Thank you, thank you' you've just replied with a good and sensible rebuttal. Case closed! (you should be a lawyer,lol')
You're absolutely right.
Btw,I thought I was listening to his apple Sermon!wow!
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Is Apple going to steal the spotlight from Android? iPhone OS 4.0
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You're absolutely right.
Btw,I thought I was listening to his apple Sermon!wow!
@Nexoid: you're so bad, man! lol'
@=darreno1: because he knows that the android is capable and the iphone is lacking in many.The bottom line is "Denial".
@ technoholicjakk: I loved his style too.What you said is absolutely right too.Wow. You sound pretty angry mate, but I like your style.
And he is right - on all accounts, except one > Apple products aren't of a low quality they are of a very high standard. In fact, they are one of a few companies who will spend over 1.5 million dollars just to get the corners of a Macbook to have the right balance between being square and being rounded.
But apart from the external casing, I can't argue that the overall hardware of a Mac is shit compared to what you can get for a PC in the same price bracket.
I don't have this problem though - because my preferred OS is UBUNTUno viruses, no thrills and just hard case programming. Love it, and guess what? It doesn't have the piss praise Apple logo
@IOWA: wow,you're good and absolutely correct.I want you,to be my lawyer!lol'
err......are you kidding me! caveman ?????which cave did you crawl out from? No points for you! Class detention!
Hopefully my lawyer IOWA don't get to read this.lol'
Unclebill
Newbie
a.) I am glad I chose a Droid ... I think it can do as much as an iPhone and ultimately do it better. The marriage between the Motorola Droid and Verizon Wireless is perfect for the long haul.
b.) I have a Mac laptop and a Mac Desktop (G5) ... love them both.
c.) All the computers at work are Windows based ... some days, I spend more time playing computer technician than getting my work done.
I HATE Windows ... I've spend thousands of hours over the years dealing with Windows and Microsoft software issues ... I would love to be dealing EXCLUSIVELY with Apple products ... THEY WORK - period. They are not for "lazy people" but for people who want to get work done and not screw around with various computer issues. At work, time is money ... fixing computers wastes both.
There's nothing wrong with the iPhone ... the problem is AT&T ... their 3G coverage is horrible and the iPhone becomes an expensive cell phone in much of their service area. (I've had friends with iPhones visit me at work from both Allentown and Philadelphia and they can't believe how bad their AT&T service is in my area.)
The Droid - being open architecture - has endless possibilities and the Verizon network can only contribute to those possibilities.
Being an Apple "cheer leader", I can only say, you could try to give me a free iPhone and I would turn it down ... I'd rather have my Droid.
b.) I have a Mac laptop and a Mac Desktop (G5) ... love them both.
c.) All the computers at work are Windows based ... some days, I spend more time playing computer technician than getting my work done.
I HATE Windows ... I've spend thousands of hours over the years dealing with Windows and Microsoft software issues ... I would love to be dealing EXCLUSIVELY with Apple products ... THEY WORK - period. They are not for "lazy people" but for people who want to get work done and not screw around with various computer issues. At work, time is money ... fixing computers wastes both.
There's nothing wrong with the iPhone ... the problem is AT&T ... their 3G coverage is horrible and the iPhone becomes an expensive cell phone in much of their service area. (I've had friends with iPhones visit me at work from both Allentown and Philadelphia and they can't believe how bad their AT&T service is in my area.)
The Droid - being open architecture - has endless possibilities and the Verizon network can only contribute to those possibilities.
Being an Apple "cheer leader", I can only say, you could try to give me a free iPhone and I would turn it down ... I'd rather have my Droid.
@Unclebill: sorry unclebill I am baffled
Btw,nobody ever says that anything wrong with the iphone.We are talking about capabilities and functionality.In 4 years what've the iphone evolved into, beside updated the "3" and "S" with the same iphone.I have 2 iphones (3G and 3GS)?looks like I can't even give it to you! (no comments from others please,the iphones i mean)lol'
TheNorthernForest
Android Enthusiast
You can pound your chests as much as you want, but Apple is going to leap ahead. We al knew this, even though we didn't want it to become a reality.
EDIT: A lot of people claim that iPhone isn't a business-type phone, but lately I've been seeing nothing but iPhone's during Basketball games, celebrities using them, even my friends Dad who is in business.
EDIT: A lot of people claim that iPhone isn't a business-type phone, but lately I've been seeing nothing but iPhone's during Basketball games, celebrities using them, even my friends Dad who is in business.
Yep. I have Apple everything, but I despise AT&T and would never go back. Thats why I dont own an iphone. As great as Android is, Apple is going to have Google playing catch up for probably the next year after they drop the next iphone. Its cool though, stiff competition means Google cant afford to get complacent.
Currently Android is beating the iPhone but let's see what the next version of iPhone brings. Apple can't afford a tweak this time around. They need to seriously move the platform forward to get ahead of Google...then Google will fight back...it's well cool because we all benefit from that.
MOS95B
Android Enthusiast
When they release the iPhone into "the wild", it's gonna go nuts. everyone is gonna run around screaming about how they can now get the iPhonoe without changing carriers. And a new OS to boot.
Just wait, it's going to be main stream news. Not local channel, general interest. it will be on the NBC Nightly News as if it were actually of national importance.
Why? Because it has been well marketed in the past. People know what an iPod/iPhone is. You don't have to explain to them why this OS is better than/different from that OS. And, it has one manufacturer to control the ads.
Does that make it a better phone? Does that mean the new OS is \better than Android? Honestly, it has not so much as a damned thing to do with it.
When/if the "all carriers can have it" announcement comes, it will have abso-frickin-lutely nothing to do with the technology. It will be a marketing event, and it will kick Android to the curb for a while.
I personally prefer the Android technology all around. But, my training in psychology knows how marketing affects the herd mentality built into all of us.
Get ready for the marketing bliz. Prepare to argue with or ignore the Apple "converted". And just wait for the world to move on...
Just wait, it's going to be main stream news. Not local channel, general interest. it will be on the NBC Nightly News as if it were actually of national importance.
Why? Because it has been well marketed in the past. People know what an iPod/iPhone is. You don't have to explain to them why this OS is better than/different from that OS. And, it has one manufacturer to control the ads.
Does that make it a better phone? Does that mean the new OS is \better than Android? Honestly, it has not so much as a damned thing to do with it.
When/if the "all carriers can have it" announcement comes, it will have abso-frickin-lutely nothing to do with the technology. It will be a marketing event, and it will kick Android to the curb for a while.
I personally prefer the Android technology all around. But, my training in psychology knows how marketing affects the herd mentality built into all of us.
Get ready for the marketing bliz. Prepare to argue with or ignore the Apple "converted". And just wait for the world to move on...
IOWA
Mr. Logic Pants
And as Macs become more mainstream, guess what, more people are going to develop malware for it. FACT IS, macs are no safer than pcs. But if I was a bad guy, would I waste my time with the peons or go for the big goose and nerd hacking glory!
So if I was a mac user, i would pray that no-one else in the world would pick up a mac. I would give it bad reviews. And when that first big virus hits OSX, it's going to be funny watching all the mac kids running around with no head, b/c they have no antivirus, no way to deal with the problem. Good Luck.
So its not that Apple products are 'more stable'.
Its the fact that it wasnt worth attacking.
But now i'm sure theres a megavirus in the works somewhere around the world.... ready to gobble up all you unsuspecting macheads.
thisnameistaken
Member
I recently bought my Android phone having toyed with the idea of getting an iPhone for ages. In the end I saw enough of the iPhone (through friends) to know I didn't want it, so I took a gamble on Android instead.
Yes the iPhone looks slick, yes it's very "Apple", yes it's super-convenient if you use OSX on the desktop and want to sync everything easily, but it suffers from the same flaw as the iPod - a pretty but inherently limited UI, too much emphasis on form and not enough on function. I honestly think my Hero is a better communications device than the iPhone. It doesn't have the grunt of the 3GS, but who buys a phone to play Quake?
Don't get me wrong I love what Apple are doing on the desktop - I still think OSX is the nicest way to use a computer by a mile - but when I use their portable devices it makes me wonder if it's even the same company.
Compare the iPhone interface - basically a list, a big bloody list - with the desktop interface on Android. It's backward! It's about time Apple offered something more sophisticated, frankly. I'm a bit disappointed that this is going to swing my arguments with my iPhone-adoring mate in his favour though.
thisnameistaken
Member
OSX is built on BSD. Set up properly (and Apple seem to be quite adept at securing their OS) and used properly it's much more secure than Windows.
You're right it's currently a small target, but even if it was a big target it would be a much tougher nut to crack than Windows.
Really? OSX got hacked in less than 30 minutes in a test done last year:
Mac OS X hacked under 30 minutes - News - Security - ZDNet Australia hacked&aq=f&aql=&aqi=g-msx1g-m1&oq=
Edit:^^ that was obviously done in '06 but I know it was done again some time last year.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2917
Two minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4THyVOyGJL4
The only reason we don't see more malware/viruses is market share, plain and simple. The weakest link will aways be the user. And its certainly not hard to get a Mac user to give root access to malicious code.
The only thing Apple is adept at is marketing.
IOWA
Mr. Logic Pants
Thankyou. Good find. Every computer system needs protection these days, doesn't matter the OS it runs. My PC's run just fine, and I have the proper security/firewalls to protect them. If your going to invest hundreds or ever thousands into a Computer, a couple hundred to keep them protected shouldn't bother you. OSX is just as vulnerable as windows.
mez
Well-Known Member
so... what did people think of the ipad.. i admit it looks nice. it might be very nice for BASIC things but it looks like a over sized itouch, that dosnt have any real meat(meat substitue if your a veggie) to it. I think it could be quite nice to own one if the price was say about the same as a netbook which i very much doubt.
mesovortex888
Newbie
Not trying to start any s***, but the money I spent on my computer is still not enough to buy a new Apple computer. The only thing I can get with the same price is an iPad.
cooolone2
Android Enthusiast
Of course Apple is trying to steal thunder from the Android platform. With all the information released on the % of market share increase over the last year and the projection for the coming year on mobile handsets... Apple has cause for concern. The share increase is coming largely at the demise of the WinMo platform which has been rendered speechless in all the buzz of late. Windows 7 for handsets in typical Microsoft fashion is not due MAYBE until 3Q 2010. It will barely be breathing then. Apple KNOWS in addition to the dozen or so Android phones slated for release that there are already announced Laptop, Nebook an Touch screen versions of Android on their way.
Worried is Apple? I'd say not yet. Preserving their slice of the pie... Absolutely!!!
What people miss in labeling others as LAZY when looking at the way Apple designs it's hardware is forgetful of the GUI in itself. Up until Apple designed and perfected it, the PC and or computer was only command line interface which kept many a folk away from them, period. The GUI made the computer friendly and accessible, no different from their products today. Ease of use is the idea. Not Lazy, come on.
I love my HERO!
Worried is Apple? I'd say not yet. Preserving their slice of the pie... Absolutely!!!
What people miss in labeling others as LAZY when looking at the way Apple designs it's hardware is forgetful of the GUI in itself. Up until Apple designed and perfected it, the PC and or computer was only command line interface which kept many a folk away from them, period. The GUI made the computer friendly and accessible, no different from their products today. Ease of use is the idea. Not Lazy, come on.
I love my HERO!