.

ONE Notification is actionable, TWO or MOR notifications and it's just "expandable."

So long as there aren't three email icons, ten Facebook icons and two Hangouts icons filling my bar up I really don't care. Android has the most cluttered status bar ever. The only icons that belong in the status bar are signal, mobile network status, battery level, and clock. Everything else is clutter.

Even in TouchWiz, there is no stopping the tons of icons filling the status bar up. Your only two choices are status bar icons plus badge counters, or zero notifications entirely
 
Well, when you think about it, Android never called it status bar. It was notifications bar. Plus it's a matter of taste. Some people want to have an area where they can get all notifications at once, rather than having to scroll through pages of icons to see that one of your apps has a notification.
 
So long as there aren't three email icons, ten Facebook icons and two Hangouts icons filling my bar up I really don't care. Android has the most cluttered status bar ever. The only icons that belong in the status bar are signal, mobile network status, battery level, and clock. Everything else is clutter.

I'd say that's an issue(feature) with those apps and how they behave, I don't use them myself. I mostly use WeChat and QQ, and those only show one notification icon, no matter how many things are outstanding, you can clear it, and if something comes in for those apps, a notification icon appears again. And as @Chanchan05 pointed out it's not called a "status bar", that's an Apple iOS concept. it's called a notification bar or notification draw in Android, and you can pull it down to see more details of what's notifying you.

The notification bar is often visible when you're in another app, and so can see if something is important or not without having to go back to the launcher, and searching through all the icons looking for badge notifications.
 
OK, so why not simply make it where notifications show when you swipe down seeing as the only details you get show up that way in the first place? It's simply annoying and messy to have a bar totally filled with cluttered icons alongside vital system info. It's also one of those things you can't even fix with root. There is zero way to get app badges without icons filling the bar up.

Also, I'd love it if Google got immersive mode properly done, as there are times I wish the bar were hidden in certain apps (such as chrome or Google+) because the clutter adds more annoyance always out in front. Implement banner notifications like the new TouchWiz does and no need for the status bar in apps. Nothing is so important that it cannot wait until i back out of an app. The status bar (and navigation bar on certain devices) breaks up the whole design aesthetic

It's not an issue on a large tablet, but on a phone the bar is completely filled, and on Samsung they over scroll, often removing more vital information such as mobile network status to make room, then a little plus icon shows to indicate more notifications which requires swiping down to begin with. The choice needs to exist. The bar is in my view and I'm sure the OP's view cluttered and messy.
 
I've never had it actually had it fill-up, to the extent it overflows, even if I leave it for a couple of days. But then I'm not using FB or Hangouts that put multiple notifications up for everything that happens. The FB app showing ten notification icons, that's poor design on the part of FB IMO. If your Facebook is busy with status updates from all your friends, you could be clearing icons every few minutes. What I'm using seems to be well behaved, one notification per app, as I think it should be. If there is a notification from say WeChat, I can open it and see what's in there, also if I open the notification draw it says something like "2 messages from 2 people.", but there's only one notification icon.
 
Well, for one thing, how would you know you have notifications if there is no icon there to tell you? Sure maybe they could have made it something like a single bell icon for any and all notifications, but that's up to the app and ROM developer. I have no idea if it's possible to implement it.
 
Personally I just use Expanded Desktop (rom feature) and if I wanna see my status (notification) bar I swipe down from the top of the screen once to display it, 2ce to expand it.
 
So long as there aren't three email icons, ten Facebook icons and two Hangouts icons filling my bar up I really don't care. Android has the most cluttered status bar ever. The only icons that belong in the status bar are signal, mobile network status, battery level, and clock. Everything else is clutter.

Even in TouchWiz, there is no stopping the tons of icons filling the status bar up. Your only two choices are status bar icons plus badge counters, or zero notifications entirely
Umm... That's not clutter (or rather, only in your opinion), that's information.

Well, when you think about it, Android never called it status bar. It was notifications bar. Plus it's a matter of taste. Some people want to have an area where they can get all notifications at once, rather than having to scroll through pages of icons to see that one of your apps has a notification.

True, however, no platform's users have to hunt across/down [a] home screen looking for Badges/Live Tiles at this point. Android is the only mentionable/major OS without a System-Wide Implementation of Icon Notification Badges (Windows Phone's Live Tiles are equivalent to Badges). Android L isn't "finished" yet (AFAWK), so who knows... It can be coming in a matter of months...

On the flip side, Android now has the least flexible (in terms of managing/triaging your notifications), most abused, Notification Cache/Drop Down of all the major OSes, and that's not looking like it's going to change in Android L.

Even Google abuses it. I curse them ever time that useless Weather Notification decides to appear in my Notification Shade.
 
I've never had it actually had it fill-up, to the extent it overflows, even if I leave it for a couple of days. But then I'm not using FB or Hangouts that put multiple notifications up for everything that happens. The FB app showing ten notification icons, that's poor design on the part of FB IMO. If your Facebook is busy with status updates from all your friends, you could be clearing icons every few minutes. What I'm using seems to be well behaved, one notification per app, as I think it should be. If there is a notification from say WeChat, I can open it and see what's in there, also if I open the notification draw it says something like "2 messages from 2 people.", but there's only one notification icon.

I've never had Facebook put ten icons in my status bar, though I do know it can put multiple icons there, but not for the same type of content. If you have an event invite, then it has a different icon for that. Same for friend request and Comments, etc. The icons are completely different, and the way they've implemented makes since given how so many of their users use their service. It also allows you to see without even pulling down the notification bar if the Notification is something worth dominating your attention. IIRC, it also keeps different categories of Notifications separate from each other in the Notification Shade, allowing you to disregard or dismiss the uninteresting ones and go straight to the ones of note. From a device usage point of view, that is very efficient.

Unless I have you have a privacy setting to specifically not show Avatars/Names/Message Previews toggled on (like you can with the Samsung Messaging App), "2 Messages from 2 People" is unacceptable for a Messaging app, and I wouldn't use something like that as it would result in too much wasted time especially if you have a fair number of people who communicate with you using that service.

That's like an Email Client saying "2 Emails from 2 People" and forcing you to open the client only to find out it's a Newsletter from DirecTV when you switched to DISH 3 months ago. I don't want to have to go into an app just cause a couple people in a group chat replied "Lol" to a joke that I told them 2 hours ago that they just read. I want to see it and disregard it without the extra actions.

Notifications give you these different icons and different information so that you can optimize your usage of the device. This allows you to look at the Notification and completely disregard it if you want, and perhaps skip uninteresting notifications from the same app and go straight to those of note.

That's all good.

The part where Android's notification system breaks down is when you have Multiple Notifications from some apps, like Gmail, the Email App, or some OEM stock apps like the Samsung SMS/MMS client.

In that case, you can Expand the Notification, but the system does not allow you to go directly to the subject of a specific notification, so usage is not optimally efficient in this use case. You have to click the entire notification which thing brings you to the "Home screen" of the app, and from there you must click on the item that interests you. This is much slower than iOS' way of simply expanding the group and clicking or swiping (forget which it is) on whichever one interests you and going straight to it - without regard for those other notifications, and bypassing the extra step by not dumping you at the home screen of the app - but at that specific item in the app (similar to a notification for one email from Gmail on Android goes straight to the email and not to the Inbox; which is what happens when you have multiple notifications from Gmail in your notification bar).

From the Android L previews, the look of the Notifications has changed (in some cases for the better, like the Incoming call Notification is extremely well-done and makes complete sense). However, the actual implementation of the Expandable Notifications seems identical to what we have in Kit Kat, and for people with busy devices, this makes them do too much work to keep their notifications completely cleared (sort of Inbox Zero) on Android, when they could easily disregard the uninteresting ones on other platforms.
 
Well, when you think about it, Android never called it status bar. It was notifications bar. Plus it's a matter of taste. Some people want to have an area where they can get all notifications at once, rather than having to scroll through pages of icons to see that one of your apps has a notification.

First off, kudos for a nice description of the notifications area.

I'll add a couple of other thoughts.

1) Android is designed with the user in mind, and as such it's architecture is purpose built to allow developers maximum flexibility.

2) Android does require a bit of patience to learn. With a true desire to educate yourself as to it's capabilities, the payoff is handsome.

3) There's no reason for a cluttered notification area. That is the product of not setting ones preferences properly. By necessity I use six email accounts, handling well over 100 emails per day via my Android, and find it fast, organized, and reliable. :)
 
I just want a clean status bar where only the vitals are displayed. Being that Android is about choices why doesn't that choice exist? Must i post a screen shot of my Note 3 to prove it? No one can call it clean or clutter free. Funky's hiding the status bar is about as useless as turning off all notifications. Even with a ROM which has badges, (like TouchWiz) the icons need to clutter the bar or the badges don't work. Defeats the point though. They fixed the lag, battery and rebooting issues, so only one is left, cluttered notifications. If there were a way (root or otherwise) to get badges without filling the shade up while still providing vital system information up top and only that, I'd go for it. Hidng the bar while still providing badges would also hide the signal, battery and vital stuff.

 
I just want a clean status bar where only the vitals are displayed. Being that Android is about choices why doesn't that choice exist? Must i post a screen shot of my Note 3 to prove it? No one can call it clean or clutter free. Funky's hiding the status bar is about as useless as turning off all notifications. Even with a ROM which has badges, (like TouchWiz) the icons need to clutter the bar or the badges don't work. Defeats the point though. They fixed the lag, battery and rebooting issues, so only one is left, cluttered notifications. If there were a way (root or otherwise) to get badges without filling the shade up while still providing vital system information up top and only that, I'd go for it. Hidng the bar while still providing badges would also hide the signal, battery and vital stuff.


There is nothing non vital about any of those icons. All of them are things that the user would (and probably should) want to know if it's turned on and/or connected. And given your signal, you probably want to see the connection type as well. MMS/Group Messaging isn't so hot on 1xRTT...

They could perhaps decrease the spacing between the icons, somewhat, and that would yield back a bit of space.

A moderate smartphone user will almost never really notice that outside of when they wake up in the morning since they will triage their notification throughout the day and they won't fill up so much.

What's the microphone icon in your status bar, BTW. S voice hands free? Or the voice recorder?
 
Mic icon for always listening voice commands. S-Voice can indeed be triggered with it as well. Keeps fingerprints off the screen during normal use.

I only want the signal strength, battery, mobile network type and clock up there. That's what I miss from iOS, the clean status bar. It's always full of unnecessary clutter where app badges would be preferable, and not even a root method can fix it. I either accept them constantly overflowing the bar and looking like crap (remember the system tray in windows? ) or i lose notifications entirely. I just want badges and the status bar clean. This is one gripe, the only current gripe with Android which i struggle with. I hate iOS 7 with extreme passion but i really miss the cleaner status bar.
 
Mic icon for always listening voice commands. S-Voice can indeed be triggered with it as well. Keeps fingerprints off the screen during normal use.

I tried that about a month ago with Google, always listening for "OK, Google,..." ..but in the end I found it kind of creepy knowing that my phone was constantly listening with an open channel to one of Google's servers somewhere. An easy way to bug someone, if the NSA or other spook wanted to. Plus the data it was using as well. So decided against it after a couple of days. If I'm using a laptop that isn't mine, I cover the webcam now just in case.
 
It listens only when the screen is on. In one's pocket neither S-Voice or Google Now can be activated. Nor does it do anything if the screen is off.

S-Voice doesn't require use of location so no NSA prying. I prefer S-Voice over Now. Not only does it do more than searches or launching apps (Now cannot trigger WiFi on or off, enable or disable ring tones, or dim the screen) it also has a more pleasant voice engine. Now tends to be hit or miss, often giving me the usual, vague 'cannot reach Google at the moment'

I am not sure why but at home Google ceases to connect outside of search and Play Movies. Now is useless as a result. My Internet is a Verizon jet pack tied to a router (for wired devices) and it refuses to cooperate with https. It will hardly load such sites, forcing me to use Dolphin or the stock browser which doesn't redirect to https when entering URLs. Sites using https load like a 56k connection or time out. I still haven't pinpointed the cause, and neither has Verizon.
 
S Voice Permissions:

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Recent Location Access:

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Paranoia and buying into FUD is bad. Have you checked the permissions on Google preload like Hangouts lately? It has more than the Facebook Messenger app people are crying about right now, and isn't an "optional" download for Android users.

This is the wrong platform for people that concerned with privacy and security, to be frank and honest.
 
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