Ditto.. would love to try a rezound for about half an hour to see the difference. Never know when its simply a Verizon issue and not the phone. My 4G connectivity driving around locally was very spotty today, and the handoffs when switching were semi ok at best. Only way I would want the rezound is if i KNEW it was going to do MUCH better on the connections. If I switch and have similar performance I'll be less than amused given how much I like the GNex hardware and esp the screen size. But today overall the ability to hold a signal was spotty, even at times the 3G signal.
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Ditto.. would love to try a rezound for about half an hour to see the difference. Never know when its simply a Verizon issue and not the phone. My 4G connectivity driving around locally was very spotty today, and the handoffs when switching were semi ok at best. Only way I would want the rezound is if i KNEW it was going to do MUCH better on the connections. If I switch and have similar performance I'll be less than amused given how much I like the GNex hardware and esp the screen size. But today overall the ability to hold a signal was spotty, even at times the 3G signal.
syntrix
Android Expert
If you didn't have signal, I can see the higher drain, as the radios would keep trying to get signal... happened on my very old 1x simple phones on CDMA VZW.
How are you getting 3G signal db's? you must have rooted or there's a program I don't know about?
It would be like trying to get a true db for 4G out of a reclowned or any other current 4G phone on VZW.
Sorry I wasn't more specific ( hey i KNEW what I meant to type!). At work I had a 3g signal the entire time as far as i know. It was a weak signal (-120db) so perhaps it was working harder to see it. As ar as how i measured the 3g signal versus 4g, 2 ways (perhaps neither is correct).. one I had switched the phone to CDMA mode only (in doing so the signal value does changes, increases slightly compared to the 4G setting). Second method was a free app called Sensorly which shows both a 3g and 4G signal value.
But driving around my local area which in general has pretty good 4G support I noticed I was 3g about half the time tonight. Phone or Verizon? Hard to say. I keep reminding myself this is a 2 year marriage for me.. I don't buy phones without contracts as in general it is just a phone. thus the phone has to be a phone first. 2nite I had some call break ups (voice0 as well as the data. wasn't disconnecting but did break up a few times.
Overall the phone I have in my area etc has been a 9.5/10 in terms of the screen, software,hardware layout, etc., neglecting the battery part but about a 4.25 in terms of being a great radio/data phone. I can work around the battery using chargers but today the battery simply stunk.
Even with a 2 yr contract this phone and accessories (case,charger,extended battery) is about $370 and that fctors in as well.. lot to pay if the phone isn't going to improve connection wise any better. becomes an expensive large screened 3g phone (reminds me of the people who bought plasma TV's 10-12 years ago.. paid $15K and no hi def channels to watch).
I do want to be clear I am really trying to keep this phone. I love the phone itself and can adapt to the battery but if I can't hold a signal any better I may have to consider the rezound. Just really wish I could try before I switched to see if it held signals any better and I don't mean number of bars, etc but rather if I had access to data better. Maybe this weekend I'll drop by Verizon and ask if I can run down the road with their store rezound.. all they can do is say no
mustardtiger
Member
I love the phone itself and can adapt to the battery but if I can't hold a signal any better I may have to consider the rezound. Just really wish I could try before I switched to see if it held signals any better and I don't mean number of bars, etc but rather if I had access to data better. Maybe this weekend I'll drop by Verizon and ask if I can run down the road with their store rezound.. all they can do is say no
Man, I hear ya. That's the exact situation I was in. Loved the Nexus, but neither unit I had worked well. The connectivity issues were making me positively crazy to the point where I was obsessing over it and I finally realized I had to move on, at least for now.
Wish I could tell you that where you live the Rezound will be an improvement, but you'll never know until you test one out; though I have a hunch it will be. In my case, even though I'm largely "meh" on the design of the Rezound, the improvement in connectivity could not be more dramatic. And don't get me wrong, the Rez is a great device, it just doesn't trip my gadget trigger the way the Nexus does. But it works...and well. Holds strong, usable signals and transitions between 4G and 3G seamlessly and without hesitation. I spent most of last weekend out and about, making test calls and browsing the web places that neither of my Nexuses could manage and never once ran into an issue. A week later, I don't even consider it anymore; I just take it for granted that it works like it should and that's the expectation I had of the Nexus.
I just couldn't make excuses for the persistent lack of usability to me any more....not that I was pleased about it. If down the road it seems these early issues are resolved via VZW network improvements and/or software updates to the phone itself, I plan to be back, provided the next latest and greatest hasn't shown up by then.
jkc120
Android Expert
Pretty much exactly my scenario as well, although for me the network/radio issues weren't as much of a problem for me. They just added to me apprehension with the device. I too have basically been trying to put the Rezound through the same situations where I noticed 4G->3G drops or data dropping entirely and have had no luck reproducing with the Rezound. At this point, it's impossible to say if I had a couple of Nexuses with bad radios or what, but as you said the difference in data connectivity is profound. Then again, I definitely miss the aesthetics of the Nexus and feel like I'm just carrying around a bigger, snappier dinc. Which isn't entirely bad since I loved my dinc. But I was hoping for a change. Unfortunately, the Nexus wasn't the phone for me. If only I could put the guts of the Rezound inside the Nexus and still have ICS
jkc120
Android Expert
Does Sensorly work for the Rezound (or other 4G gingerbread phones)? I downloaded it, and it shows two signal values, one is higher than the other and both are updating. But I wasn't sure if it's a legit 3G and 4G reading or not.
If Sensorly does show both 3G and 4G, it should be a very good apples-to-apples comparison for people wanting to compare the Nexus' 3G and 4G dBm with other 4G devices! I am going to ask a buddy of mine locally who has a Nexus to go around a few places w/me when he can and I can report in with a dBm comparison in various locations and inside/outside/etc if Sensorly can show both even on GB phones.
Does Sensorly work for the Rezound (or other 4G gingerbread phones)? I downloaded it, and it shows two signal values, one is higher than the other and both are updating. But I wasn't sure if it's a legit 3G and 4G reading or not.
If Sensorly does show both 3G and 4G, it should be a very good apples-to-apples comparison for people wanting to compare the Nexus' 3G and 4G dBm with other 4G devices! I am going to ask a buddy of mine locally who has a Nexus to go around a few places w/me when he can and I can report in with a dBm comparison in various locations and inside/outside/etc if Sensorly can show both even on GB phones.
Ill get a friend of mine with a Bionic to install it and next time Im with him Ill compare it to my GNex.
I can tell you in real world situations our phones acted almost exactly the same (I started a thread on this last night). Bionic dropped down to 3G in same spot my GNex did. I maintained sync with Google (blue bars), his Bionic did not (white bars). Only quirk with the GNex was that I made a call in that same spot and it didnt gracefully hop back into 3G, so after the call was done I was met with a bunch of no data connection messages. I didnt have him make a call to see if the same thing happens, but someone in the thread I started last night stated the Bionic sometimes has the same exact issue.
Judging from that experience I have to think, at least with my phone, its acting normally and there is just a s/w issue to take care of in regards to the voice/1x/3g/4g switchovers. If the radio was that weak I wouldnt think Id be able to pick up the 3G connection at all, but I had no problem regaining 3G once I switched Airplane mode on and then back off.
crankerchick
Android Enthusiast
I am going to put Sensorly on my husband's Thunderbolt tonight. I've been using it on my Nexus for about a week now so I don't have to switch out of LTE/CDMA mode just to compare signal values with other phones, but I've also been curious if it would report LTE strength for the other phones.
If the LTE value is lower than the 3G value, then that is a good sign.
I have noticed that Sensorly sometimes reports a value slightly different from what my phone reads in Settings > About Phone > Status.
The Rezound is a champ. I second having the radio of the Rezound in the Nexus--perfect marriage. However, apparently the Rezound is using a chip with 3G and LTE combined, but this chip is only comptabile with Snapdragon processor.
I did have the Rezound for 5 weeks and I can say without a doubt that it held LTE better than my Nexus in weak signal areas. One thing having this Nexus has shown me is that LTE and 3G aren't as strong in my area as I though. The Rezound, like was previously said, I didn't even wonder about, probably because for one, nobody was talking about how crappy it was at getting a signal, and 2, it was my first 4G phone and it seemed to behave like all of my old 3G phones in that, I wanted LTE, I turned it on, and it just worked. With the Nexus, I'm constantly comparing it to the Rezound and also just in general constantly paranoid about it because of all the talk.
My final assessment (which allows me to sleep at night), is that the Rezound is *that* good and the Nexus is no better than average among other LTE phones not including the Rezound.
If the LTE value is lower than the 3G value, then that is a good sign.
I have noticed that Sensorly sometimes reports a value slightly different from what my phone reads in Settings > About Phone > Status.
The Rezound is a champ. I second having the radio of the Rezound in the Nexus--perfect marriage. However, apparently the Rezound is using a chip with 3G and LTE combined, but this chip is only comptabile with Snapdragon processor.
I did have the Rezound for 5 weeks and I can say without a doubt that it held LTE better than my Nexus in weak signal areas. One thing having this Nexus has shown me is that LTE and 3G aren't as strong in my area as I though. The Rezound, like was previously said, I didn't even wonder about, probably because for one, nobody was talking about how crappy it was at getting a signal, and 2, it was my first 4G phone and it seemed to behave like all of my old 3G phones in that, I wanted LTE, I turned it on, and it just worked. With the Nexus, I'm constantly comparing it to the Rezound and also just in general constantly paranoid about it because of all the talk.
My final assessment (which allows me to sleep at night), is that the Rezound is *that* good and the Nexus is no better than average among other LTE phones not including the Rezound.
jkc120
Android Expert
Yes, the LTE number is definitely lower. E.g. as I was walking into work today the 3G was sitting at -57 dBm and the LTE/4G was at -72 dBm. The 4G has been 10-20 lower pretty much every time I've looked. So it appears it may be reading both.
Now to go talk to some Rezound devs to see how we can get the status bar to show the bars based on whether it's on 4G or 3G.
Sandroidfan
Android Expert
My experience agrees with this though I'm not having much reception issues. From what I see, the signal reception issue on Gnex happens mostly in radio switch over in weak areas. It seems to be slow in reconnecting to 4G sometimes, which gives the impression of weak radio combined with low LTE signal reading. But 1X phone signal seems to work even in such moment and hand over to 3G seems very quick. So it seems like software fixable.
Shockwave78
Android Enthusiast
This is what threw me over the edge on my second Nexus actually...I was on the verge of deciding to return it because of the crappy camera already. Then i went to a part of town where i would always get signal with previous phones, although it was weak, the previous phones would hold around -110db. The GN went completely dead with no signal for about a 1.5 stretch. I know this area was most likely 3g though and it tried to switch but could not find it. About 2hrs after that i returned the phone.
Even on boot up or coming out of airplane mode, the phone seems to take forever to pick up a signal. i think it was around 60-90 seconds or so.
jkc120
Android Expert
(Sorry, I just went back and this is super long. Bear with me please Or just skip to my conjectured conclusion at the bottom heh)
So I met a buddy for lunch who has the Nexus. We both fired up sensorly to compare our dBm, and not surprisingly, we were sitting at identical 3G and 4G signals within 1 dBm on the LTE side.
Initially (outside) we were both at -72 dBm 3G and I was at -102 dBm and him -103 dBm. We waited a few updates and the LTE signal was always within 5 dBm of my Rezound, though mine tended to fluctuate up while his Nexus would fluctuate down. But for the most part they were within 5 dBm of each other most of the time. I did notice that my 3G signal would say pretty consistently at -72:-75 dBm while his occasionally was as low as -89 dBm, but it was again usually very close to my Rezound.
So while we were outside, we ran a speedtest.net run (both from the same server
) and despite the same signal, my speeds were quite better. 
Rezound: 10946 kbps down, 11109 kbps up, 52 ms latency
Nexus: 9035 kbps down, 3951 kbps up, 88 ms latency
We went inside for lunch and I was going to test again, but he had no 4G signal at all. Mine was 1 bar (according to sensorly, at about -102 dBm, fluctuating as low as -110 dBm) and never dropped 4G. So I wasn't able to do a speed test on his phone. I ran one on mine and the results were still quite good, but noticeably worse inside. As for 3G signal, the rezound was hovering between -78 dBm and -85 dBm and his Nexus was fluctuating more, generally between -89 dBm and -100-ish dBm (can't remember if it was 102 or 100), but was usually down near 89. So slightly worse, but not bad. I did not run a 3G speed test comparison unfortunately, but I did run a 4G test on the rezound during this time:
Rezound: 9692 kbps down, 3666 kbps up, 88 ms latency
Nexus: no data (3G only)
Later on, I asked to look at his phone (ok, I admit, it was to fondle it. SUE ME!). And I noticed he then had 4G! It was only 1 bar and the signal was -112 dBm to -110 dBm, but it remained on 4G long enough to run a speed test. So it was about 10 dBm lower than the Rezound once it was able to get back onto 4G. So here are the speed test results inside:
Rezound: 12945 kbps down, 5158 kbps up, 70 ms latency
Nexus: 7017 kbps down, 1725 kbps up, 88 ms latency
So what are the takeaways from this? A few things:
- I do think there is a software issue causing inaccurate bars as well as premature 4G to 3G toggling.
- The Nexus signal (at least in this location) outside was nearly identical to the Rezound. This is just one data point, but I have a feeling outside radio levels will be comparable between the two.
- Where the Rezound really seems to shine is with better speeds with a low-ish signal. Even outside when both phones had -102 dBm or so, the Rezound was able to pull slightly fast download speeds, but more importantly the upload speeds were significantly better in this marginal area.
- Similarly, the Rezound seems to handle being inside this particular building (but it corroborates the results I saw in other locations and some of the other posts here) better than the Nexus. Either the signal was too faint to stay on 4G when we initially went in (though I did test 5-10 minutes after entering the building), or the software saw the signal fluctuate and decided it was time to drop to 3G. Only later when the signal stabilized did it go back to 4G.
So I think the problems some are seeing is due to a combination of two things:
1. signal level seems to fluctuate more on the Nexus' radio compared to the Rezound. I believe this is a hardware (radio) limitation, but who knows perhaps a radio firmware update can improve this.
2. software is too quick to drop from 4G to 3G. I think it's absolutely related to point 1. because if the signal fluctuates down to an "unacceptable" level (according to the software), it drops to 3G, even though it may still be capable of holding onto 4G.
I think item 1. can be worked around by fiddling with the tolerance for these fluctuations or only toggling when the fluctuations remain below the threshold for X number of samples per T period rather than as soon as a sample dips below the threshold. And if the radio can be stabilized a bit, issue 2 may be a non-issue or only happen in very marginal signal areas.
Overall, at least based on what I saw today and some of the other reports, it looks to me like people in strong signal areas won't have the issue, as the fluctuations won't bring it below the software's toggle threshold, while people in weaker signal areas will see 4G to 3G toggles more often. Obviously, this is all conjecture based on the data I've seen so far, but I think the chances are very good this can be improved significantly (though maybe not 100%) with some radio firmware updates and/or software tweaks.
Or just skip to my conjectured conclusion at the bottom heh)So I met a buddy for lunch who has the Nexus. We both fired up sensorly to compare our dBm, and not surprisingly, we were sitting at identical 3G and 4G signals within 1 dBm on the LTE side.
Initially (outside) we were both at -72 dBm 3G and I was at -102 dBm and him -103 dBm. We waited a few updates and the LTE signal was always within 5 dBm of my Rezound, though mine tended to fluctuate up while his Nexus would fluctuate down. But for the most part they were within 5 dBm of each other most of the time. I did notice that my 3G signal would say pretty consistently at -72:-75 dBm while his occasionally was as low as -89 dBm, but it was again usually very close to my Rezound.
So while we were outside, we ran a speedtest.net run (both from the same server
) and despite the same signal, my speeds were quite better. Rezound: 10946 kbps down, 11109 kbps up, 52 ms latency
Nexus: 9035 kbps down, 3951 kbps up, 88 ms latency
We went inside for lunch and I was going to test again, but he had no 4G signal at all. Mine was 1 bar (according to sensorly, at about -102 dBm, fluctuating as low as -110 dBm) and never dropped 4G. So I wasn't able to do a speed test on his phone. I ran one on mine and the results were still quite good, but noticeably worse inside. As for 3G signal, the rezound was hovering between -78 dBm and -85 dBm and his Nexus was fluctuating more, generally between -89 dBm and -100-ish dBm (can't remember if it was 102 or 100), but was usually down near 89. So slightly worse, but not bad. I did not run a 3G speed test comparison unfortunately, but I did run a 4G test on the rezound during this time:
Rezound: 9692 kbps down, 3666 kbps up, 88 ms latency
Nexus: no data (3G only)
Later on, I asked to look at his phone (ok, I admit, it was to fondle it. SUE ME!). And I noticed he then had 4G! It was only 1 bar and the signal was -112 dBm to -110 dBm, but it remained on 4G long enough to run a speed test. So it was about 10 dBm lower than the Rezound once it was able to get back onto 4G. So here are the speed test results inside:
Rezound: 12945 kbps down, 5158 kbps up, 70 ms latency
Nexus: 7017 kbps down, 1725 kbps up, 88 ms latency
So what are the takeaways from this? A few things:
- I do think there is a software issue causing inaccurate bars as well as premature 4G to 3G toggling.
- The Nexus signal (at least in this location) outside was nearly identical to the Rezound. This is just one data point, but I have a feeling outside radio levels will be comparable between the two.
- Where the Rezound really seems to shine is with better speeds with a low-ish signal. Even outside when both phones had -102 dBm or so, the Rezound was able to pull slightly fast download speeds, but more importantly the upload speeds were significantly better in this marginal area.
- Similarly, the Rezound seems to handle being inside this particular building (but it corroborates the results I saw in other locations and some of the other posts here) better than the Nexus. Either the signal was too faint to stay on 4G when we initially went in (though I did test 5-10 minutes after entering the building), or the software saw the signal fluctuate and decided it was time to drop to 3G. Only later when the signal stabilized did it go back to 4G.
So I think the problems some are seeing is due to a combination of two things:
1. signal level seems to fluctuate more on the Nexus' radio compared to the Rezound. I believe this is a hardware (radio) limitation, but who knows perhaps a radio firmware update can improve this.
2. software is too quick to drop from 4G to 3G. I think it's absolutely related to point 1. because if the signal fluctuates down to an "unacceptable" level (according to the software), it drops to 3G, even though it may still be capable of holding onto 4G.
I think item 1. can be worked around by fiddling with the tolerance for these fluctuations or only toggling when the fluctuations remain below the threshold for X number of samples per T period rather than as soon as a sample dips below the threshold. And if the radio can be stabilized a bit, issue 2 may be a non-issue or only happen in very marginal signal areas.
Overall, at least based on what I saw today and some of the other reports, it looks to me like people in strong signal areas won't have the issue, as the fluctuations won't bring it below the software's toggle threshold, while people in weaker signal areas will see 4G to 3G toggles more often. Obviously, this is all conjecture based on the data I've seen so far, but I think the chances are very good this can be improved significantly (though maybe not 100%) with some radio firmware updates and/or software tweaks.
ska.t73
Android Expert
I'm not having any signal issues (I live in a strong 4G area in Phoenix), however I just want to applaud jkc120 for the research he is putting into this. He doesn't even own the phone anymore and he is trying to help others who have this issue (mainly because he is jealous and wants the phone again ). Your post was most excelent and points to what I think we all have felt for a while now, the problems seem to stem from the 4G signal and how the software handles the handoff to 3G.
Good job.
). Your post was most excelent and points to what I think we all have felt for a while now, the problems seem to stem from the 4G signal and how the software handles the handoff to 3G.Good job.
jkc120
Android Expert
(mainly because he is jealous and wants the phone again
LOL, It really is a nice phone. I do miss a lot about it.
Glad I can help in some way. I really think the people who are experiencing some of these symptoms will see some good improvement. Unfortunately, there is no guarantee and 1/15 is coming soon. Let's just say if my only issue with the phone were the radio thing, I would probably hold out for a fix. I wasn't convinced before, but after seeing the "issue" first hand when another recent 4G phone was there, I think it's fixable, at least mostly.
Unfortunately my friend would not let me take his Nexus with me to do similar testing in other locations. How dare he!
syntrix
Android Expert
Installed sensorly on my Bionic, no towers in my area.
Let me know if it works in your area, and if everything is still good on your phone. Try to uninstall it, reboot and see if you have data.
I think someone here installed opensignal or something else, and they could not get data back after uninstalling the app.
Let me know if it works in your area, and if everything is still good on your phone. Try to uninstall it, reboot and see if you have data.
I think someone here installed opensignal or something else, and they could not get data back after uninstalling the app.
crankerchick
Android Enthusiast
(Sorry, I just went back and this is super long. Bear with me please
Overall, at least based on what I saw today and some of the other reports, it looks to me like people in strong signal areas won't have the issue, as the fluctuations won't bring it below the software's toggle threshold, while people in weaker signal areas will see 4G to 3G toggles more often. Obviously, this is all conjecture based on the data I've seen so far, but I think the chances are very good this can be improved significantly (though maybe not 100%) with some radio firmware updates and/or software tweaks.
Thanks for posting your test data. You are typing exactly what I've been seeing and saying with my comparison of the Rezound I had at first and the Nexus I have now. The Rezound would keep the LTE signal in weak placeswhere the Nexus toggles to 3G, either due to thresholds, instability, or poor reception. That's how I've been feeling all along. Poor reception by way of interference, poor SNR, or poor antenna design, placement, or orientation would be a hardware problem, but the others can be addressed or mitigated in software. As I no longer have a Rezound to compare side by side, I've always felt that the Nexus receive strength is on par with other phones, it's just how other phones handle the signal compared the Nexus. In general, I think the Nexus is just average, while the Rezound is exceptional. With the same received signal strength, it holds the weak signal better. It took looks to me to be more software related which gives hope that it might be improved with a radio update. I just don't think it is design at this point. I guess time will tell.
Also, someone mentioned OpenSignalMaps. I used that prior to Sensorly and while it is the only other app out of all the ones I tried, and I tried many, to report the LTE properly on the Nexus, (the others report +85 dBm and claim its a Samsung bug), it seems to drain way more battery than Sensorly in my experience.
I have G Nex now, testing it, comparing it...and jkc120's post describes my experiences to a tee. In my apt...running speeds tests...I'm lucky to get 200...kbps...down...lol. I was able to get 4G by the window with my RAZR twice...have yet to see 4G on my G Nex.
I have a RAZR too...and the wild part is for phone reception the G Nex is doing better than I expected. Its the data reception thats hurting it. I stayed away from Samsung for years just based on phone reception. The G Nex phone reception gives me hope for using their phones again. And hopes that if its software it can be fixed. If its hardware....oh well. But I will at least try their phones again.
I should mention that for some reason when I tried speed tests in very weak reception areas...it gave me servers in PA and MA. I live in the DC. MD, VA area. That has never happened on my RAZR, Droid 1 or Droid X1.
I have a RAZR too...and the wild part is for phone reception the G Nex is doing better than I expected. Its the data reception thats hurting it. I stayed away from Samsung for years just based on phone reception. The G Nex phone reception gives me hope for using their phones again. And hopes that if its software it can be fixed. If its hardware....oh well. But I will at least try their phones again.
I should mention that for some reason when I tried speed tests in very weak reception areas...it gave me servers in PA and MA. I live in the DC. MD, VA area. That has never happened on my RAZR, Droid 1 or Droid X1.
Its now January 7th, and I have had more than a few days now since starting this thread to experiment more and more with the phone.
One side note, I have had much better battery life lately. I have have taken all suggested steps and kept wi-fi on, auto screen, and cdma only most times. Plenty of juice to do my things throughout the day.
Now to connectivity. I have been able to connect whenever I have needed to for the most part. I mainly use 3g because most times it is plenty fast, and far more reliable. And yes there are issues as everyone has stated at length about it taking forever to switch back and forth between 4g-3g-wifi....in any order, and then the gray bars verse blue bars, and then the periodic, but more rare, times of no connectivity.
Does anyone else have a hard time figuring out which way is up with this phone. Its so symmetrical that I always have to stop for a second to figure out which side the power button is on so I know if its upside down or not. I always thought that was a plus with the razr having that hump at the top for orientation purposes.
Im leaning towards keeping it mainly because of that wonderful time i remember when I used to get done eating that ice cream sandwich my grandma gave me, and when I was done, I would have that little bit left on the ends of all my fingers, and I would lick lick lick.... thats how much I like this ice cream sandwich, I could never go back to hard stale cookies now!!!
One side note, I have had much better battery life lately. I have have taken all suggested steps and kept wi-fi on, auto screen, and cdma only most times. Plenty of juice to do my things throughout the day.
Now to connectivity. I have been able to connect whenever I have needed to for the most part. I mainly use 3g because most times it is plenty fast, and far more reliable. And yes there are issues as everyone has stated at length about it taking forever to switch back and forth between 4g-3g-wifi....in any order, and then the gray bars verse blue bars, and then the periodic, but more rare, times of no connectivity.
Does anyone else have a hard time figuring out which way is up with this phone. Its so symmetrical that I always have to stop for a second to figure out which side the power button is on so I know if its upside down or not. I always thought that was a plus with the razr having that hump at the top for orientation purposes.
Im leaning towards keeping it mainly because of that wonderful time i remember when I used to get done eating that ice cream sandwich my grandma gave me, and when I was done, I would have that little bit left on the ends of all my fingers, and I would lick lick lick.... thats how much I like this ice cream sandwich, I could never go back to hard stale cookies now!!!
Sandroidfan
Android Expert
Appreciate time/effort jkc120 put into investigating nexus signal reception. Seems to make sense to me. For me, phone/3G reception has been fine and reliable. But hope 4G connectiviy outside good areas will get better with updates and verizon improving LTE network.
Samsung used s3 snapdragon + mdm9600 chips in LTE SGSII just like Rezound and it seems to work well. Kudos to Qualcomm for makinig good chips for LTE. But Google selected OMAP4 as reference processor for ICS, so samsung had to use their LTE chip. It seems to work well in charge now after GB update.
Samsung used s3 snapdragon + mdm9600 chips in LTE SGSII just like Rezound and it seems to work well. Kudos to Qualcomm for makinig good chips for LTE. But Google selected OMAP4 as reference processor for ICS, so samsung had to use their LTE chip. It seems to work well in charge now after GB update.
The 2.3 update definitely made a difference with the Droid Charge and that is why I think/hope that a software update for the Nexus will help.
"Does anyone else have a hard time figuring out which way is up with this phone." Yes, I never knew the value of the Motorola "bump" until the GN. Also, why did they put buttons on both long sides of the phone?? I set it landscape to watch a video and it always messes with the volume!
The funny thing is, that despite the issue with the phone's inability to hold on to a meaningful signal in marginal areas where the Rezound could, I find this to be the most trouble-free phone I've ever had.
I have not had so much as a hiccup with this phone. No crashes, no reboots, no overheating, great battery life (better than the Razr I tried), great screen and just an overall great phone experience.
I had tried the Razr for a couple of weeks, but the Nexus has it all over the Razr. Even where I was expecting the Razr's radio to trump the Nexus's radio, it never happened. There was absolutely no meaningful difference between the two radios. The only radio that clearly stood out was the Rezound, but the Rezound 'experience' was not in the same league as the Nexus.
These comments are from someone that was pretty critical of the Nexus' reception issues. But the more you use the phone, the more you're enthusiasm grows.
I have not had so much as a hiccup with this phone. No crashes, no reboots, no overheating, great battery life (better than the Razr I tried), great screen and just an overall great phone experience.
I had tried the Razr for a couple of weeks, but the Nexus has it all over the Razr. Even where I was expecting the Razr's radio to trump the Nexus's radio, it never happened. There was absolutely no meaningful difference between the two radios. The only radio that clearly stood out was the Rezound, but the Rezound 'experience' was not in the same league as the Nexus.
These comments are from someone that was pretty critical of the Nexus' reception issues. But the more you use the phone, the more you're enthusiasm grows.