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ZMAX4EVER said:
It sounds like a good idea, but Microsoft would need a miracle to make any type of meaningful impact within the phone market. Most people I know actually hate Windows as an OS, I'm not sure if they want to deal with it on their phone as well. Windows Mobile was a disaster, Windows Phone was a disaster... so we'll see if this new incarnation has any impact.
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Maybe I'm a weirdo for this but I liked using Windows Mobile 6 / 6.5 on my Tilt and Tilt 2. It was dead easy to navigate since everything was set up like desktop Windows, plus there were plenty of apps of all kinds at the time.
 
Possible solution, but it's scattergun... and too numerous to detail.

Firstly, going thru some other forums, for HTC... someone reported they completely disabled Doze(app by app - the only way when not rooted) and didn't lose too much time between charges: from 6 hours down to 5.

Yesterday i went through all system(mainly) apps that could have anything to do with Data. Wound up with 60 Doze-disabled - 59 others in addition to the modem thingie.
Alas, still lost connection more than a handful times- including once during a Google Maps trek, another stubbornly upon reboot.
So I went back and disabled a lot more system processes - including things that deal with alarm, notifications, location, Bluetooth, processor, ram, lockscreen, fingerprint, calls, messaging, volume, sync, etc... plus Google stuff-services, framework, etc... and stock apps that communicate with web and / or have acted buggy and/or help wake up phone to connect to web...
I didn't touch processes that can't really help - wifi for example.
I must have a couple hundred off Doze.

Passing the 12 hour mark everything OK, but too early to tell for sure.

Don't worry, you won't break anything. You lose maybe 15% battery life...and at worst you could suffer a significant memory leak with any app not properly recoded for Doze - look with suspicion at anything not updated in over a year.
You can always reset ALL app defaults with a single tap.

In my opinion Google pulled a Microsoft - Doze didn't improve battery life all that much, made it almost impossible to disable & hid most its settings, plus a lot of independent apps(including carrier) have problems with it.

I'll keep updating results, and if i get another disconnect - will look to see what else can be disabled.
But it's looking encouraging. For example, upon waking up, the latest emails are waiting in Notifications - instead of the phone being without a signal.
 
horsecharles said:
Possible solution, but it's scattergun... and too numerous to detail.

Firstly, going thru some other forums, for HTC... someone reported they completely disabled Doze(app by app - the only way when not rooted) and didn't lose too much time between charges: from 6 hours down to 5.

Yesterday i went through all system(mainly) apps that could have anything to do with Data. Wound up with 60 Doze-disabled - 59 others in addition to the modem thingie.
Alas, still lost connection more than a handful times- including once during a Google Maps trek, another stubbornly upon reboot.
So I went back and disabled a lot more system processes - including things that deal with alarm, notifications, location, Bluetooth, processor, ram, lockscreen, fingerprint, calls, messaging, volume, sync, etc... plus Google stuff-services, framework, etc... and stock apps that communicate with web and / or have acted buggy and/or help wake up phone to connect to web...
I didn't touch processes that can't really help - wifi for example.
I must have a couple hundred off Doze.

Passing the 12 hour mark everything OK, but too early to tell for sure.

Don't worry, you won't break anything. You lose maybe 15% battery life...and at worst you could suffer a significant memory leak with any app not properly recoded for Doze - look with suspicion at anything not updated in over a year.
You can always reset ALL app defaults with a single tap.

In my opinion Google pulled a Microsoft - Doze didn't improve battery life all that much, made it almost impossible to disable & hid most its settings, plus a lot of independent apps(including carrier) have problems with it.

I'll keep updating results, and if i get another disconnect - will look to see what else can be disabled.
But it's looking encouraging. For example, upon waking up, the latest emails are waiting in Notifications - instead of the phone being without a signal.
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I'll be trying this out later today. Really sucks when you're trying to impress someone with an awesome looking phone without data!!!
 
One more disconnect right after placing phone upside down. Which reminds me something I forgot to mention the other day - could be gyroscope gone haywire... Maybe in pocket it thinks it's upside down, just like rotation sometimes is off, say when you lean sideways in the train, bend over, etc.
 
Good results so far.
I am ensuring to keep phone in pocket antenna up And @ front pocket facing outward / back pocket inward... so when sitting down the front is not upside down.
In case of antenna placement or gyro issues...
 
Almost ready to consider this solved, as everything fine thru waking up, in n out of subways, in n out of big skyscrapers.

Battery life - after constant use from 845am@100% thru 115pm@55%
 
Advice:

Anyone having constant disconnects: exchange your phone. I personally know four other people who have this phone and none of us have had a single issue. This doesn't appear to be a problem with all the phones. Rather than jump through hoops trying to enable/disable apps.... just get a replacement phone. Problem solved.
 
ZMAX4EVER said:
Advice:

Anyone having constant disconnects: exchange your phone. I personally know four other people who have this phone and none of us have had a single issue. This doesn't appear to be a problem with all the phones. Rather than jump through hoops trying to enable/disable apps.... just get a replacement phone. Problem solved.
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It could be something as simple as the setting - end call by turning phone over.., which I don't wish to disable.
Not everything everyone's enduring - from fingerprints to lock screen to what have you is getting fixed.
6 of 1, half a dozen... Without Root, it's a heartache.
Factory resets, reinstalls, remember app passwords, forget to backup something / lose forever... what else am I leaving out... Oh yeah, waiting for phone to arrive...

Anyhow, I'm going to disable Doze for everything,,, and Greenify myself.
 
So far so good. Disabled everything and no disconnects. I was thinking about exchanging it but how easy is it to do? Do you have to prove that it has a problem? And if so how do you prove it since the issue is random. Would like to have a handset that works without having to tweak it.
 
Horsecharles...

Maybe you should just buy a totally different phone. I think you suffer from a rare ZMAX curse. Haha. Like I said, I have four friends who bought this phone the same week that I did. None of us are experiencing any of the issues you mentioned. So, apparently those problems are not inherent to all of the phones. Perhaps you can call MetroPCS and arrange for you to return it to a store or exchange it for a other phone.

Sorry to hear that some people are having issues. It's a great phone.
 
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yknujssab said:
So far so good. Disabled everything and no disconnects. I was thinking about exchanging it but how easy is it to do? Do you have to prove that it has a problem? And if so how do you prove it since the issue is random. Would like to have a handset that works without having to tweak it.
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No, I don't think you'd have to prove anything if you're returning it to a store. Just tell them there are frequent disconnects. I'm sure they'd be willing to exchange.
 
yknujssab said:
So far so good. Disabled everything and no disconnects. I was thinking about exchanging it but how easy is it to do? Do you have to prove that it has a problem? And if so how do you prove it since the issue is random. Would like to have a handset that works without having to tweak it.
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That's a LOT of work. I just had one, no big deal. I'm staying put until / if I get another one.
 
ZMAX4EVER said:
Horsecharles...

Maybe you should just buy a totally different phone. I think you suffer from a rare ZMAX curse. Haha. Like I said, I have four friends who bought this phone the same week that I did. None of us are experiencing any of the issues you mentioned. So, apparently those problems are not inherent to all of the phones. Perhaps you can call MetroPCS and arrange for you to return it to a store or exchange it for a other phone.

Sorry to hear that some people are having issues. It's a great phone.
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It's almost cured, knock on wood.
 
yknujssab said:
So far so good. Disabled everything and no disconnects. I was thinking about exchanging it but how easy is it to do? Do you have to prove that it has a problem? And if so how do you prove it since the issue is random. Would like to have a handset that works without having to tweak it.
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I'd be curious to know if you end up with absolutely zero disconnects and no memory leaks for awhile.
Then I'll take the time to disable everything.
Thanks.
 
A little something different to report.

1. I just followed yknujssab lead and Doze-disabled almost everything(underwent a handful disconnects back 2 back while browsing multiple tabs).

PING IS ON STEROIDS(mid to high 20's, before: mid 30's to mid 40's)...zero tweaks, zero cleans.
Immediately latency has improved by leaps N bounds- all websites are reached much faster... especially a couple overseas that always took forever both to load n to surf within(no amount of cache clearing, etc. ever fixed).

2. Folio Case - just noticed that in-pocket case opens enough to trigger lockscreen on, then case cover recloses... repeatedly.
When Lockscreen on, it keeps telling the case cover that its fingerprint not recognized, then to wait xx seconds before retrying...
After so much of this screen or phone locks up...
 
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I went for a day and a half with having to toggle data only once. Later today, every other time I woke my phone up I've had to toggle.... I have wondered if the Bluetooth being on, or the BT devices I use regularly trigger something. Maybe wifi.

Another experiment: I ripped the folio case off this time. Going case-less for a day or so, we'll see how this plays out.

Perhaps magnetometer or the folio magnet is causing this issue. I don't remember having too many issues before using the magnetic folio case.

HORSE SHIT...

Next comes exchanging this thing. I hope the store itself honors this, as I ordered mine online on the night they became available.

Honestly I'd rather exchange this phone than have to un-doze everything. Death before inconvenience.
 
Spec2nirvash said:
I went for a day and a half with having to toggle data only once. Later today, every other time I woke my phone up I've had to toggle.... I have wondered if the Bluetooth being on, or the BT devices I use regularly trigger something. Maybe wifi.

Another experiment: I ripped the folio case off this time. Going case-less for a day or so, we'll see how this plays out.

Perhaps magnetometer or the folio magnet is causing this issue. I don't remember having too many issues before using the magnetic folio case.

HORSE SHIT...

Next comes exchanging this thing. I hope the store itself honors this, as I ordered mine online on the night they became available.

Honestly I'd rather exchange this phone than have to un-doze everything. Death before inconvenience.
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Yeah, in the same boat as you.
This suckers you in - a day or two OK, then out of the blue - back to back to back as you surf.
Now is the first time, after a round of clubbing.
I don't have anything of significance left to disable from Doze, so upon the next multiple disconnects I will exchange.

I could overlook this IF somehow it auto-switched to 3/2G so no calls / messages got missed.

Otherwise it's great - speeds over 100, pings in the twenties, excellent tether(I'm without WiFi often)...
Battery at 89% after 7.5 hours - took some pictures n video at the club, traveled by Google Maps... this with Doze practically disabled...
 
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ZMAX4EVER will sure be glad to see us exchange phones. :p

I actually have a small perverse wish to receive a replacement with the same problems, just to, you know - o_O:mad::confused::rolleyes:
 
So far so good.
Hopefully at least, even if problem not solved - something else prevents a complete sleep / or then wakes up.
Although doesn't explain cutoff during surfing. Maybe ZTE overdid big settings, & it's getting overwhelmed.

Spec2nirvash, not so sure re magnet... I put up with quite a bit /postponed the exchange in order to not mess up getting the free case... seemed a lot better in the picture.

ZMAX4EVER, just kidding brother.
 
I thought it would be a long shot, not even. Phone is still doing the same old thing.

If it were just lost data that would be one thing. Today marked the seventh time my wife tried calling me, phone right next to me, with full service, and goes right to voicemail. 7 times where it was actually important. I can't do this.

Last attempt. Gonna cloud my photos and try a factory reset. I'll know by the end of the day if that fixes it. If not, to MetroPCS I go. Only I'm gonna try to trade up for a Stylo 2 or a K10, even if it means I have to pay a few bucks extra. LG phones blow but not as bad as this one has for me, and I have a feeling that a Nougat update is only gonna bring more headaches :(
 
Spec2nirvash said:
I thought it would be a long shot, not even. Phone is still doing the same old thing.

If it were just lost data that would be one thing. Today marked the seventh time my wife tried calling me, phone right next to me, with full service, and goes right to voicemail. 7 times where it was actually important. I can't do this.

Last attempt. Gonna cloud my photos and try a factory reset. I'll know by the end of the day if that fixes it. If not, to MetroPCS I go. Only I'm gonna try to trade up for a Stylo 2 or a K10, even if it means I have to pay a few bucks extra. LG phones blow but not as bad as this one has for me, and I have a feeling that a Nougat update is only gonna bring more headaches :(
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Fyi
As a bare trade up WITHIN 90 days, you'd be charged based on suggested retail price, not the promo pricing.
Hopefully you're paying insurance, or will sign up prior to exchanging.

And if you need to, point them to this thread and the other independent one in these forums.

PS I just had a disconnect... Averaging one per day. Two days ago one call where the callee could not hear me.

And I've toggled on/off the Qualcomm Izat Advanced Location.
 
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