eljefe0000
Android Enthusiast
i was with metro till last month i got the $30 plan i just use groove ip for calls so i basically get unlimited everything for 30 bux unless your a bandwidth hog 5gb is more than enough
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Is it just me or is the sgs3 for metro way too overpriced?
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i was with metro till last month i got the $30 plan i just use groove ip for calls so i basically get unlimited everything for 30 bux unless your a bandwidth hog 5gb is more than enough
Sterlsilver
Well-Known Member
Well i stream music with Pandora like everyday while I'm out and watch YouTube videos.
I used to watch Netflix on my phone too but lg.connect battery can only last for at least 2 episodes -__-
Fuzzy13
Extreme Android User
Being that the new nexus is priced just right, you can't go wrong with it. You could adjust buy two s3s for the same price.
Let me put out my logic of overpriced in some comparison.
Lets say you have a choice of 4 monitors
a)17'' monitor for $109
b)23'' monitor for $150
c)27'' monitor for $320
d)Dell ultrasharp 27" for $900
(prices are assumption but somewhat close to the actual prices)
I myself own a 27" monitor which I got for $220 2 years ago.
So what is your most likely pick? I'd say most people are going to buy 23" just because the price is right. It does not seem like a rip off and it's not overpriced. I know myself, I'm not willing to pay $170 for 4 extra inches. I also do not want to save $40 in order to lose 5''. Therefore for now 17" and 27" are overpriced one's. Dell ultrasharp are the investments. Those screen have 1920 x 1200 resolutions and just an amazing colors + contrast, it's the best monitors available today. (Here is your "WOW" factor)
There are people who buy ultra sharp screens, but majority of buyers get it for graphic development, or movie editing or else.
Coming back to phones. I own 3 LG Motions for the price of 1 SIII and my phones are capable of doing everything what SIII can for the fraction of the price. Therefore this phone is overpriced.
Lets say you have a choice of 4 monitors
a)17'' monitor for $109
b)23'' monitor for $150
c)27'' monitor for $320
d)Dell ultrasharp 27" for $900
(prices are assumption but somewhat close to the actual prices)
I myself own a 27" monitor which I got for $220 2 years ago.
So what is your most likely pick? I'd say most people are going to buy 23" just because the price is right. It does not seem like a rip off and it's not overpriced. I know myself, I'm not willing to pay $170 for 4 extra inches. I also do not want to save $40 in order to lose 5''. Therefore for now 17" and 27" are overpriced one's. Dell ultrasharp are the investments. Those screen have 1920 x 1200 resolutions and just an amazing colors + contrast, it's the best monitors available today. (Here is your "WOW" factor)
There are people who buy ultra sharp screens, but majority of buyers get it for graphic development, or movie editing or else.
Coming back to phones. I own 3 LG Motions for the price of 1 SIII and my phones are capable of doing everything what SIII can for the fraction of the price. Therefore this phone is overpriced.
Fuzzy13
Extreme Android User
No disrespect meant but perhaps you should take a Logical Thought Process class because here, (IMO) your's is faulty.
Assuming we are still talking S3s, there's nothing in your description above that has you doing Anything you can't do just fine on a $140 Motion.
So, relying soley on your arguement presented, for you, a S3 is a Want (and thusly NOT an investment) and Not a Need (which Could Be an inverstement).
Good try though!
Bruce in Ocala, FL
Here here
Gman9831
I'm no Senior
Yes but the link I posted those are all people with the metro s3 trying it & it worked it even says metropcs galaxy s3 thread on top
eljefe0000
Android Enthusiast
i see now i didnt notice the first time u posted all i saw was verizon but good find.. still getting that nexus 4 in a few when it comes out cant wait to hook that bad boy up on tmobile
THE W
Android Expert
i can agree that the S3 at $500 may not be worth the price in light of the awesomeness of the motion, new phones coming out with more advanced technology, the merger, and google selling the nexus 4 for as low as $300(if you buy it from the playstore).
as someone has mentioned however, if you're gonna say the S3 shouldnt cost $500 than you have to say that about every phone meaning smartphones are overpriced in general.
the S3 is the top selling android phone in the world right now and hasnt even been out 5 months yet. the going rate for newly released smartphones off contract is between $650-$700 and even higher if we're dealing with iphones, so the phone has already come down $150-$200. the GS2 is going for $370 on boost. thats a year old phone. tmobile is still selling it off contract for $500. now THATS overpriced. i mean, samsung lightray overpriced, especially when they're selling their variant with 2.3 Gingerbread. hell, the LG esteem is still selling for $379 on metro and thats a year old phone thats not as good as the S2. virgin is still selling the 8GB iphone 4 for $550 and 16Gb iphone 4s for $650.
its seems non contract prices for phones take a few years to come down. you get way better deals with older phones on contract.
i believe the nexus4 being sold wholesale directly through the playstore has a lot to do with its low pricetag. tmobile is supposed to get a nexus 4 carrier variant and its gonna be in that $650-$700 range off contract. those of us on CDMA carriers are gonna have to fork over that kind of cash off contract. $500 is the lowest price metroPCS could get for this phone.
and to get these nicer phones you're gonna have to leave metro and that nice $55 no limits plan or the $30 plan. the nexus4 from the playstore is out for metro customers, at least until the merger in finalized next year.
PS. performance-wise the motion and S3 are pretty much even but as far as functionality the S3 is significantly better. whether the extra functionality is worth an extra $350 is up to you.
as someone has mentioned however, if you're gonna say the S3 shouldnt cost $500 than you have to say that about every phone meaning smartphones are overpriced in general.
the S3 is the top selling android phone in the world right now and hasnt even been out 5 months yet. the going rate for newly released smartphones off contract is between $650-$700 and even higher if we're dealing with iphones, so the phone has already come down $150-$200. the GS2 is going for $370 on boost. thats a year old phone. tmobile is still selling it off contract for $500. now THATS overpriced. i mean, samsung lightray overpriced, especially when they're selling their variant with 2.3 Gingerbread. hell, the LG esteem is still selling for $379 on metro and thats a year old phone thats not as good as the S2. virgin is still selling the 8GB iphone 4 for $550 and 16Gb iphone 4s for $650.
its seems non contract prices for phones take a few years to come down. you get way better deals with older phones on contract.
i believe the nexus4 being sold wholesale directly through the playstore has a lot to do with its low pricetag. tmobile is supposed to get a nexus 4 carrier variant and its gonna be in that $650-$700 range off contract. those of us on CDMA carriers are gonna have to fork over that kind of cash off contract. $500 is the lowest price metroPCS could get for this phone.
and to get these nicer phones you're gonna have to leave metro and that nice $55 no limits plan or the $30 plan. the nexus4 from the playstore is out for metro customers, at least until the merger in finalized next year.
PS. performance-wise the motion and S3 are pretty much even but as far as functionality the S3 is significantly better. whether the extra functionality is worth an extra $350 is up to you.
mike28
Android Expert
I don't know why this topic keeps going and going who is ever is happy with spending $500 on the s3 including me its our money I could have chosen other options but it's my decision I'm a grown ass men with kids so I call my own shots even the new nexus the s3 was my option Happy with my s3 it was and it Is the best decision I made nexus 4 wouldn't work for Me gsm only I bet the lte version is to follow
Fuzzy13
Extreme Android User
Lucky you. Let me know how it is. I might scoop it up after the development becomes solid.
nailzer
Android Enthusiast
I bought my GS3 for $500. Buying that phone I was able to drop my monthly charge to $30 per month with the metroPCS $30 promotional plan. In 17 months I'll have saved enough money from being on the $30 a month plan to pay for my phone. I was on the $60 a month plan before I bought the GS3. No regrets here.
Pappy62
Android Expert
Why are you going to college?? To make money? Get a job?
Perhaps you should go back and read my post again. lol
overpriced and can afford it, have nothing in common. If you can afford it, it doesn't mean its not overpriced. As I said earlier I wanted myself, my girlfriend, my mom and my sister to have a nice phones. Spending $2000+ tax was not an option. $700 was alot for 4 smartphone, but everyones happy. My lg motions are not far away from sIII in performance, but its a real winner in price differences.
Most of you buy 1 phone, what if you
needed 5 SIII's? Do you own at least 4 galaxies in your family?
OcalaFlGuy
Android Expert
More faulty thought process.
You have more than sufficient data from people here showing why the $500 price for the S3 ISN'T overpriced relative to other schmatt fones.
Now, to disprove your above "logic" to yourself, look at the stats for the Motion and compare to other phones with similar stats and those phone's prices.
THERE you will find the correct answer. (Hint; you last paragraph was dead on right up til you drove off the cliff with your last sentence...)
The unspoken answer to your last paragraph ISN'T that the S3 is overpriced but the the Motion is pretty dramatically UNDERPRICED for what it is and what it can do (stats).
Bruce in Ocala, FL
One of my lg motions already has 2600 mah battery, Last time i checked I could have my screen on with full brightness for 6,5 hours. My CPU runs on 900mhz without any performance issues. It has enough ram to run it smoothly. Decent cameras. You don't feel like you have a 10" tablet inside your pocket. Screen is ok. 5gb of inner storage. Last time I checked, it runs Dead Space and Nova 3. So that pretty much beats the S3 at less than 1/3 of the price.
Underpriced is when company that sells you the phone makes no money, this only happens when there are price mistakes.
S3 is a nice phone but not at this price.
As of again my family owns 4 great smartphones at the price of a little more than 1 phone. Thats something to think of.
Would you be willing to spend $2200 on a smartphones for your family?
eljefe0000
Android Enthusiast
you know development for it is gonna be crazy just look at the nexus and how many roms and what not it has, whats nice about them is that their not locked down like the phones from carriers so its a lot easier for developers to get busy on it
tiede
Android Expert
You're way too entrenched in your opinion for any arguments to reach you and make you change, but if you open up, you'll see what we're trying to say here.
The motion is underpriced if we follow your logic. Period.
That phone does more than phones sold at it's price does. That's a fact.
Now, it does it because a few sacrifices where made: internal sd card size, no nfc chip, low resolution display... those allow the manufacturer to get it out at a lower price than it would have cost them otherwise. You could say the motion was smartly built.
Now the s3 was not designed for the cost conscious. It has that shiny screen, the expansive display, the nfc chip, dual microphones for noise cancellation, two location chips(GPS and Glonass), more sensors...
Those things cost more to put in the phone, and they were put there because the idea behind them wasn't cost, but flagship. The s3 is a statement. Not an investment. It's Samsung's way of tilting the eyes of buyers towards its devices. Even if one does not buy the s3, the extra clout Samsung receives from it makes its other phones sell(it's called the coattails effect). In light of this, the s3 is Samsung's Audi Quattro, to LG's Kia Rio...
Now from the other side of the equation, prices are set not only by cost, but by the law of supply and demand.
Customers want more of a product, the price goes up.
Inventory is too high, and manufacturer needs to dump more items out, prices drop.
All smartphones are pricy. Why? Customers want them. So, the manufacturers don't have to sell at cost.
The iPhone 5 will not remain at that ridiculous $800 off-contract. Why? It's overpriced, and no one is buying it at that price(demand is low). So, Apple will have extra inventory of the device it needs to dispose of(supply is high). Therefore, the price will go down.
Cost is only part of the price equation of a product. And not even the main driving factor. If it was, manufacturers would not need to be cost-conscious, and you'd have people living in houses where the floor is made of tv screens, and they'd get the money back easy. There's no demand for tv floors right now, so even selling tv floors below cost, no one would care to have it.
But, if you make a car that runs on air, looks like a Honda civic, but sells for twice as much. Would people buy it? In a heart beat. Why? Demand for that car would sky rocket. And the price would actually go up...
Why that's not readily available when the technology actually exists is another discussion that does not belong in this thread.
So, is the s3 expensive? Hell yes. Is it overpriced? Considering market response to it, no.
If people were to suddenly take a disinterest in smartphones, they'd start selling at cost, and even the motion would be overpriced.
The motion is underpriced if we follow your logic. Period.
That phone does more than phones sold at it's price does. That's a fact.
Now, it does it because a few sacrifices where made: internal sd card size, no nfc chip, low resolution display... those allow the manufacturer to get it out at a lower price than it would have cost them otherwise. You could say the motion was smartly built.
Now the s3 was not designed for the cost conscious. It has that shiny screen, the expansive display, the nfc chip, dual microphones for noise cancellation, two location chips(GPS and Glonass), more sensors...
Those things cost more to put in the phone, and they were put there because the idea behind them wasn't cost, but flagship. The s3 is a statement. Not an investment. It's Samsung's way of tilting the eyes of buyers towards its devices. Even if one does not buy the s3, the extra clout Samsung receives from it makes its other phones sell(it's called the coattails effect). In light of this, the s3 is Samsung's Audi Quattro, to LG's Kia Rio...
Now from the other side of the equation, prices are set not only by cost, but by the law of supply and demand.
Customers want more of a product, the price goes up.
Inventory is too high, and manufacturer needs to dump more items out, prices drop.
All smartphones are pricy. Why? Customers want them. So, the manufacturers don't have to sell at cost.
The iPhone 5 will not remain at that ridiculous $800 off-contract. Why? It's overpriced, and no one is buying it at that price(demand is low). So, Apple will have extra inventory of the device it needs to dispose of(supply is high). Therefore, the price will go down.
Cost is only part of the price equation of a product. And not even the main driving factor. If it was, manufacturers would not need to be cost-conscious, and you'd have people living in houses where the floor is made of tv screens, and they'd get the money back easy. There's no demand for tv floors right now, so even selling tv floors below cost, no one would care to have it.
But, if you make a car that runs on air, looks like a Honda civic, but sells for twice as much. Would people buy it? In a heart beat. Why? Demand for that car would sky rocket. And the price would actually go up...
Why that's not readily available when the technology actually exists is another discussion that does not belong in this thread.
So, is the s3 expensive? Hell yes. Is it overpriced? Considering market response to it, no.
If people were to suddenly take a disinterest in smartphones, they'd start selling at cost, and even the motion would be overpriced.
You're way too entrenched in your opinion for any arguments to reach you and make you change, but if you open up, you'll see what we're trying to say here.
The motion is underpriced if we follow your logic. Period.
That phone does more than phones sold at it's price does. That's a fact.
Now, it does it because a few sacrifices where made: internal sd card size, no nfc chip, low resolution display... those allow the manufacturer to get it out at a lower price than it would have cost them otherwise. You could say the motion was smartly built.
Now the s3 was not designed for the cost conscious. It has that shiny screen, the expansive display, the nfc chip, dual microphones for noise cancellation, two location chips(GPS and Glonass), more sensors...
Those things cost more to put in the phone, and they were put there because the idea behind them wasn't cost, but flagship. The s3 is a statement. Not an investment. It's Samsung's way of tilting the eyes of buyers towards its devices. Even if one does not buy the s3, the extra clout Samsung receives from it makes its other phones sell(it's called the coattails effect). In light of this, the s3 is Samsung's Audi Quattro, to LG's Kia Rio...
Now from the other side of the equation, prices are set not only by cost, but by the law of supply and demand.
Customers want more of a product, the price goes up.
Inventory is too high, and manufacturer needs to dump more items out, prices drop.
All smartphones are pricy. Why? Customers want them. So, the manufacturers don't have to sell at cost.
The iPhone 5 will not remain at that ridiculous $800 off-contract. Why? It's overpriced, and no one is buying it at that price(demand is low). So, Apple will have extra inventory of the device it needs to dispose of(supply is high). Therefore, the price will go down.
Cost is only part of the price equation of a product. And not even the main driving factor. If it was, manufacturers would not need to be cost-conscious, and you'd have people living in houses where the floor is made of tv screens, and they'd get the money back easy. There's no demand for tv floors right now, so even selling tv floors below cost, no one would care to have it.
But, if you make a car that runs on air, looks like a Honda civic, but sells for twice as much. Would people buy it? In a heart beat. Why? Demand for that car would sky rocket. And the price would actually go up...
Why that's not readily available when the technology actually exists is another discussion that does not belong in this thread.
So, is the s3 expensive? Hell yes. Is it overpriced? Considering market response to it, no.
If people were to suddenly take a disinterest in smartphones, they'd start selling at cost, and even the motion would be overpriced.
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S3 has more features and things build in. comparing kia vs audi is ridiculous. Phones and components made by the same factories, cars are not. You might compair Honda vs Acura, or even Kia vs Hyundai.
S3 is made of a little better component, by the same factories in the same country. It probably takes them the same time to make S3 as well as the motion. It does not have the best battery nor it can pick the signal from the bottom of the ocean. There is absolutely nothing extra special about S3. Its just another phone with more chips build into it. Why does it have to be so expensive!?
Coming back to cars. Honda juat released new Accord and its overpriced for now. In a year or so its going to be priced right.
S3 is great phone, but as of now the price is set way top high, therefore is overpriced.
You say disagree with him but than you end up making the same point he was trying to make.
No disrespect meant but perhaps you should take a Logical Thought Process class because here, (IMO) your's is faulty.
Assuming we are still talking S3s, there's nothing in your description above that has you doing Anything you can't do just fine on a $140 Motion.
So, relying soley on your arguement presented, for you, a S3 is a Want (and thusly NOT an investment) and Not a Need (which Could Be an inverstement).
Good try though!
Bruce in Ocala, FL
Well the motion has a sucky camera, not to mention a tiny screen and it's just not something i would want to look at everyday. However if i didn't have sufficient founds for a gs3 i would got with the LG Connect.
All the things that you mentioned, could be done on a much cheaper phone without any loss of performance. I do the same things you do but for remote control I use PhoneMyPc and for file transfer I have an FTP server set up. Again $500 not worth the money.
S3 is not an investment. People dont design things with Autocad on smartphones. You dont work on Maya or Photoshop. S3 is not going to make a Fatal1ty out of you. It`s still has a tiny screen for movies. Battery life is an average. Camera is not making DSLR quality pictures. It has absolutly no breakthrough technologies. How does it worth $500 vs my $150 lg motion, when I can do absolutely the same things with same performance as you can do?
There are people swithing off esteems and connects to lg motion. Motion has 5mp camera with flash. There is no way to do a quality pictures without good lenses, and none of the phones can compare to even the cheapest digital cameras.
There are compromises here and there, but not $350 worth of them.
The motion is good for it's price with a ok performance. The gs3 is a bit pricey but you get what you pay for. Take a look at these specifications.
LG Motion -
5 mp camera
Gorilla glass
VGA Front-Facing Camera
5GB built in memory
1GB Ram
1.2 GHz Processor
Up to 32 GB expandable memory
Talk Time StandbyTime Battery up to 5.4 hours (in 1x only) up to 290 hours (in 1x only)
1700 mAh battery
3.5 inch screen with 320 x 480
Galaxy S3-
8 mp camera
Gorilla glass 2
1.9 Mega pixel front camera, HD recording
16 gb built in memory
2GB Ram
1.4 GHz processor
Up to 64 expandable memory
8 hour talk time/350 stand by(4G)
2,100 mAh battery
4.8 inch HD Super AMOLED
1280x720 display
S Beam, Buddy photo share, Share shot
AllShare Play, AllShare Cast
Smart stay, Social tag, Group tag, Face zoom,
Face slide show
Direct call, Smart alert, Tap to top,
Camera quick access
Pop up play
S Voice
Burst shot & Best photo, Recording snapshot,
HDR
LED notification light
NFC(google wallet)
Free Turn By Turn Navigation System !
Being that a commonly watch videos play games and use my phone to surf often when i'm not home the S3 is worth it for me. While the motion would save me a lot of money it will come with more frustration such as battery dying faster than i would like, tiny screen, outdated camera, you hav to use Metro navigation which sucks compared to the free Google navigation system that comes with the s3, and a horrible screen resolution. Galaxy SIII beat it in every way and have more functionality to do things quickly and conveniently, honestly this device have me spoiled
But like i've said before if you don't have sufficient founds then don't go in debt trying to acquire this device.The motion is good for it's price with a ok performance. The gs3 is a bit pricey but you get what you pay for. Take a look at these specifications.
LG Motion -
5 mp camera
Gorilla glass
VGA Front-Facing Camera
5GB built in memory
1GB Ram
1.2 GHz Processor
Up to 32 GB expandable memory
Talk Time StandbyTime Battery up to 5.4 hours (in 1x only) up to 290 hours (in 1x only)
1700 mAh battery
3.5 inch screen with 320 x 480
Galaxy S3-
8 mp camera
Gorilla glass 2
1.9 Mega pixel front camera, HD recording
16 gb built in memory
2GB Ram
1.4 GHz processor
Up to 64 expandable memory
8 hour talk time/350 stand by(4G)
2,100 mAh battery
4.8 inch HD Super AMOLED
1280x720 display
S Beam, Buddy photo share, Share shot
AllShare Play, AllShare Cast
Smart stay, Social tag, Group tag, Face zoom,
Face slide show
Direct call, Smart alert, Tap to top,
Camera quick access
Pop up play
S Voice
Burst shot & Best photo, Recording snapshot,
HDR
LED notification light
NFC(google wallet)
Free Turn By Turn Navigation System !
Being that a commonly watch videos play games and use my phone to surf often when i'm not home the S3 is worth it for me. While the motion would save me a lot of money it will come with more frustration such as battery dying faster than i would like, tiny screen, outdated camera, you hav to use Metro navigation which sucks compared to the free Google navigation system that comes with the s3, and a horrible screen resolution. Galaxy SIII beat it in every way and have more functionality to do things quickly and conveniently, honestly this device have me spoiled
You don't have to use metro navigation, google maps work fine. There is no way to do quicker things with no lag on my screen. Lg motion has 1.5 ghz cpu and it works just as well on 900mhz.
Ok you got better specs you won. Double the price of Lg motion, even add little more. Set it to $400, thats almost triple price, but not the $500. That's 3.3 times the difference. If Im buying pc for $3300 vs pc for $1000. Its better be at least 5 times faster than a $1000 computer.
ofcause the numbers are not really accurate, but I hope some of you get my point.