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Network vision & LTE rollout

BenChase7 said:
Yea, in Phoenix, Network Vision can't come soon enough. I hope it stays on track and they start this winter. I have noticed my phone no longer connects to the EVDO network, it now connects to eHRPD. So, hopefully that means they are on schedule for that winter start. Luckily, Alcatel Lucent is doing Phx, as they have been pretty solid in the other markets which Sprint has contracted them for Network Vision.
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That's only because the new phones operate that way. It's the hand-off switch for data. When you are running speed tests, you should always get eHRPD instead of EVDO unless you change your network mode to CDMA/EVDO only.
 
NYCHitman1 said:
That's only because the new phones operate that way. It's the hand-off switch for data. When you are running speed tests, you should always get eHRPD instead of EVDO unless you change your network mode to CDMA/EVDO only.
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True but, eHRPD takes a change in any market on Sprints end. I've had the EVO LTE since launch and eHRPD just went live here in Phx about 2 weeks ago.
 
lol...m outside where I first discovered I was getting lte connection and nothing... might try that prl trick that mentioned on xda
 
BenChase7 said:
True but, eHRPD takes a change in any market on Sprints end. I've had the EVO LTE since launch and eHRPD just went live here in Phx about 2 weeks ago.
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Correctamundo! That only means that something is brewing in Phoenix in regards to NV. Either way, I would be at least a tiny bit excited.
 
Rxpert83 said:
Wohoo MN getting some LTE love.

Been seeing reports of people getting signals
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PyroSporker said:
:O

Do share my good man, I hope the locale is near enough to me for some testing!
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I was only able to find old information with no details when you posted this the other week. I was starting to give up hope for this year and was expecting things to be slow or on hold until New Year because of the busy Holidays.
However, it seems like a few sites started lighting up late last week or this weekend around the the outer metro! Samsung must be starting on the boundaries and moving in towards the inner corridor (typical release pattern that makes complete sense).

A few users with the Sensorly Application have mapped some initial sites. Locations cross reference with some posts in the non-subscriber news/forum at S4GRU providing verification - Sprint.com forums as well :)
Sensorly.com | Coverage Maps 4G - USA - Sprint



(we can break this out into a new topic tagged [LTE] in Minneapolis if needed)
 
ok.. got rid of the EVO OG...
got the S3 LTE phone...

I live in Dallas Ft Worth area.. one of the first LTE cities for Sprint.
i am right off of 360 in the middle of the metroplex...
last night I had LTE .. and it was 3mbs (i could live with this)
today.. it is not even picking up any LTE signal.. but a few minutes here and there... it is downloading less than .5mbs


my buddy on Verizon and another on ATT .. gets 20+ MBs!!!!!



sorry for bitchin all the time about sprint.. but it is so frustrating...
 
dan330 said:
ok.. got rid of the EVO OG...
got the S3 LTE phone...

I live in Dallas Ft Worth area.. one of the first LTE cities for Sprint.
i am right off of 360 in the middle of the metroplex...
last night I had LTE .. and it was 3mbs (i could live with this)
today.. it is not even picking up any LTE signal.. but a few minutes here and there... it is downloading less than .5mbs


my buddy on Verizon and another on ATT .. gets 20+ MBs!!!!!



sorry for bitchin all the time about sprint.. but it is so frustrating...
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Well, just so you know - you won't be competing with your VZW/AT&T buddies on LTE speeds. Both companies are using 10x10 carriers, plus they operate on lower end frequencies. Sprint's LTE isn't being built out to blow people away with speed. It's purpose is to provide stability, which the aforementioned providers often have issues with. In any event, the coverage will expand on a week-to-week basis from what I have been reading.
 
NYCHitman1 said:
Well, just so you know - you won't be competing with your VZW/AT&T buddies on LTE speeds. Both companies are using 10x10 carriers, plus they operate on lower end frequencies. Sprint's LTE isn't being built out to blow people away with speed. It's purpose is to provide stability, ***which the aforementioned providers often have issues with***. In any event, the coverage will expand on a week-to-week basis from what I have been reading.
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*** Is this why they experience more outages?
 
NYCHitman1 said:
Well, just so you know - you won't be competing with your VZW/AT&T buddies on LTE speeds. Both companies are using 10x10 carriers, plus they operate on lower end frequencies. Sprint's LTE isn't being built out to blow people away with speed. It's purpose is to provide stability, which the aforementioned providers often have issues with. In any event, the coverage will expand on a week-to-week basis from what I have been reading.
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Well, if he's looking for around 20 mbps, that is doable on Sprint's LTE. I've gotten those speeds when outdoors in strong signal areas. What we won't see is 40 mbps, I figure.
 
NYCHitman1 said:
Well, just so you know - you won't be competing with your VZW/AT&T buddies on LTE speeds. Both companies are using 10x10 carriers, plus they operate on lower end frequencies. Sprint's LTE isn't being built out to blow people away with speed. It's purpose is to provide stability, which the aforementioned providers often have issues with. In any event, the coverage will expand on a week-to-week basis from what I have been reading.
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suprmallet said:
Well, if he's looking for around 20 mbps, that is doable on Sprint's LTE. I've gotten those speeds when outdoors in strong signal areas. What we won't see is 40 mbps, I figure.
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NOPE.. i am not wanting 20mbs speeds... it would be nice to have..
but as I said.. i would be ok with 3mbs... something usable... less than .5mbs is NOT (at times less than 100kbs)

last night at a bowling place... i got 9 MBS... yeah!!!
but i dont live or work there...
 
I don't expect Sprint's rollout to really kick in until the merger closes. Sprint doesn't have the cash to push this, and the merging company would be wise to allow Sprint to take on many more debt projects.

That said, I've always thought the compelling draw for Sprint would be "unlimited" as long as you accept that it will take time to catch up. LTE will be different than Wimax because it's not a competing technology.

I'm going to be losing my Wimax soon, but it's only going to be a small loss. Though I have Wimax where I use my phone most, I knew it was never going to grow. LTE will grow, and it's less expensive to grow long-term.

If Sprint delivers a solid LTE connection at even 70% of VZW and ATT speeds, it's a win.

Ironically, I always advise my family and friends to pick carriers then phones based on how they use it. Most people don't want to live the LTE life because it also has a heavy toll on battery. I just want it in the major metro areas where it's most useful.

Let's see a year from now after the merger just how much Sprint's position will be improved.

My only gripe with Sprint is they really shouldn't have a premium data charge for non-LTE markets. That would also give them some incentive to get more markets up faster.
 
Just thought I'd comment they have started lighting LTE up in Jacksonville, FL or at least the area around it. Saw my first peek of the signal the other day (although looks like I have to be in specific location to use it).
 
suprmallet said:
Well, if he's looking for around 20 mbps, that is doable on Sprint's LTE. I've gotten those speeds when outdoors in strong signal areas. What we won't see is 40 mbps, I figure.
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Doable when there's nobody actually using the network, sure. Once it fully rolls out in that market, the bandwidth will drop down. Users should be seeing speeds sitting between 6-10 mbps w/ great pings.

ScandaLeX said:
*** Is this why they experience more outages?
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Not necessarily, no. This is what makes their LTE superior to what Sprint is building out. Their outages are solely the product of overpopulation and poor backhaul.
 
NYCHitman1 said:
Well, just so you know - you won't be competing with your VZW/AT&T buddies on LTE speeds. Both companies are using 10x10 carriers, plus they operate on lower end frequencies. Sprint's LTE isn't being built out to blow people away with speed. It's purpose is to provide stability, which the aforementioned providers often have issues with. In any event, the coverage will expand on a week-to-week basis from what I have been reading.
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I got this while my cuz with vzw only got 8mb and my grandmother with att doesn't have lte until she gets on the green line train
 

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NYCHitman1 said:
Doable when there's nobody actually using the network, sure. Once it fully rolls out in that market, the bandwidth will drop down. Users should be seeing speeds sitting between 6-10 mbps w/ great pings.



Not necessarily, no. This is what makes their LTE superior to what Sprint is building out. Their outages are solely the product of overpopulation and poor backhaul.
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Not true at all the frequency sprint lte is is perfect and penetrates just like the 3g do which is great but triple the current 3g speeds sometimes more much cuz note 2 switches back and forth constantly in my room while my Gnex is still on lte. Plus att wish they had sprints lte coverage in Chicago
 
greenghost2212 said:
Not true at all the frequency sprint lte is is perfect and penetrates just like the 3g do which is great but triple the current 3g speeds sometimes more much cuz note 2 switches back and forth constantly in my room while my Gnex is still on lte. Plus att wish they had sprints lte coverage in Chicago
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Frequency doesn't have much to do with this, but Sprint isn't operating on their 800MHz spectrum yet. Once they are, we'll see similar penetration that AT&T + VZW customers experience.
 
NYCHitman1 said:
Frequency doesn't have much to do with this, but Sprint isn't operating on their 800MHz spectrum yet. Once they are, we'll see similar penetration that AT&T + VZW customers experience.
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that is true.. but i dont think any LTE phones current being sold has the 800mhz radio..

so.. to get that great penetration of the LTE 800mhz.. you have to get a new phone..
awesome.
 
dan330 said:
that is true.. but i dont think any LTE phones current being sold has the 800mhz radio..

so.. to get that great penetration of the LTE 800mhz.. you have to get a new phone..
awesome.
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I know the SGS3 has access to the 800MHz spectrum once it goes live. The EVO LTE probably does too.
 
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