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Note 4 owners: will you upgrade to Galaxy Note 5?

I am sticking with the still great Note 4, since do not see the net value in the Note 5 due to losing the sd, fixed battery and crack magnet design. If a device has a battery big enough to not need a charge later in the day- I am okay though with a fixed battery.

Moto X Pure has a lot going for it as a total and (if carriers sold it) would be more appealing to most consumers compared to the Note 5- Mainly due to several hundred $ less and still great features. The killer though could be the fixed 3000mah battery. Same as the note 5, but not the same display tech. A warning flag to me is Moto touting that the Moto X Pure has the fastest charging in the world. That seems like crutch talk for the battery life is weak. Need reviews to say otherwise :)

Then again, if carriers sold it, the price would be higher since would have to follow the lead of carrier device pricing. Motorola seems to be testing if this sales model will work better. It would seem Yes if carriers drop subsidies AND Motorola made an effort to market the device so most consumers know it exists. Have my doubts with this, just as much as battery life.

Especially after the layoffs.
 
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The answer is no.
I hate to say it but the new note 5 just has the same design as galaxy s6 which copied apple surprisingly.
The fact that you cannot expand your storage using a external sd card is very bugging as well. Samsung is taking away this amazing feature from one of its most brilliant galaxy series. Its very dissappointing.
One more important thing is that Its using Samsungs exynos chipset which is way below qulacomm snapdragon.
 
As Europe is not supposed to be getting the Note 5, may I respectfully advise Samsung to stick said device up it's corporate botty. I will stick with N4 till it turns up it's toes. :D
 
One more important thing is that Its using Samsungs exynos chipset which is way below qulacomm snapdragon.
Not necessarily so, I have a N910G (snapdragon) and an N910K (exynos). The N910K operates smoother across the board, while the N910G stutters occasionally.
 
I hope to get my 5 tomorrow from Best Buy. Just waiting for their email.

I'm seeing some positive comments from various well known phone reviewers regarding the 5. Concerns over the battery may be premature. And, it appears the 5 specs do include a number of enhancements over the 4.
Stay tuned and get in line.
 
I have note 3. I will not buy future notes if micro SD card slot is gone and no user replaceable battery. I will look for a different phablet.
 
I have a Note 4 and will definitely be getting a 5. I don't use a SD card, I use Drive, OneDrive, etc..... and never swap batteries, I charge the phone when it needs it.

What will all the removable battery/SD card people do when NO PHONE offers those features??
 
I have a Note 4 and will definitely be getting a 5. I don't use a SD card, I use Drive, OneDrive, etc..... and never swap batteries, I charge the phone when it needs it.

What will all the removable battery/SD card people do when NO PHONE offers those features??
What we will do when all phone manufacturers force their will on us is join the rest of the flock and meekly take what they deem we deserve, not only is it convenient to carry a small slim battery round instead of a charger for those times when the installed battery gives out it has, in my experience over many years of owning a mobile phone, sometimes been necessary to pull the battery to correct a fault, a quick search will show many documented cases of this, we will in the bleak future be able to pay someone to fix the phone instead. Also has anyone given any thought to this "wonderful?" cloud storage idea, after all SD cards have been eradicated from phones how long will it be before the cloud storage companies see this as a great form of income. I just love progress!! Phil
 
What we will do when all phone manufacturers force their will on us is join the rest of the flock and meekly take what they deem we deserve, not only is it convenient to carry a small slim battery round instead of a charger for those times when the installed battery gives out it has, in my experience over many years of owning a mobile phone, sometimes been necessary to pull the battery to correct a fault, a quick search will show many documented cases of this, we will in the bleak future be able to pay someone to fix the phone instead. Also has anyone given any thought to this "wonderful?" cloud storage idea, after all SD cards have been eradicated from phones how long will it be before the cloud storage companies see this as a great form of income. I just love progress!! Phil

Phil, you apparently do not understand basic supply and demand. The manufacturers don't produce products based on what they think you deserve or do not deserve. They produce products with the highest demand. Less people care about removable batteries and SD cards so there is less incentive to produce phones with those features.
 
Phil, you apparently do not understand basic supply and demand. The manufacturers don't produce products based on what they think you deserve or do not deserve. They produce products with the highest demand. Less people care about removable batteries and SD cards so there is less incentive to produce phones with those features.
There's also the repeated mistake throughout history by manufacturers that establish a hegemony thinking that they can dictate market terms and marginalize a market segment less out of demand and more out of desires to increase profitability thinking that the market will have to follow them.

HTC may never recover from the One X mistake of nonremovable batteries and no sd cards. And because of demand, they brought the sd card back two years later.

LG was meaningless until they made a Nexus and despite the quality and small market for the high-quality, follow-on G2, their growth didn't explode until the G3 with a removable battery and sd card.

It may be true that fewer people prefer those features but that was the same argument that HTC misused in their calamitous decision.

64-bit processing is new to Android. What are the power demands of that and the next update for it?

Android 6.0 Marshmallow is going to finally bring app installation to sd cards, done properly, with full security and full support without root - an Android first. How much storage do you need today, and is there an economical path to relief if you are not sure?

It's easy to say that fewer people care about the missing hardware features but it's probably more accurate to say that a significant number of people don't know what they're going to need for the future just based on those two new factors alone - and then add in the group that has been brand loyal specifically because of those features and that adds up to a rather large entry on the plus side of the incentive equation.
 
it appears to me that samsung is looking at the 14 % apple market share with envy and trying desperately to draw in the apple fan base, which by the way ain't gonna happen. i think they need to focus on the 80+% of android users that don't have an iphone by choice. features and choice is what built android. taking away features and choice goes totally against androids philosophy.
 
Yes! In fact, I picked it up earlier today. The Note 5 is amazing! I used to use the SD card but no matter which brand I bought it would always malfunction eventually. I stopped using it in my Note 4 a couple months ago and didn't miss it. I stream my music and use the cloud for my pics and vids. The Note 5 came out just in time as my Note 4 was starting to stutter opening apps. This phone is an upgrade in my opinion.
 
Phil, you apparently do not understand basic supply and demand. The manufacturers don't produce products based on what they think you deserve or do not deserve. They produce products with the highest demand. Less people care about removable batteries and SD cards so there is less incentive to produce phones with those features.
Oh I fully understand the laws of supply and demand, the phone companies supply what the bean counters demand, I still stand by my statement that once all SD cards have been done away with that you will see charges creeping in for the cloud services, then everyone will be shouting for the return of SD cards. Phil
 
I'm basically saying what many are. I have a 3 and was desperately waiting for the 5. But now... Already researching what other company to look to for a new phone,. Take away the removable battery?? WTF... I learned my lesson with non-removable batteries going south in 10 months making a phone obsolete. Let alone the fact I carry several charged batteries just in case. AND, then the SD card? Bad enough the root issue. But, Samsung lost my money now. May just grab a Note 4 and wait. But, Samsung is certainly losing me.
 
Phil, you apparently do not understand basic supply and demand. The manufacturers don't produce products based on what they think you deserve or do not deserve. They produce products with the highest demand. Less people care about removable batteries and SD cards so there is less incentive to produce phones with those features.

I'm sure enough people know what an SD is...especially on this forum.... "HELP!!!! I bought an SD on the internet, moved all my photos, videos and MP3s to it, and they won't play or show."
...i.e. they've bought a counterfeit SD, which are actually very common.

For some people, take the SD slot away, it's eliminated a problem actually.

And then go and buy a Samsung Note 5 online from China, to try and save a few bucks, and discover that's a knock-off as well.....but I digress.
 
I'm sure enough people know what an SD is...especially on this forum.... "HELP!!!! I bought an SD on the internet, moved all my photos, videos and MP3s to it, and they won't play or show."
...i.e. they've a counterfeit, which are actually very common.

For some people, take the SD slot away, it's eliminated a problem actually.
No one questioned if people know what an SD card is. O.o
 
32-64 gig phone and I'd be fine with no SD I think . Non removable batteries are the biggest deal breaker for myself.
 
Just hopping into this thread after a hiatus from my Note 3 fact finding here on this forum during pre-orders. I recognize a few veterans (Samsung Diehards) here from the HTC Droid pre-order days.

My buying pattern is not as religious since I have skipped every other SG issue only to boast having no problems or disappointments during each of my device ownerships. I consider myself a Samsung loyalist. My phone requirements are not as drastic as some of you, but I do like having bonus features just in case I plan to use them. For my basic need it has always been 'size matters' and of course, a good battery life. I've never had a problem with storage capacity be it internal or external SD card - it has always been more than adequate. Like one user noted, I too utilized clouds since their inception. Sporting a Note 3 has been fine so far for me and may continue to be a Guiness book of records for me as far as going beyond two years of a brand model.

In reading all the posts, I can see the angst many of you are displaying with the N5 shortcomings and so-called stripping of desires. But, one needs to grasp reality and look into the crystal ball. 'Cellphone Apocalypse' has begun!

With the recent shift in Carrier business models which no longer cater to Manufacturer exclusivity and phone subsidy, the Carriers have now cut the cord to force Cellphone giants to duke it out on their own. Carriers are shifting focus to GB's of data and price structure to rape our bank accounts. It was apparent with the advent of the 'Cloud' that they would now have a new cash cow because of data transfer. IMO, the Cloud was a key factor of getting rid of the unlimited data plans and using it as the new carrot on a string in the way of upload/download usage. Remember, they did this way back when with text messaging which was a goldmine for them.

Where does that leave the Cellphone Manufacturer? Figuring out how to be profitable again without the luxury of boning the Carriers with exclusivity agreements and guaranteed volume orders while leaving them with new phones in inventory because the Giants began coming out with a new model every 6 months to a year.

The stripping of phone features is not a surprise as profitability forges toward the mainstream user (which many of you are NOT). Let's get real! The MicroSD is going by the wayside as did the CD tray on desktop/laptop computers. Phone obsolescence and 'The Cloud' is what the Manufacturers wants to focus on because it's going to provide frequent upgrading and a monthly income through cloud storage subscription, ergo, nix the batteries & MicroSD cards. Cash flow is better than selling the product itself. Take printers for instance, the printer bears little profit, it's the ink that brings home the bacon. In the future, we may be more likely to choose a Carrier who offers the best DATA package and Phone Manufacturer that gives us the best CLOUD subscription package.

Phone prices will drop dramatically because they will no longer be marketable at high cost when peddling directly to the thrifty consumer. Case in point is the Moto X Pure Edition at $399. For now they will hook everyone with a removable battery and MicroSD but once they got you on board they will likely drop those features like the others are doing. Motorola may be playing a strategic move here and it could be the jawdropper that puts them back on the map. I remember when HTC rattled the world with their Droid which was my 1st ever pre-order. What is making me boil right now is that Motorola can offer what appears to be a high tech device for around $300 less than what I've been paying for my last two outright purchases (to keep my Verizon Unlimited plan). It just goes to show how much extra we've all been duped into paying one way or another through Carriers. What will make me laugh is that Apphole is going to squirm when all of the Giants start following suit to fight the low cost cellphone war. Even the no-name Chinese brands like Huawei will gain recognition along with others as they are all based on Android operating systems. Time to get the popcorn out and see what Apphole does to maintain their price dictatorship.

@chief, I too will be passing on this N5 as my N3 still roars like a Lion and I see no true upgrade this time around. Like yourself, I too will stop being a Samsung loyalist and be closely looking into the Moto X Pure Edition. I remember having a small Motorola flip phone with Tracfone provider and that damn thing picked up better signal than anyone elses phones available through the various Carriers, therefore, I'm not apprehensive about going over to their camp again while saving a boatload of $$$'s. I may be visiting their forum as well soon. Last one to leave the Samsung Forum - don't forget to turn off the light.
 
Okay, I went into Best Buy, just to see the Note 5 in person. I absolutely love the form factor. It feels significantly better and easier to hold than the Note 3 and Note 4, IMO. Had they made the Note 4 closer to this, as far as physical dimensions, I definitely would've upgraded last year. That said, I still won't be getting the Note 5. Best of luck to all of you that do upgrade and enjoy.
 
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