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Root "jail breaking" vs. rooting

thehulk20

thehulk20

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not that i'm going to run out and get the i-phone from verizon (because i WILL NOT...especially now that i have learned how to flash custom ROMs), what is the difference between jail breaking and rooting...or flashing custom ROMs?
 
To my knowledge not too much ...they both more or less give the user the right to do extra things (super user/admin)...im not sure how the rom scene works with I phone but I do believe they can be difficult to recover although I could be wrong
 
gmenfan83 said:
To my knowledge not too much ...they both more or less give the user the right to do extra things (super user/admin)...im not sure how the rom scene works with I phone but I do believe they can be difficult to recover although I could be wrong
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Lol "I Phone", I can see you dont type that often.
 
Get a old 3g atleast you can install Idroid which is awesome, other than that there is not really roms to flash its more like rediculous themeing. There are some that are truly sick. Once a iphone is jailbroken other than transfer music it pretty much is like a android.
 
So why haven't the devs created any ROMs for the iPhone then. Heck they've been out long enough, there aughta be tons of them by now.
 
The concept is the same. Jailbreaking is simply gaining superuser access, as is rooting.

However, a jailbroken iPhone is nothing like a rooted Android device.

I tried very hard to take the best parts of Android and figure out how to replicate it on my iPhone. In the end, though, you have a core OS that is nothing like Android.

It's like owning a Toyota Camry and saying, well, I want to do my best to make it into a pickup truck. The platforms are so fundamentally different that it'll never be equivalent, no matter how much work you put into it. In many ways, that's as it should be - they are two different platforms and shouldn't necessarily be matched up 1:1.

iDroid is interesting but it's always going to be somewhat buggy because the iPhone platform isn't completely open so they're never going to have the source for all of the drivers and such that might allow them to fully optimize the platform for the phone, not to mention they only support older iPhone devices. I'd probably buy a VZW iPhone 4 if there was a totally solid Android port. I'd miss the screen size but it sure is a nice piece of hardware, and the choice between the two operating systems would be great.
 
gmenfan83 said:
To my knowledge not too much ...they both more or less give the user the right to do extra things (super user/admin)...im not sure how the rom scene works with I phone but I do believe they can be difficult to recover although I could be wrong
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I think its extremely easy to recover, just connect to itunes and run the recovery. Although that's just what I've heard, I've never been an ifollower
 
iPhones are the most ridiculously easy phones to recover ever.

ALL smartphones should follow the Apple model.

Boot to recovery by holding the home button and power, plug the phone into a computer. iTunes immediately says, "I see you connected a phone in recovery mode. Would you like to recover it?"

Click yes, and boom, it loads a full image onto your phone. It's beautiful.
 
Jail breaking the iClone is pretty basic shit and all it really does it let you customize the phone to make it more your own, which android phones do stock. Every iClone that I jail broke I did out of pure boredom from having my phone look like everyone else's. It does let you do some theming and swap in an extra dock icon or add some basic widget type stuff but overall it doesn't run the same. I don't care what anyone says all of my JB iClones were extremely buggy and rebooted by themselves a bunch.
 
Jailbreaking and unlocking are different.

Jailbreaking = gaining superuser privileges.

Unlocking = allowing carrier switching.
 
G.Armour said:
That is actually pretty sweet. Wish Android was that easy to recover.
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I would have to say that it IS that easy to recover... Plug phone into PC, boot into recovery, open RSDlite, and SBF it. And as a plus you don't have to install I tunes on your computer- that is one of the worst programs I've ever had the displeasure of using. Apple makes good hardware... It's the software that kills it for me.

My $.02.
 
What if you don't have .sbf?:) Motorola didn't release it, it was leaked by TBH. And I remember P3 saying that he won't release any future .sbf (might be wrong on that)
 
zane! said:
I would have to say that it IS that easy to recover... Plug phone into PC, boot into recovery, open RSDlite, and SBF it. And as a plus you don't have to install I tunes on your computer- that is one of the worst programs I've ever had the displeasure of using. Apple makes good hardware... It's the software that kills it for me.

My $.02.
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Sure, simple.

Except there are dozens of threads all over the Root forum with issues trying to get RSDlite to see the phone, trying to get RSDlite to use the SBF, complicated procedures for counting characters in log files and then renaming the SBF to the precise number of characters that RSDlite is looking for...

Except the SBF files aren't released by Motorola, we have to count on illegal leaks from employees, so there are drawn out overlap periods where new releases are out but there is no SBF for recovery.

Except the leaked SBF files are followed up shortly by cease and desist letters, driving them to only be hosted on file hosting sites, and forcing users to paw through threads and links to find them.

Except RSDlite itself is great for geeks, but is hardly friendly for newbies since its feedback mechanisms are designed for developers (seeing a message like "Reboot Failed" is terrifying for most users even though it just means, "do a battery pull").

Except RSDlite has no sanity checking and so it will allow you to throw any old SBF on the phone, even if the bootloader isn't compatible and it'll soft brick the device.

Except there's no verification of when you might need to factory reset or no way to recover from a bootloop.

Simply having a mechanism for recovering the phone isn't enough. Every single phone in creation has that, it's how the manufacturers work with the phones in the development labs. You have to package it and polish it and make it easily usable.
 
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