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NYCHitman1 said:
Lol, I hope you can sleep through noise
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Well I am an early riser and a relatively late sleeper (like 1 or 2am) so hopefully the noise will be between them. lol I don't want to live in a very busy area with a lot of food traffic, so I want to stay away from touristy areas like around Times Square for example. I can deal with background noise like cars going by but dump trucks... hate them. lol

I currently deal with drunken college students walking by and yelling that they want to beat someone up or screw someone so I am used to that for the most part. lol

Another few questions:

How bad is the pickpocketing? Are you targeted less if they know that youre a local?

How bad are the summer months? I am used to high heat in LA but it's dry heat. I've only been to NYC in the summer once before but don't exactly remember how I felt. Am I going to have to run my air conditiOmer basically all night long?

Does the pollution bother you?
 
Vihzel said:
Thanks for your input! I've been told by several real estate agents that 1900/month is feasible for the UWS. All I'm looking for is a studio, definitely not a one bedroom. I will be apartment hunting the end of June/very early July for an Aug 1st apartment. I'm definitely not looking for the perfect apartment for that price, but if I need to increase the budget then Ill tell my dad. If I have to live in the UES or somewhere else on the east side of Manhattan then I'll do so. My dad really wants me to stay in Manhattan for the first year and I'd like to also. I'll probably move to Brooklyn or Queens after the year if I feel like I really need more space. Something that is extremely important for my parents is safety so anything Harlem is out of the question and Morningside Heights will be fine as long as it's below or right around Columbia. Basically, if my dad doesn't want to live there, then I'm not getting the apartment. I don't have as high standards as my father so really... the apartment has to impress him more than me or he won't let me live there.



I don't know how you do that. lol I believe I spend right around $10 per day give or take $2. I'll raise my food budget to $450 for groceries for NYC and perhaps $150 for eating out. Overestimating is better than underestimating.
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Harlem unsafe? :eek: You (and/or your parents) really need to explore NYC before making such broad and inaccurate statement. Harlem is no less safe than any other Manhattan neighborhood. There is more crime in Tribeca, Chelsea and the LES than in Harlem. You do realize the Morningside Heights/Manhattanville are sections of Harlem?
 
KENNECTED said:
Harlem unsafe? :eek: You (and/or your parents) really need to explore NYC before making such broad and inaccurate statement. Harlem is no less safe than any other Manhattan neighborhood. There is more crime in Tribeca, Chelsea and the LES than in Harlem. You do realize the Morningside Heights/Manhattanville are sections of Harlem?
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Vihzel said:
Well I am an early riser and a relatively late sleeper (like 1 or 2am) so hopefully the noise will be between them. lol I don't want to live in a very busy area with a lot of food traffic, so I want to stay away from touristy areas like around Times Square for example. I can deal with background noise like cars going by but dump trucks... hate them. lol

I currently deal with drunken college students walking by and yelling that they want to beat someone up or screw someone so I am used to that for the most part. lol

Another few questions:

How bad is the pickpocketing? Are you targeted less if they know that youre a local?

How bad are the summer months? I am used to high heat in LA but it's dry heat. I've only been to NYC in the summer once before but don't exactly remember how I felt. Am I going to have to run my air conditiOmer basically all night long?

Does the pollution bother you?
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Umm, you want to live in Manhattan yet it seems like you know nothing about it. It's called THE CITY THAT NEVER SLEEPS for a reason. If you've never lived here then honestly you won't know until you do. I don't know anyone that's been pickpocketed.. ever.. and we've all lived here our entire lives. I think you and your parents are picturing New York by it's stereotypes. It's one of the most populated cities in the world for a reason. LA is more of a shithole than NYC is (see how I did that? I've been there twice yet set a stereotype based on a small sample size visit). It is humid here in the summer and you might like to have an air conditioner on often, it depends on your level of comfort. Get used to riding the congested subway where ppl unintentionally fondle your man parts. It's the only cooling you're gonna get in the summer.

I'm just gonna LOL at the pollution question.
 
KENNECTED said:
Harlem unsafe? :eek: You (and/or your parents) really need to explore NYC before making such broad and inaccurate statement. Harlem is no less safe than any other Manhattan neighborhood. There is more crime in Tribeca, Chelsea and the LES than in Harlem. You do realize the Morningside Heights/Manhattanville are sections of Harlem?
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In terms of street numbers, I've always been told to avoid going above a certain number on the east side and another on the west side (forgot them at this moment). I just remember that above it goes into Harlem. I'll definitely take your advice though!... although my dad will not. I know that he will not allow me to live in Harlem simply due to the name and associated stigma from the rest of the country. From what I understand, there's even a negative stigma for people who live there from other New Yorkers who live below... at least that's what I've been told by real estate agents. Morningside Heights is different because Columbia is located there and right around Columbia would be the only area that my dad would allow me to live in. I already talked to him about it and he immediately said ONLY around Columbia or below it. If Columbia wasn't there, he wouldn't allow me to even consider it. I honestly wouldn't mind living in Morningside Heights but again... my father has to approve it. It would be incredibly difficult to convince him and my mother that living in Harlem will be fine.

Something that I'm also concerned with is if my fellow NYU students would want to come visit during the night hours. I wouldn't want to live in an area where they would not feel comfortable visiting, so that's why I limit to UWS and UES. It also helps to shorten the commute time. I'll definitely be looking at apartments in neighborhoods around NYU to see if I can find a suitable apartment.

NYCHitman1 said:
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Umm, you want to live in Manhattan yet it seems like you know nothing about it. It's called THE CITY THAT NEVER SLEEPS for a reason. If you've never lived here then honestly you won't know until you do. I don't know anyone that's been pickpocketed.. ever.. and we've all lived here our entire lives. I think you and your parents are picturing New York by it's stereotypes. It's one of the most populated cities in the world for a reason. LA is more of a shithole than NYC is (see how I did that? I've been there twice yet set a stereotype based on a small sample size visit). It is humid here in the summer and you might like to have an air conditioner on often, it depends on your level of comfort. Get used to riding the congested subway where ppl unintentionally fondle your man parts. It's the only cooling you're gonna get in the summer.

I'm just gonna LOL at the pollution question.
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I want to live in Manhattan because I'm going to study at NYU and will be working in the real estate industry. Isn't it obvious that I've never lived in Manhattan? I hardly know much about it... that's why I made this thread to know more about Manhattan. I'm sorry if it bothers you that I do have stereotypes about Manhattan because what else do I have to go by? Until I really learn what it's like to live there, I can only imagine. Like I learned today that Harlem isn't the same place that it used to be many years ago.

I feel like there's hostility towards me.
 
Vihzel said:
In terms of street numbers, I've always been told to avoid going above a certain number on the east side and another on the west side (forgot them at this moment). I just remember that above it goes into Harlem. I'll definitely take your advice though!... although my dad will not. I know that he will not allow me to live in Harlem simply due to the name and associated stigma from the rest of the country. From what I understand, there's even a negative stigma for people who live there from other New Yorkers who live below... at least that's what I've been told by real estate agents. Morningside Heights is different because Columbia is located there and right around Columbia would be the only area that my dad would allow me to live in. I already talked to him about it and he immediately said ONLY around Columbia or below it. If Columbia wasn't there, he wouldn't allow me to even consider it. I honestly wouldn't mind living in Morningside Heights but again... my father has to approve it. It would be incredibly difficult to convince him and my mother that living in Harlem will be fine.

Something that I'm also concerned with is if my fellow NYU students would want to come visit during the night hours. I wouldn't want to live in an area where they would not feel comfortable visiting, so that's why I limit to UWS and UES. It also helps to shorten the commute time. I'll definitely be looking at apartments in neighborhoods around NYU to see if I can find a suitable apartment.
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The real estate agent that wants your money. That's who you listen to? C'mon, this is just ridiculous. You're asking for NEW YORKERS opinions and taking what your father saw in 1979 as fact and what a real estate agent said. Sounds pretty darn stupid to me. I will tell you this right now, LA DEFINITELY has more crime than Harlem right now. Harlem was a huge heroin haven in the 60's and 70's. The worst shit you see out there right now is the Ricans hanging out in front of McDonald's after hours. There may be a robbery or two but nothing that stands out beyond normal. As I said, everywhere you go in the world there are bad places. It's up to you to decide if there is truth behind the (sometimes) false statements.

Vihzel said:
I want to live in Manhattan because I'm going to study at NYU and will be working in the real estate industry. Isn't it obvious that I've never lived in Manhattan? I hardly know much about it... that's why I made this thread to know more about Manhattan. I'm sorry if it bothers you that I do have stereotypes about Manhattan because what else do I have to go by? Until I really learn what it's like to live there, I can only imagine.

I feel like there's hostility towards me.
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I would say you are correct. We're getting hostile because you are clearly disrespecting our beloved city with hearsay. You asked us for our opinion and we gave it to you straight. Logically, it makes a lot more sense to listen to people who have lived here for years and years than to listen to two people that don't. I get that your parents care for your safety but you are no less safe here than you were wherever you came from.
 
I am a honky farm boy, surrounded by cornfields on 3 sides of my house. I walked 100 blocks through Harlem on Puerto Rico day. I was the only Caucasian for blocks. I was completely comfortable. People are people everywhere. If you go into a situation scared, a predator will sense it and jump on you for it. It doesn't matter where you are. Walk tall, you will be fine. Ny has some crazy stigma that is totally irrational.
 
NYCHitman1 said:
The real estate agent that wants your money. That's who you listen to? C'mon, this is just ridiculous. You're asking for NEW YORKERS opinions and taking what your father saw in 1979 as fact and what a real estate agent said. Sounds pretty darn stupid to me. I will tell you this right now, LA DEFINITELY has more crime than Harlem right now. Harlem was a huge heroin haven in the 60's and 70's. The worst shit you see out there right now is the Ricans hanging out in front of McDonald's after hours. There may be a robbery or two but nothing that stands out beyond normal. As I said, everywhere you go in the world there are bad places. It's up to you to decide if there is truth behind the (sometimes) false statements.

I would say you are correct. We're getting hostile because you are clearly disrespecting our beloved city with hearsay. You asked us for our opinion and we gave it to you straight. Logically, it makes a lot more sense to listen to people who have lived here for years and years than to listen to two people that don't. I get that your parents care for your safety but you are no less safe here than you were wherever you came from.
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I've actually only said to them that my budget is about $1800-$1900/month. They were the ones that didn't recommend Harlem for me because I told them that my parents 2nd most important this is safety, even though I can find an even better apartment for the same price. I haven't spoken with just 1, I've spoken with at least 7 different agents and I've been told the same thing... except for one agent who actually said Harlem was fine. Again, I now realize that Harlem isn't as bad of a place that others make it out to be.

I am not taking anything as factual from my father or real estate agents. I rely on your opinions, as well as KENNECTED's, as well as others, including real estate agents. Keep in mind that I've never been told to raise my monthly rent to be able to be in the UWS; I gave them my budget and that was that. Right when I said that safety is incredibly important to them, the vast majority of them recommend staying below certain streets. Again, I am fine now with living in certain parts of Harlem (I still see today that New Yorkers say it depends on which areas you live in Harlem on askanewyorker.com)

http://www.askanewyorker.com/phorum/read.php?34,40551

I didn't know that it was so clear that I was disrespecting your city, as I was shocked to see your accusation that I was clearly disrespecting your city. I am incredibly excited to move to Manhattan and did not mean any disrespect AT ALL. I NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER meant to disrespect one of the greatest cities in the world, along with Paris, London, Tokyo, etc. Although... Boston sucks. :p Thank you gallandof!

Quick question: What do you mean by LA? Strictly the city itself? The metro area? Compton (good heavens)? I don't live directly in LA as I live in a suburb in the valley, which I would say is like very similar to Park Slope (from what I've read about descriptions of Park Slope). I would definitely agree with you that there is a lot of crime in the city of LA itself. That's why no one in my family lives in areas with high crime rates.
 
NYC is a big city. You're gonna have crime in any big city.

I haven't been to NYC since the late 80s-early-90s. It was kind of a hell hole then. Not gonna lie. That was my impression of it anyway. I would not mind going back to visit though.
 
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