LA isn't looking so good right now.

[zoiko]

A screenprinter, huh? We also do that kind of work, but highly specialized and a tad more dangerous than shirt printing.

I might ask you about the new laws. Seems reasonable to have a fire sprinkler or other supression system in my shop and if there are no laws that mandate it, chances are, people would not put one in place. Just asking.

Diddo the potential laws governing inks. We use inks that will definately damage you if you breath them.

Just curious.

Bob Maxey

Yeah I agree that a fire suppression system would be a good thing but not if I have to pay $7000.00 for it. Plus they are asking for a two year lease, there is a shop in the same area in a similar building as I will be getting and they do not have a fire sprinkler system and is also owned and managed by the same company.

What kind of printing you guys do ??? I used to own L&S safety glass and we used to manufacture windshields and also print the inside of the windshields ( inside black trim )with some dangerous inks. That was a really good business until NAFTA came along and messed that up.

So now I am a T-Shirt printer making a lot less $$$ but a lot less headaches and stress.

 

[Vihzel]

LOL and Gawd Allmighty . . . Look who the NP commettie gave prizes to in recent years. Still want use the winning of an NP as the gold standard?. . . Still laughing

Bob Maxey

Are you seriously denouncing the significance and honor of winning a Nobel Prize? Are you just looking at the Nobel Peace Prize?

There are:

Nobel Prize in Physics
Nobel Prize in Chemistry
Nobel Prize in Medicine
Nobel Prize in Literature
Nobel Peace Prize
Prize in Economic Sciences

Which winners do you have problems with? Obama and Gore? If that's it, then that's definitely not enough considering that there are a lot more winners than that in a single year. Again... generalization.

 

[bbrosen]

I was out in california where i hear they got it all..
They got rides, slides and mudslides, they got sushi in the mall. Water bars and brontosaurs, Chinese modern lust, shake and bake right with the quake, the secrets in the crust....

Jimmy Buffet

 

[zoiko]

I was out in california where i hear they got it all..
They got rides, slides and mudslides, they got sushi in the mall. Water bars and brontosaurs, Chinese modern lust, shake and bake right with the quake, the secrets in the crust....

Jimmy Buffet

... Yep we got it all. but where I live it get's HOT!!!

 

[Vihzel]

... Yep we got it all. but where I live it get's HOT!!!

What I really love about CA is its immense diversity that is unmatchable versus other states. You can live in hot weather, cold weather, and mild weather all year round. You can live in the desert, the big cities, the wilderness, by the beach (your pick along the Pacific Coast), and other areas. You can do this... you can do that... it's all in CA. I especially love SoCal because you really don't have to leave it since it has everything. In terms of top universities... SoCal has a lot of them: UCLA, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, USC, McKenna, Harvey Mudd, Pepperdine, and others. There are some really amazing cities to raise children in... one of them is my hometown of Northridge. It's the picturesque perfect suburb where it the neighborhoods look flawless. Aside from the public higher education problems... there are some fantastic high schools also.

I will hopefully settle back in SoCal. I can't stand the freezing winters here in Indiana. My ideal location is by the beach. I love the beach! Any state that doesn't have a nice variety of beaches (real ones... not ones on lakes), then count me out.

 

[Bob Maxey]

Are you seriously denouncing the significance and honor of winning a Nobel Prize? Are you just looking at the Nobel Peace Prize?

There are:

Nobel Prize in Physics
Nobel Prize in Chemistry
Nobel Prize in Medicine
Nobel Prize in Literature
Nobel Peace Prize
Prize in Economic Sciences

Which winners do you have problems with? Obama and Gore? If that's it, then that's definitely not enough considering that there are a lot more winners than that in a single year. Again... generalization.

I am saying when Al Gore and President Obama can win the prize; the award has lost some of its shine. Kind of like every kid wining a sports award for trying their best and failing to sink the eight ball.

Truly means zero when the idea is to win. Sorry parents on the list with kids, but

 

[EarlyMon]

My ideal location is by the beach. I love the beach! Any state that doesn't have a nice variety of beaches (real ones... not ones on lakes), then count me out.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

In New Mexico, we've got more beach than California can imagine.

The ocean receded some millions of years ago, but you want beach, we got beach.

Oh - and Californians and Texans. We've got lots of those, too.

Everyone's welcome in New Mexico.

We even have a saying - if you get New Mexico sand in your shoes, it's a sign you'll be back.

 

[EarlyMon]

I would guess that California and Massachusetts lead the nation in innovations and in Nobel laureates.

You're probably right.

All we ever did in New Mexico was incubate Microsoft and invent the atom bomb. We're probably known for some other unimportant technical stuff, too.

Seriously tho, yeah, California and Massachusetts probably lead the nation in innovations - if you narrow your claim to relatively small geographic pockets in each and especially if you believe that ideas in those places didn't come from a relatively small number of outstanding individuals proportionate to those states' overall populations - as is true worldwide.

In my opinion.

 

[Benjie]

Do not blame the politicians, blame the people that keep putting them back in office. As for leading the nation in innovation - how to go broke and not admit it.

When California goes broke, why should I, 2,500 miles west of them, have to contribute because of their stupidity.

 

[EarlyMon]

Do not blame the politicians, blame the people that keep putting them back in office. As for leading the nation in innovation - how to go broke and not admit it.

When California goes broke, why should I, 2,500 miles west of them, have to contribute because of their stupidity.

National and state economies are in crisis and the robber politicians are slurping at the trough.

If you live in a state whose lawmakers exhibit self-control and wisdom, pinch yourself and count your blessings that your electorate is so enlightened.

 

[byteware]

When were we talking about the innovation of the citizens? Nobody is arguing that CA citizens are worth more or somehow better than anyone else. He is simply pointing this out because somehow people seem to think that California citizens deserve to burn.

I don't think that was the intent of the posts at all.

I think the message was, California deserves the politicians they elected.

That's true of any state, and the nation as well.

However, I think that California has a habit of electing politicians who are "Activists" and who tend to do more harm than good to the state.

I mean, when you have a government actively stealing from it's constituency... something's wrong. If heads don't roll during election time, then something is REALLY wrong.

 

[byteware]

Speaking of innovation, a total of 56 faculty and researchers affiliated with the University of California have won 57 Nobel Prizes, including 24 prizes since 1995.

And that's just one university in California. I wonder how many Nobel laureates in total call California home?

How many faculty members and researchers affiliated with the University of Alabama are Nobel laureates? How many Nobel laureates call Alabama home?

I would guess that California and Massachusetts lead the nation in innovations and in Nobel laureates.

We've got 9 that have been awarded to Alabamians... so that's a higher per capita than California.

If only California could do as good a job educating their students as Alabama, maybe one day they could reach the same achievement...

 

[byteware]

What I really love about CA is its immense diversity that is unmatchable versus other states.

Almost... Hawaii's got you beat.

Hawaii has everything from Snow Skiing to surfing. From deserts to rain forests. Every type of ecosystem exists in the Hawaiian Islands.

 

[Vihzel]

If only California could do as good a job educating their students as Alabama, maybe one day they could reach the same achievement...

There are good universities in Alabama?

I know that CA has the best collection of top universities:

UC Berkeley
UC LA
UC San Diego
UC Irvine
UC Santa Barbara
UC Davis
Stanford
CIT (on the level of MIT)
USC
Claremont McKenna
Harvey Mudd
Pomona College
Scripps College
Occidental College
Pitzer College
Pepperdine - Rank #53
Cal State Polytechnic - San Luis Obispo - #6 in Regional

Everything in bold are universities and liberal arts colleges in the Top 50 in their respective categories.

 

[EarlyMon]

I dunno about universities, but I think Alabama has more bubbas than California.

I think that diversity counts in a body politic more than academic credentials.

You must agree to some point, as you're evidently going to school in Indiana.

I think maybe you're just homesick?

 

[Vihzel]

I dunno about universities, but I think Alabama has more bubbas than California.

I think that diversity counts in a body politic more than academic credentials.

You must agree to some point, as you're evidently going to school in Indiana.

I think maybe you're just homesick?

I'm in CA right now, so I'm definitely not homesick. I don't exactly understand what you mean by "more bubbas" and "body politic".

I was strictly talking about education in this case. It also depends on which field that you want to study in, but those rankings are based on just National rankings. I'm at IU studying Environmental Management, French, and Italian. It's essentially #1 in environmental studies and it's FRIT department is very, very strong in its field. If I didn't decide to go to IU, I would be studying at UC Berkeley most likely.

 

[EarlyMon]

I'm in CA right now, so I'm definitely not homesick. I don't exactly understand what you mean by "more bubbas" and "body politic".

A bubba is a term used to described a particular archetype of good-natured Southern male.

The body politic is all of us in America.

I was strictly talking about education in this case. It also depends on which field that you want to study in, but those rankings are based on just National rankings. I'm at IU studying Environmental Management, French, and Italian. It's essentially #1 in environmental studies and it's FRIT department is very, very strong in its field. If I didn't decide to go to IU, I would be studying at UC Berkeley most likely.

As one component of education is enculturation and this is over-arching to every field of study, I thought my comment was on-topic in a bigger-picture sense.

I wasn't disputing that some states have better universities (as rated for specific fields) or that some might have fewer but still have quality.

CA has a large population, a large agricultural base, the movie industry, silicon valley and important sea ports. It's naturally going to have a tax base that others cannot match and that should reflect in its universities.

And with its electoral college and members of the House of Congress, a state with 12% of the population is going to have the clout to protect its political interests - more so than less populous states.

No state exists in a vacuum - each exists within the fabric of the US.

Hence - I don't think CA has as many bubbas as AL.

And I wasn't implying hypocrisy in attending in IN - I was implying what you confirmed - diversity is good in education and no state has the lock for every student, if means allow the student to study out of state.

 

[jamor]

Really? You guys are basing how good/cool your states are based on nobels?

LOL.

And I thought I was a dork! This brings a whole new meaning to nerdom.

 

[jamor]

California is a cool state. But I fear it won't be for long.

It has one downfall.. Illegal Mexican Immigrants are taking it over.

They are even eligible for in-state tuition in California.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/15/court-rules-illegal-immigrants-can-get-in-state-tuition/

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigrationnaturalizatio/a/caillegals.htm

 

[byteware]

I dunno about universities, but I think Alabama has more bubbas than California.

I think that diversity counts in a body politic more than academic credentials.

You must agree to some point, as you're evidently going to school in Indiana.

I think maybe you're just homesick?

My senior year of high school, I worked with a guy called Bubba. It was right there on his name tag...

I asked him if that was really his name, he said no...

His name was some ridiculously long rich sounding name... the fourth.

Which is interesting, because I have a long rich sounding name... the third, but his was even longer than mine... and of course he was the fourth.

 

[byteware]

A bubba is a term used to described a particular archetype of good-natured Southern male.

Hence - I don't think CA has as many bubbas as AL.

Why would California have southern males? Aside from me for a short period of time...?

 

[jamor]

My state is better then yours.

 

[EarlyMon]

Why would California have southern males? Aside from me for a short period of time...?

My point is precisely that they don't.

And I made it in context of the idea that an overarching value of education is enculturation.

Rating universities implies value - but I think that we best not forget that one component of enculturation is not only accepting foreign cultures and foreign languages, but also remembering to accept the great diversity that is America.

State (fill in the blank) might have great (fill in the blank) but it will always lack this (fill in the blank) component of the great State of (fill in the blank with another state).

I thought that remembering that might level thinking - much as the Senate levels the influence of Congress.

 

[EarlyMon]

California is a cool state. But I fear it won't be for long.

It has one downfall.. Illegal Mexican Immigrants are taking it over.

<sigh>

My full response to this entire subject will be to agree to disagree in advance, and nothing more.

My state is better then yours.

What? The state of Planet Earth?

Yes - quite possibly that's absolutely correct, from a certain point of view.

Do you get many illegal Mexican aliens in Planet Earth?

 

[tylerdurdin]

When everyone feels like jumping ship from the morally and financially bankrupt state of California you can come on over to New York we will make you feel right at home.