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Root nons3ns3 v2.0

scotty85

scotty85

Extreme Android User
ive been on the same rom for almost 2 weeks now,gotta be some kind of new record for me :D

testing the new amon recovery has kept me occupied for awhile,but im getting the itch to flash something,soo...

not in the mood for sense,yet its maybe time for a lil break from AOSP,so i flashed this:
[Rom] [Tho3ryRom] [2.11 GB BASE] NonS3ns3 V2.0 (HTC KERNEL MOD) (09/06/2011) - xda-developers

been awhile since ive run a desensed rom,so per the covnersation we had in i forget what thread,i plan to set it up just like i do m AOSP roms,and see if there is any noticble difference in speed,battery life,etc.

anyone else running it?
 
This guy is a sick SOB. One of the reason I stopped using his ROMs is his childish "taking my ball and leaving" nonsense (see what I did there ;))

If you're looking for something new Liquid released 3.0 and it's awesome so far. Forgot how quick his builds are, probably quicker than teen theory's, lol. It's a 68mb ROM btw :eek:
 
I could give a a crap about his drama. His roms work well on my phone... So far its smooth and fast. I just miss my transparent aosp mms, dialer, and contacts. I really hate the sense apps. :mad:

Lol I also hate that despite being desensed its 3 times the size :eek: maybe Ill try liquid 7 again after this
 
I really don't care either, I just think it's incredibly annoying. I've never been a big fan of his, though. Plus his "tweaks" wreaked havoc on my phone. I usually don't say I'll never run a ROM again, but I can safely say that with his.

edit: liquid 86'd the Liquid settings in the menu and now has an app which includes other features that CM doesn't have. I'm glad he got rid of the menu settings. Way too much like CM, this feels like his own now
 
It is nice to have flash and my verizon with no funky workarounds.

I'm also allready missing my transparent power control widget with a 3/4g toggle.
 
WormDoes said:
I really don't care either, I just think it's incredibly annoying. I've never been a big fan of his, though. Plus his "tweaks" wreaked havoc on my phone. I usually don't say I'll never run a ROM again, but I can safely say that with his.

edit: liquid 86'd the Liquid settings in the menu and now has an app which includes other features that CM doesn't have. I'm glad he got rid of the menu settings. Way too much like CM, this feels like his own now
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I like this, too. I set up his settings to pop up on the home double tap. His settings are very well laid out, and really, are a big part of what makes a liquid rom a liquid rom. Plus his girlie is a pretty damed good graphics person--his menus make the stock cm menus look like something from an early color feature phone.
 
scotty85 said:
3/4g toggle.
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This may be THE most practical real life impact thing CM7 has added to the phone. The standard wireless settings are a mishmash. There should quite simply be a toggle for each radio, period. It is probably just how the RIL works--they just list the modes the RIL allows instead of abstracting them to simple toggles.
 
WormDoes said:
I really don't care either, I just think it's incredibly annoying. I've never been a big fan of his, though. Plus his "tweaks" wreaked havoc on my phone. I usually don't say I'll never run a ROM again, but I can safely say that with his.
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What tweaks? I haven't noticed any issues.

WormDoes said:
edit: liquid 86'd the Liquid settings in the menu and now has an app which includes other features that CM doesn't have. I'm glad he got rid of the menu settings. Way too much like CM, this feels like his own now
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I am glad to hear this. He had a Liquid settings app back when I ran his OG Droid roms, I missed it when it was in the menu like CM settings are.
 
Looks like he took the new leak, installed root explorer, started deleting things, threw a different launcher on and called it something new.

Thread even says it's the same as Cleantheory with some Sense stuff removed.

Didn't we have BAMF Stripped months ago?
 
Ibrick said:
Looks like he took the new leak, installed root explorer, started deleting things, threw a different launcher on and called it something new.
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its a little more than that. its got 3.0 camera and lockscreen,advanced power menu,a tweaked kernel,and some other things if you read thru the details.

also thot id point out that tho this is a "th3ory rom" its not by DT... its by someone named xpack90. at least thats my impressions since he thanks chingy and DT first thing. cant say for sure wether he desensed cleanth3ory,or if he started from scratch and used some DT tweeks.

i just wanted to run a senseless rom for a day or 2 with the same launcher,etc. that i run in an AOSP rom and see if i could feel any real,non-placebo differences. ;)

FWIW,ive run the stock leaks,and this and clean th3ory both run better than that ;)

edit: link for liquid 3.0? did some quick searching and all i see on rootz and xda are liquid thunderbread 2.6. i dont see 3.0 on his website either :confused:
 
scotty85 said:
its a little more than that. its got 3.0 camera and lockscreen,advanced power menu,a tweaked kernel,and some other things if you read thru the details.

also thot id point out that tho this is a "th3ory rom" its not by DT... its by someone named xpack90. at least thats my impressions since he thanks chingy and DT first thing. cant say for sure wether he desensed cleanth3ory,or if he started from scratch and used some DT tweeks
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In the thread he mentioned its cleantheory de-sensed.

I guess the names are getting a little overwhelming, and after shifttheory gave me so many issues trying to get it to run smoothly I'm a little bitter.. :p
 
scotty85 said:
What issues did you have? Shift aosp is Still my all time favorite I think... Works great for me.
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I was running 2.1 which started out great, and then was just not at all smooth. Had some FC's and just general lagginess at times. Probably tried 5 different kernel's trying to get it as smooth as I like. That's just the one thing I'm very anal about with ROM's.
 
I had the same as brick, but I also had problems with apps in the market and them "not being compatible", gmail would stop notifying at times and I'd have to reboot and a few other small things. Even when switching to CM I noticed some of the same issues carrying over so I decided to do a full wipe and so far things have been smooth on Liquid.
 
DT broke the market several times, and patched it, etc. I bet there were lingering effects. He did it trying to get gtalk video to work without using the installer. I think using the installer is a better option, in hindsight.
 
WormDoes said:
I had the same as brick, but I also had problems with apps in the market and them "not being compatible", gmail would stop notifying at times and I'd have to reboot and a few other small things. Even when switching to CM I noticed some of the same issues carrying over so I decided to do a full wipe and so far things have been smooth on Liquid.
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Yeah, the market thing too..

That was an easy fix, still annoying though. In the build prop he had the model as SHIFTAO5P which obviously doesn't exist, so I changed that and didn't have anymore market issues. Who would have thought making up a phone model name would cause market issues.. :rolleyes:

Don't get cute, just call it the Thunderbolt, Mecha, ADR6400L, whatever..
 
Yeah I know about the market issues, sometimes you will get issues with non-compatible apps due to your screen density too. I think there is still a link in the screen density thread to a market fixed by ziggy not to check for the screen density. On liquid 3.0 my phone shows up as a Verizon HTC HTC Thunderbolt it was a BLACKA05P or something before.
 
senseless th3ory actually works pretty good. just a touch laggy at times,but overall pretty smooth,tho it doesnt feel as snappy as aosp. its cool having my verizon back,but i miss the other stuff too much,lol...

my original intent was to go back to cm7 after this,but yall have convinced my to try out liquid. about to falsh it now :)
 
not as good. i only got about 7 hours,with a bit less bluetooth voice calls than normal. i typically get 8 hours on aosp with at least 2-3 hours of voice bluetooth calls.

when running fully sensed stock roms,i typically get about 5 with the same useage :eek:
 
Yeah I know stock is bad, I wasn't sure if the desensed roms would be better because even tho it has sense framework it has most the bloat removed.
 
yeah it was defiantely better than stock. he claims to have cut the framework in half :eek: i wonder to what extent you can desense your own rom by deleting things with titanium? im not sure how much is interwoven to the point that it needs to be modified or removed at a programming level,lol. i used to always go thru and delete a crap ton of stuff,wich seemed to help.

setting it up with the same launcehr and homescreens it looked about the same,but definately felt a lil different,even assuming you dont care about the mising cm tweeks and all the freekin white screens ;) i personally cant stand sense mms,keyboard,and contacts. the email app im not so fond of either. i used to kind of like the gb pulldown,but now im used to aosp again,im not so fond of that.

biggest reason to do it is if you need stuff like my verizon to work,and it was nice for flash to work with no hacks or workarounds.
 
scotty85 said:
yeah it was defiantely better than stock. he claims to have cut the framework in half :eek: i wonder to what extent you can desense your own rom by deleting things with titanium? im not sure how much is interwoven to the point that it needs to be modified or removed at a programming level,lol. i used to always go thru and delete a crap ton of stuff,wich seemed to help.

setting it up with the same launcehr and homescreens it looked about the same,but definately felt a lil different,even assuming you dont care about the mising cm tweeks and all the freekin white screens ;) i personally cant stand sense mms,keyboard,and contacts. the email app im not so fond of either. i used to kind of like the gb pulldown,but now im used to aosp again,im not so fond of that.

biggest reason to do it is if you need stuff like my verizon to work,and it was nice for flash to work with no hacks or workarounds.
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I think McLabia has a write up somewhere on doing your own desensing. He uses GoLauncher with synergyrom.
 
I'm trying to remember BAMF Stripped, which the last version was as small as you could get. Even cut apps that people would have to install after flashing, and that was like 180mb or so.

I think they kept the dialer and the rest was essential framework.
 
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